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Posted: 9/3/2002 12:26:09 PM EDT
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Good riddance, he's a creapy little gun grabber. Not that I'm voting for McCall either-blech
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Posted: 9/3/2002 12:30:55 PM EDT
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Personally, I think McCall is a "better" person than Pataki, and McCall hasn't had a chance for 8 years now to lie his ass off to we NY'ers, I might be swayed into giving him a chance (he can't force worse laws on us than we already have) and Pataki hasn't done anything to loosen them.
I am coming dangerously close to voting out the scummy republicans who keep promising to protect our constitution, then ignoring us until the next election cycle. Better I believe to turn the heat up quickly, as opposed to this gradual increase... |
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Posted: 9/3/2002 12:30:59 PM EDT
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I wonder if he's quietly being "groomed" for bigger and better things, and a loss in his State's Governor race wouldn't look good in his future resume.
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Posted: 9/3/2002 12:45:15 PM EDT
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I htink (more likey) he is known as sort of a rabid dog, and is unelectable.
20% difference between he and McCall, thats not insignificant. Has he ever held elected office? OR has he always rode in on the appointments? |
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Posted: 9/3/2002 12:56:37 PM EDT
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I really feel for all you members who live in New York, Massachusetts, Illinois, and California. You guys have got the world's scummiest politicos.
Now down here in Georgia, most of our politicians are crooks----but at least they're pro gun ownership crooks[;D] Well, I hope y'all keep up the good fight, but if you get tired of the battle, c'mon down here to Georgia[:D] |
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Posted: 9/3/2002 1:10:11 PM EDT
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Quoted: Personally, I think McCall is a "better" person than Pataki, and McCall hasn't had a chance for 8 years now to lie his ass off to we NY'ers, I might be swayed into giving him a chance (he can't force worse laws on us than we already have) and Pataki hasn't done anything to loosen them. I am coming dangerously close to voting out the scummy republicans who keep promising to protect our constitution, then ignoring us until the next election cycle. Better I believe to turn the heat up quickly, as opposed to this gradual increase... |
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Posted: 9/3/2002 1:12:56 PM EDT
[#7]
Exactly Aimless, that is where I am now at, voting wise.
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Posted: 9/3/2002 1:16:36 PM EDT
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Andy Cuomo is a creepy, arrogant, little beotch.
He was the architect behind the S&W "agreement." |
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Posted: 9/3/2002 1:17:43 PM EDT
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Good riddance! Pataki's useless but you can't be serious about voting for McCall.
"On Friday, the Clintons were at the State Fair in Syracuse at the same time as Cuomo. The trio didn't even manage a photograph together. On Monday, Sen. Clinton had McCall marching by her side in the West Indian American Day parade in New York City." We don't need another democRAT governor in NY. |
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Posted: 9/3/2002 1:21:40 PM EDT
[#10]
This is too funny. Cuomo's TV commercials are still running after he stepped down.
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Posted: 9/3/2002 1:42:45 PM EDT
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This is good news...Good riddance to the Cuomo "legacy"...Now, if we can just get the rest of the Metro area to vote out Schumer and the Carpetbagger....[puke]
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Posted: 9/3/2002 1:43:16 PM EDT
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Quoted: Good riddance! Pataki's useless but you can't be serious about voting for McCall. "On Friday, the Clintons were at the State Fair in Syracuse at the same time as Cuomo. The trio didn't even manage a photograph together. On Monday, Sen. Clinton had McCall marching by her side in the West Indian American Day parade in New York City." We don't need another democRAT governor in NY. Tell me how Pataki has helped the Gunowners of NYS? I can tell you how he has hurt them, no difference between McCall and Pataki, other thna I beleive McCall to be more of a man of his word. |
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Posted: 9/3/2002 2:42:49 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Personally, I think McCall is a "better" person than Pataki, and McCall hasn't had a chance for 8 years now to lie his ass off to we NY'ers, I might be swayed into giving him a chance (he can't force worse laws on us than we already have) and Pataki hasn't done anything to loosen them. I am coming dangerously close to voting out the scummy republicans who keep promising to protect our constitution, then ignoring us until the next election cycle. Better I believe to turn the heat up quickly, as opposed to this gradual increase... Exactly! We have a RHINO here, Chafee, that we need to get rid of.[puke] |
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Posted: 9/3/2002 2:46:12 PM EDT
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It is truly a shame for New York to lose a chance to have for a Govenor my good friend Andrew Cuomo. He had done so much good in HUD, and he could have done so much for New York. It is truly sad.
Bill C. [smoke] |
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Posted: 9/3/2002 2:49:47 PM EDT
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I am as conservative as any member of this board, I am as pro-gun as each and every one of you and I get just as frustrated when Republican politicians do not take a hard enough line on gun rights. However, as a political consultant, I can tell you what the political viability and shelf-life of an ardent pro-gunner in NY politics is for statewide office..... ZERO, F'ING ZERO.
