Come on people!

This is not the "moderators and staff against the members" episode of the Jerry Springer Show!

The only reason mods and staff generously give of their time to the site, is to help keep the place running smoothly.

I grant you that sometimes it has the opposite effect than the one desired,but it is not by design.

We are not,as some say,on some power trip to show our capability to "wipe you from the face of the site" ......so you fear us.

I personally,and I know I speak for the many other staff and mods,take pride in how many of the  members I have a cordial and even friendship relationship on the board.....rather than boast how many "fear" me.

We all have REAL jobs,like most of you.We all have families,problems,pet peeves,biases,bad hair days,etc.
We don't try to solve our frustrations by banning anyone,or censoring what you write.
When we do it,it is SOLELY in [b]what we think [/b] is in the best interest of the group!

Of course that judgement call is where we do not all agree....but that is how everything is in life.

Yes,we know rules are not always applied evenly.But it is not because of favoritism.
Everyone of us does not have the same sensitivity to issues.We can interpret the rules different,or may be too strict on enforcing them....but we all try to do our best in the job we have accepted to perform here.

Sometimes we succeed and sometimes we fail.We are not infallible, and do not want or pretend to be omnipotent in the site.

So please,give us a bit of your understanding when we "do not see eye to eye" on an issue.Please, reason with us instead of "fight" us when you think we are mistaken in something.

[b]This is your site.[/b]
It will be what you put into it.

[b]Hold civil discussions just about anything- including race issues- and it should be fine.
Make derogatory comments, generalized statements and "throw mud around" and someone will have to clean up the mess.[/b]

Thank you,

You, GB, and the mods are doing a great job. Things get a little sideways sometimes, but as a whole this is my favorite website.

BTW could we have a new forum "jerry springer" where anything goes?[:D]

Just kidding.

Have a good day[:D]

Well, said, Sir.  Mind if I tack this for the day?  If not, just undo.  Thanks.

BTW, it reflects my attitude exactly, so thanks for saving me the typing!  [:D]

Ed,

I fear you....

Just trying to give your ego a boost [:D]

mike

Mike,an ego is something only young people can afford to have.

By the time you get to be an old dog like me there isn't much left....including an ego.

You have to "let go my eggo" [:)]

Well at least you are not part of this mess.

It proves my faith in you might pay off after all.

Nah,I am not holding my breath,just hoping! [:)]

[b]Sgtar15,[/b]
Stop highjacking my thread and start your own JSpringer episode on kitten parenting. [:)]

BOG will be another member of the pannel!

Good post EdAvilaSr. I didn't even know there was a issue about this untill last night. Personally I think this site is the finest on the net, and we are lucky to have such a place to get together. There are some very good people behind it like the Avilas, and they do a great job providing these forums for us to use, so we should show a little respect and keep it clean because even though it's a forum open to the public, we need to remember that it is privately owned. GoatBoy and Co puts a lot of thier personal time into making this site as cool as it is and I am grateful to be a part of it. We are very diverse but we all have a common goal, to restore the second ammendment so let's keep that in mind and stop the BS threads. Trolls will always be an unfortunate side effect of any website, and they should be dealt with accordingly. The mods have a tough job, any judgement call is tough, and they often get labeled power hungry or worse, but some one has to take out the trash and that is not always popular. I could never be a mod because I don't have time to raed the garbage posts, I would be more like a Nazi-Mod, so be glad that we have a group of fair mods here.

I've been reading them, just don't want to jump on
board attacking the mod's. They are here to help in most cases.

Plus some of them are my friends!!!

I guess as long as I can still post pro Israeli
threads and anti Islam threads I'm cool with it.

Im sure your relieved to know I'm cool with it.[BD]

I expect to hear "who gives a shit what your cool with Legs" soon.[V]

[b][/b]

 Correct!! You sure can read my mind.[:D][:D][;D]

But can you read my mind ?
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I think some of us overreacted on that thread.

As I said before I did not get in until I saw what I thought was out of line (not by you BTW)and that poster and I emailed each other and are cool.

As to your comment on BOG:
I hear you loud and clear,but I am past the stage of giving a damn about him anymore.

There is a time to talk and a time to act.

Are you asking me indirectly if you can tag along with Green furniture and me? [;)]

[b]

As I saw it, here was the evolution of complaints:
1: "This site is becoming too PC" and "The racism that has been seen here has no place here".  Is it too PC, or too racist around here?  Why the huge chasm between the extremes of opinion?  
2: Moderator "over-eagerness".  This is merely a reaction to the PC/racism issues, and doesn't appear to be the primary concern.

Maybe we can start a racial dialogue on this site.  What occurred on this site regarding racial issues is indicative of the racial issues that face America.  Like the influence on this site, the racial issues are dividing America.  I don't pretend to understand those that demand reparations and demand that the Confederate Battle Flag be stricken from public consciousness.  I do understand the proponents of reparations are quite persistant and militant, and that they want to penalize white people for something that was not done by those they penalize.

But - I have seen it many times - there is a segment of the population that will join a cause not because they agree with the cause, but simply to spite those who are the political targets of the cause.  The Anti-White Reverse Apartheid actions in Zimbabwe are a prime example.  I do not have to explain, if you have been reading the last hundred Zimbabwe threads LOL.

So it is on this site.  I have seen people make racist statements and give the reason that they wanted to be make a statement against the pervasive PC atmosphere.

And for what reason?  If the racist statements had a scientific reason behind them, I - and the rest of the people who disagree with racism - could have a starting point to attempt to understand them.  But it is in the name of being "un-pc".  It all seems so pointless to me.
And the "you can't tell [i]me[/i] what to do!" crowd aren't offering any explanations.

Again, the moderators are reactionary, just like real police are.  They are not the primary problem.  

Well said CAMPYBOB, I think you hit it right on with that statement.

I fear your angry rampaging flying stealth pig.

I don't know what the etiquette is on this, but as long as I tacked this, I guess it's my place to untack it, now that things have calmed a bit.  As always, EdSr, thank you, Sir for your gentlemanly guidance.  You never cease to amaze me.  [:)]

As I sit here I am looking at a bottle (empty)that EdSr. gave me at the BRC.  I am not a beer drinker, but I drank that one with him.  The bottle makes a nice momento.  [beer]