I was duped into a tag team scam today

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Posted: 12/28/2012 4:04:15 PM EDT

EDIT: This is his TGT account

First question, is it against arfcom rules to post the screen caps from my phone, including phone number? Name of the scammer?

Anyway, I posted a VEPR12 for a gouge price of $1850 with 5 mags (2 5-rd Molot, 2 12-rd SGM & 1 8-rd Izzy). I didn't want to sell it, but could use the cash. Within minutes a local guy claims it "I'll take it".

Some texts and we agree to meet in the morning. We meet but he has $1200 and tries to talk me into it. I walk and he later calls me with a sob story, and I agree to $1500. He gets the shotty for $1200, and his buddy buys the mags for $300. I wondered if it was legit, but most people don't give out their phone number. And I guess I am a trusting fool.

Within minutes of selling him the shotty and driving off, while waiting for his buddy to text me back, his buddy texts offering $175 for the mags. Right then I knew I was tag teamed. He tried to bs his way out, and later someone from the same phone is asking WTF these texts are about.

It seems the buyer used someone elses phone.

So yeah the gun is his; I sold it. I know there is no legal recourse, but wanted to share my stupidity.

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:06:27 PM EDT

[#1]

Sorry man.

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:07:35 PM EDT

[#2]

probably a prohibited buyer on top of it

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:07:55 PM EDT

[#3]

Cash talks, BS walks. Sorry bro.

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:07:58 PM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
probably a prohibited buyer on top of it

He had a CHL.

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:09:11 PM EDT

[#5]

I would of told him to eat shit and die. Live and learn i suppose.

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:09:35 PM EDT

[#6]

lol

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:10:07 PM EDT

[#7]

-1 the Motherfornicator..... If he can't go about it honestly, then fuhgeddabowdit! That's friggin' BS just to save a couple hundred bucks.

Shoulda told him to buy the the lot and sell the mags to his bud himself.

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:10:15 PM EDT

[#8]

Trust no one.

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:11:02 PM EDT

[#9]

Where did you post the WTS at?

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:11:41 PM EDT

[#10]

Name drop on that fool.

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:11:53 PM EDT

[#11]

He's a member of this board?

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:12:01 PM EDT

[#12]

I don't think you were scammed, just lied to. Next time tell the guy he can work out whatever deal he wants to with his buddy, but you're selling your shit for $1500. No $1500? No shit. Lesson learned, move on.

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:13:01 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:

I would of told him to eat shit and die. Live and learn i suppose.

Yep; if someone agrees to meet me and then doesn't have all the cash, I have absolutely no compunction about telling him to go fuck himself.

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:13:12 PM EDT

[#14]

It was Texas gun trader. He is a member here from the conversation but I don't know his S/N.

I wouldn't say scammed if he hadn't used someone elses phone to fool me.

And yes I realize I am a moron. Lesson learned.

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:16:00 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:

Cash talks, BS walks. Sorry bro.

THIS

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:16:57 PM EDT

[#16]

Like you guys wouldn't pull the same shit and pat yourself in the back for being so bright.

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:17:58 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
Like you guys wouldn't pull the same shit and pat yourself in the back for being so bright.

It never crossed my mind.

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:18:54 PM EDT

[#18]

Is it against arfcom rules to post names, phone numbers or the screen caps from the texts?

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:19:18 PM EDT

[#19]

Why wasn't the mag buyer there too? I wouldn't have gave up the gun without the mag deal going on at the same time.

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:19:37 PM EDT

[#20]

Cue Red Forman pic

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:19:59 PM EDT

[#21]

You CANNOT post people's real info, but their user names on forums is OK.

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:20:40 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
Like you guys wouldn't pull the same shit and pat yourself in the back for being so bright.

Sarcasm I hope.

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:22:05 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Like you guys wouldn't pull the same shit and pat yourself in the back for being so bright.

Sarcasm I hope.

Uh yeah

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:22:14 PM EDT

[#24]

So you sold a VEPR 12 for $1200.

I wouldn't let anyone know I was that dumb.

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:22:31 PM EDT

[#25]

Was this done over the EE?