So complain all you want, the fact is our imperfect Governor is a hell of a lot better than Hillary and her crowd. If they ahd their way NYS would go the way of DC and there would be NO ownership of firearms. So you go ahead and believe that McCall is no greater threat, maybe we can cry over our beers together if he gets elected and there is no more gun ownership in NY. |
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Posted: 9/3/2002 4:35:24 PM EDT
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Quoted: I am as conservative as any member of this board, I am as pro-gun as each and every one of you and I get just as frustrated when Republican politicians do not take a hard enough line on gun rights. However, as a political consultant, I can tell you what the political viability and shelf-life of an ardent pro-gunner in NY politics is for statewide office..... ZERO, F'ING ZERO. So complain all you want, the fact is our imperfect Governor is a hell of a lot better than Hillary and her crowd. If they ahd their way NYS would go the way of DC and there would be NO ownership of firearms. So you go ahead and believe that McCall is no greater threat, maybe we can cry over our beers together if he gets elected and there is no more gun ownership in NY. Hiram, we are allowed long guns, shotguns, and with special permits that aren't good everywhere in the state we are allowed pistols. No SBR, No FA, No Silenced weapons, tell me what would the difference really be? Sure, they could make it even more difficult to own a firearm, but the laws here are about as bad as they can get already, I don't see any democrat or republican being able to make them much worse. I would actually look forward to them trying to ban all firearms outright, it would bring things to a head, who knows how it would turn out, I sure don't. |
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Posted: 9/3/2002 5:51:22 PM EDT
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Quoted: Tell me how Pataki has helped the Gunowners of NYS? I can tell you how he has hurt them, no difference between McCall and Pataki, other thna I beleive McCall to be more of a man of his word. Just the thought of the Clinton's and McCall campaigning together should be enough to make you puke never mind vote for McCall. Pataki is the lesser of two evils. Keep in mind the winning Gov usually helps elect assemblymen and senators on his coattails. We don't need no more stinkin' democRATS in the legislature. And yes, it could get a whole lot worse for gun owner’s in NY. |
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Posted: 9/3/2002 5:57:24 PM EDT
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Quoted: It is truly a shame for New York to lose a chance to have for a Govenor my good friend Andrew Cuomo. He had done so much good in HUD, and he could have done so much for New York. It is truly sad. Bill C. [smoke] Thanks, Slick Willy. Your opinion is always welcome here. [:D] |
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Posted: 9/3/2002 6:01:28 PM EDT
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Quoted: This is good news...Good riddance to the Cuomo "legacy"...Now, if we can just get the rest of the Metro area to vote out Schumer and the Carpetbagger....[puke] Amen to that brother! |
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Posted: 9/3/2002 6:07:28 PM EDT
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Quoted: one of my buddy's said the other day that some of the rural republican counties ought to help throw out some of the Republicans. They don't do jack for us because we are a "Given" it's the counties in NY that could swing either way that get pork barrel stuff and other goodies to sway them. Why do anything for your faithful sheep like Republicans when they will vote for you no matter what? Careful about cutting your nose off to spite your face. You could end up with no nose or face. [:D] |
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Posted: 9/3/2002 6:29:52 PM EDT
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Let me know when you upstate fuckers have finally had enough and decide to secede from that city that has been dragging you all down for the past century or so. I'll come up and give you a helping hand.
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Posted: 9/3/2002 9:09:30 PM EDT
[#22]
good ridance
are there any progun people running? |
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Posted: 9/4/2002 8:51:13 AM EDT
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Tom Golisano, a self made (B?)illionaire from Rochester, NY, is running (again) as an independent, conservative candidate. He has taken Elmer Pataki to task for caving in to the gungrabbers, among other things. Will he win? Not a chance. Will he take votes away from Elmer? At least one[:D] Will it help McCall? Who cares? He and Pataki are of the same ilk.
There is no way in hell back-stabbing Screw-Me-Elmo will get my vote, or any other stinkin' "moderate" Republican. Keep in mind that Cuomo the Elder was unable to pass any gun control legislation. Only with Pataki's guidance was such crap voted in. Hiram, how can you sleep at night trying to help re-elect that rat-phuck, Pataki? |
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Posted: 9/4/2002 5:59:28 PM EDT
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I sleep pretty well at night. If you knew the things I knew about the other candidates you'd be sick. I can't disclose that information because I learned while in State employment and therefore am bound by secrecy provisions that include huge ass fines and possible imprisonment. Let me just say, your dog isn't all you think he is. He's leveled false accusations against the Governor and the State knowing we can not respond because we are upholding the law. If that is your kind of candidate, you are free to vote for him, the beauty of America.
What does it tell you that he invokes the name of John McCain to get elected only to be publicly rebuked by McCain? How do I sleep at night, I think of the half million new jobs created under Pataki, the $100 billion in tax cuts, his leadership in the wake of September 11. He ain't perfect, I disagree with him on the gun issue, but he's my guy. |
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Posted: 9/4/2002 6:16:57 PM EDT
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The only issue I care about is the gun issue, if he ain't for me, he is against me.
If he is against me, he is the enemy. |
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