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Posted: 12/28/2012 5:05:40 PM EDT

There is no way they would have the manpower or money to do this
I just don't see it happening

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:06:40 PM EDT

[#1]

touted as a way to create jobs

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:07:08 PM EDT

[#2]

not that many ar's

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:08:57 PM EDT

[#3]

Made up number is made up and lets not be in a rush to help them brainstorm the fuck?

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:11:03 PM EDT

[#4]

That would be one hell of a dive team.

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:12:03 PM EDT

[#5]

No problem. That's what NFA fees are for. Might have to raise them a "tiny" bit.

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:13:17 PM EDT

[#6]

400 million? Where did you get that number?

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:14:30 PM EDT

[#7]

There are estimates of about 310 million total privately owned firearms... I think that may be low.

There's really only a few million ars

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:15:13 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
touted as a way to create jobs

My bet also for the Kenyan's bonus plan for the AFGE.

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:16:37 PM EDT

[#9]

What's an AR? Arkansas?

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:17:02 PM EDT

[#10]

I have an SBR on the books... as far as I am concerned that is the only weapon I own, since I'm on the hook for it

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:17:03 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
400 million? Where did you get that number?

Even if you knock two zeros off ... ???? still a big problem.

Think of the NFA tax monies my young democrats.

To answer the OP, it would take forever.

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:17:15 PM EDT

[#12]

Poorly.

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:18:42 PM EDT

[#13]

Ask Canada how that worked out for them.

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:18:50 PM EDT

[#14]

I recall reading (somewhere) an estimate of 2.4M ARs.

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:18:52 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
Poorly.

As well as the Canadian system worked, only with less compliance (if that is possible)

edited to add : NZ got rid of it's universal registration system after a mass shooting.

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:19:10 PM EDT

[#16]

Don't know, but you know they'll cash the checks as soon as they got them.

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:27:43 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
I recall reading (somewhere) an estimate of 2.4M ARs.

Thought that was what Colt alone has sold to the civilian market.

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:28:07 PM EDT

[#18]

Actually the OP has a valid point. It takes what 6-8 months right now to get a stamp when you are lucky. And that's with maybe a couple thousand NFA items going through at any given time, tops. Now if all of a sudden 50 million semi autos over night become NFA items requiring a stamp wait times would take decades even if they were to quadruple the number of processors. This is for an item already in possession, a new law deeming a felony for not having a stamp...does not compute. Not going to happen. That part of a ban is DOA if nothing else because of logistics.

And even if they went full retard and did it anyway, I'm sure the SC would be willing to hear the case ASAP with people possibly waiting years to keep their property they already possess. They could pass a lot of bullshit, but making 50 million guns NFA ain't gonna happen.

This too is why we insist on a all or nothing vote.

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:31:33 PM EDT

[#19]

Not just AR15s. Virtually all semi-automatic rifles and most handguns according to Swinestein's proposal. Easily a couple hundred million firearms affected (potentially).

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:33:43 PM EDT

[#20]

the better question is what retard would actually register their guns. I would not.

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:36:06 PM EDT

[#21]

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:37:26 PM EDT

[#22]

Contract it out through a fee-based program. Very, very little hiring and it can more than pay for itself.

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:38:43 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:

I have an SBR on the books... as far as I am concerned that is the only weapon I own, since I'm on the hook for it

Anything on a 4473 is eventually going to be retained forever by the ATF.

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:40:45 PM EDT

[#24]

I agree, there is no way there is that many AR's. One need only look at the serial number on recently purchased lowers. For example, I just bought a Mega forged lower that is just over 11,000 - and it is all numeric. The one I purchase a year ago was in the high 7,000's. I would venture to guess between 12-13,000 forged lowers have been produced by Mega alone. I realize there are dozens of companies that have their roll mark on AR lowers, but if any of them (aside from the high volume manufacturers like Colt, DPMS, Bushmaster, and Rock River) have produced more than a hundred thousand since the end of the 1994 ban, I would be suprised. The high volume companies may have produced around a million, Colt more than the others. Although I have no way of telling how many have been produced, I would venture to guess it is somewhere around 25 million. Just my guess based on the estimated number of guns in circulation. AR's really haven't been a big seller until 2004.

I agree there are at least a couple hundred million guns that would need to be registered if Feinstein's law passed as proposed. There is no way it could be done. The ATF would be backlogged for decades trying to register that many.

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:41:58 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:

I recall reading (somewhere) an estimate of 2.4M ARs.

Thought that was what Colt alone has sold to the civilian market.