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:23:21 PM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:

-1 the Motherfornicator..... If he can't go about it honestly, then fuhgeddabowdit! That's friggin' BS just to save a couple hundred bucks.
Shoulda told him to buy the the lot and sell the mags to his bud himself.

This is the way. I had a guy try to do something similar with a rifle/scope combo. Tried to get me to take the scope off and his buddy would come by later. Nothing doing, buy the rifle as is and he can sell his buddy the scope or show up together. They did not get either and i sold it on a board and made $300 more than I was asking locally and had 2 more buyers lined up to if the first deal fell through. I made money on the rifle but apparently I was undervaluing it. (rem 700 ti mountain)

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:23:21 PM EDT

[#27]

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:24:58 PM EDT

[#28]

You were robbed....fill out stolen rifle report at local police station.

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:26:05 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Like you guys wouldn't pull the same shit and pat yourself in the back for being so bright.

Sarcasm I hope.

Uh yeah

You never know these days.

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:27:49 PM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:
You were robbed....fill out stolen rifle report at local police station.

Yep

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:29:23 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You were robbed....fill out stolen rifle report at local police station.

Yep

Posted: 12/28/2012 4:31:35 PM EDT

[#32]

At least you can still sell the mags for $1000 on ebay.

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:40:11 PM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:
You were robbed....fill out stolen rifle report at local police station.

+1

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:44:02 PM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:

It was Texas gun trader. He is a member here from the conversation but I don't know his S/N.

I wouldn't say scammed if he hadn't used someone elses phone to fool me.

And yes I realize I am a moron. Lesson learned.

Yep. Cash in hand for the deal. No cash or short cash... no deal.

Posted: 12/28/2012 5:48:02 PM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:
Like you guys wouldn't pull the same shit and pat yourself in the back for being so bright.

I ain't smart enough to think up ways to scam people.

Posted: 12/28/2012 6:19:59 PM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:
Like you guys wouldn't pull the same shit and pat yourself in the back for being so bright.

Nah, principles aside, karma is a bitch.

Posted: 12/28/2012 6:23:06 PM EDT

[#37]

Posted: 12/28/2012 6:26:42 PM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:
First question, is it against arfcom rules to post the screen caps from my phone, including phone number? Name of the scammer?

Anyway, I posted a VEPR12 for a gouge price of $1850 with 5 mags (2 5-rd Molot, 2 12-rd SGM & 1 8-rd Izzy). I didn't want to sell it, but could use the cash. Within minutes a local guy claims it "I'll take it".

Some texts and we agree to meet in the morning. We meet but he has $1200

.

The deal would have ended right there for me.

Posted: 12/28/2012 6:26:56 PM EDT

[#39]

Live and learn.

Posted: 12/28/2012 6:27:35 PM EDT

[#40]

i dont see how you were scammed here

you willingly sold your weapon for 1200 and you still have your mags, right?

other than under-pricing the weapon, I see no problem

Posted: 12/28/2012 6:28:43 PM EDT

[#41]

I expected something totally different based off the title

That sucks though, OP

Posted: 12/28/2012 6:29:32 PM EDT

[#42]

Yeah definitely wouldn't be so trusting

Posted: 12/28/2012 6:32:15 PM EDT

[#43]

this is why i post a price i am willing to take and wont take one dollar less. Sob story or not. No money no deal.

Posted: 12/28/2012 6:43:16 PM EDT

[#44]

He agreed to a price, and at the F2F tried to pull the "this is all the money I have" scam?

Walk away. He's a dipshit, and interacting with him at any level is just going to waste your time.

Posted: 12/28/2012 6:51:32 PM EDT

[#45]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Like you guys wouldn't pull the same shit and pat yourself in the back for being so bright.

I ain't smart enough to think up ways to scam people.

No. Me either. But I'm smart enough to see one being pulled on me

Posted: 12/28/2012 6:55:10 PM EDT

[#46]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You were robbed....fill out stolen rifle report at local police station.

Yep

Nope. They will tell you it is a civil matter.

Posted: 12/28/2012 7:01:14 PM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:

i dont see how you were scammed here

you willingly sold your weapon for 1200 and you still have your mags, right?

other than under-pricing the weapon, I see no problem

This is what i was thinking, or am i reading something wrong in the story?