Here's one estimate: 2.5-3.7 million AR-15s in civilian use in the United States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:42:51 PM EDT

[#26]

Fuck they can't get a supressor or SBR done in six months it would take forever.

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:43:14 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
Ask Canada how that worked out for them.

IIRC about a 15% compliance rate and 20 billion later they gave up.

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:43:30 PM EDT

[#28]

Fucking endless speculation on this, that, or the other about bans, registrations, confiscations ad nauseum on this site. It is like many of you want something to happen. Thought creates. Gun owners are the most negatively polarized, defeatist bunch of poor me whiners I have witnessed.

Just fucking STOP.

Is there a moderation staff here that realizes how negative all of this SHIT is? At the least make ONE post where all of the defeated can go to speculate on their doom.

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:44:15 PM EDT

[#29]

OP, did you buy 396 million EBR's?

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:44:50 PM EDT

[#30]

If you've ever actually submitted a Form 1 or 4 you would know that adding ANY additional weapons to the registry would be disasterous.

Let's not even get into the issues of 5320.20's if you live in a free state bordered by other free states.

The registry would need to be of similar size and scale as the IRS. I'm sure the .gov would love it but it won't happen.

Lock this down.

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:46:54 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:
the better question is what retard would actually register their guns. I would not.

^^^ What is with all the law whoreshipping ?

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:49:19 PM EDT

[#32]

Here's a fact. There are somewhere around 200,000 registered machine guns and we know for a fact the registry is a cluster fuck now. Add in MILLIONS of semi auto rifles and holy shit. Huge massive cluster fuck.

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:51:37 PM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:
There is no way they would have the manpower or money to do this
I just don't see it happening

Sure they can. Waiting 6-9 months for a transfer now would seem like waiting a day. It would take them years to do a transfer. Years.

3 day waiting period? Ha! Try a three year wait.

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:56:34 PM EDT

[#34]

Look at just the estimates they ended up with in ny where there supposedly aren't many guns...

They were looking at something like 2 million.

nationwide that could easily translate to 50 million

Everything I own would be on that list and my collection is quite modest compared to some here

Posted: 12/28/2012 6:35:12 PM EDT

[#35]

According to the NSSF there were approximately 30 million ARs in private hands in the US back in 2009. An estimate of 40 million today doesn’t seem out of line.

Don’t forget that Marxist wants to register all guns anyway, SO … yeah, fuck her.

Posted: 12/28/2012 6:45:51 PM EDT

[#36]

http://i.imgur.com/0ZLye.jpg

Most of us before and then after the ban

kidding. maybe.

Posted: 12/28/2012 6:49:01 PM EDT

[#37]

well, there aren't 400 million ar's in the US. I would be surpirsed if there were 40 million.

Posted: 12/28/2012 6:57:05 PM EDT

[#38]

Obama's brownshirts would help.

Posted: 12/28/2012 7:09:21 PM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:

Obama's brownshirts would help.

They better go to some huah fucking schools first.

Posted: 12/28/2012 7:14:28 PM EDT

[#40]

They wont

Posted: 12/28/2012 7:15:43 PM EDT

[#41]

Quoted:

400 million? Where did you get that number?

Posted: 12/28/2012 7:15:46 PM EDT

[#42]

This is a no brainer - hire 9 more people. I'm sick of stupid questions.

Posted: 12/28/2012 7:15:47 PM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Obama's brownshirts would help.

They better go to some huah fucking schools first.

Posted: 12/28/2012 7:16:24 PM EDT

[#44]

Negative.

Posted: 12/28/2012 7:16:42 PM EDT

[#45]

Well I damn sure wouldn't be one of those registering.....

Posted: 12/28/2012 7:20:23 PM EDT

[#46]

Quoted:
I recall reading (somewhere) an estimate of 2.4M ARs.

2.4M -2

Posted: 12/28/2012 7:22:27 PM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:
well, there aren't 400 million ar's in the US. I would be surpirsed if there were 40 million.

I woildn't have trouble believeing 40 million Ar's and the number of everything proposed to be banned under that treasonist feinstein bill at 80 or so million.

Posted: 12/28/2012 8:35:48 PM EDT

[#48]

only 4 million will get registered the rest of people will say fuck off. Like the number of guns that were turned in in Britain vs the number of guns that weren't.

Posted: 12/28/2012 8:49:22 PM EDT

[#49]

Barrry will hire mitt Romney to head the effort.

Romney will hire site staff and the jort crew to get it done.

Posted: 12/28/2012 8:53:03 PM EDT

[#50]

I liked the 400 million number much better.

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