what do you think?

i'm listening to last nights art bell show right now

there's a guy yacking about all sorts of "secret weapons" he claims the usa is going to bust out in iraq soon

so what do you think, are we going to see anything new?

remember the giant anti-crowd microwave gun from a while ago? i wonder if that could be used.

[:D][img]http://www.cybersalt.org/cleanlaugh/images/q-t/secretweapon.jpg[/img]

damn, thats funny

i'm picking cheetos, powdered sugar, root beer, and pop rocks out of my keyboard

That's hilarious, SgtKiwi!  One for the scrap books...

Here's a similar story:

[b]Super-secret microwave weapons may be used in Iraq[/b]
[url=http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/82658_micro15.shtml] Seattle Post-Intelligencer[/url]
8/15/02

By George Edmondson, Cox News Service

WASHINGTON -- An army may still travel on its stomach, but a vital point of attack these days is the brain -- the electronic brain.

With modern warfare so dependent on computers and communications devices, a weapon that renders them useless could be invaluable. And after decades of research, U.S. scientists and engineers may be close to fielding an effective technology known as high-powered microwave weapons.

At least, that is the latest buzz. Recent articles have speculated microwave weapons could be deployed if the United States invades Iraq. But some experts -- including Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld -- say considerable work remains.

"It's been this elegant promise for decades that never quite seems to happen," said John Alexander, author of "Future War: Non-Lethal Weapons in Twenty-First Century Warfare" and a retired Army colonel who directed non-lethal weapons development at Los Alamos National Laboratory. "The check's always in the mail."

The concept behind high-powered microwave weapons is simple. A burst of electromagnetic energy is created and directed at an enemy's electronics. The force burns them out much like a lightning strike can destroy home appliances.

Challenges, though, lie in a number of areas, according to several experts.

For example, delivering the weapons would likely be done by cruise missiles or unmanned aerial vehicles to help get close to the target. That requires making the weapons not only high powered, but also rugged and relatively small, which Air Force Col. Eileen Walling labeled "extremely challenging and technically difficult" in a paper she wrote in 2000 on the weapons.

Alexander explained another problem: unpredictability, even when everything goes right.

"Electrical components are really rather tricky," he said. "You can put the same amount of energy into 10 identical targets and you can destroy two of them, upset five of them and, in three of them, nothing happens."

High-powered microwave weapons are one component of a broader category known as directed energy weapons that includes lasers.

"When people are talking about high-powered microwave weapons, they're not talking about a single device like the stealth bomber," said John Pike, director of globalsecurity.org, a Washington-area policy organization seeking to reduce reliance on nuclear weapons. "Rather, they're talking about a physical principle and an effect which can be generated a number of different ways for a number of different purposes."

Most of the Defense Department's work on high-powered microwave weapons takes place at Kirtland Air Force Base in Albuquerque, N.M..

"We are looking at different sources and devices that can produce that microwave energy and propel it," said Rich Garcia, a spokesman for the project where nearly all of the work is classified.

Researchers also are exploring ways to block incoming high-powered microwave weapons. That will require something of a super surge protector, experts point out, because the blasts are so intense and brief they can escape detection.

The former Soviet Union once was deeply involved in exploring high-powered microwave weapons, but it is now thought Russia is no longer pursuing them. Other nations believed to be conducting research are China, Great Britain and France.

Earlier this month, the widely respected magazine Aviation Week & Space Technology printed an article stating that "an attack on Iraq is expected to see the first use of high-power microwave weapons..."

The New York Post, citing unnamed U.S. military officials, reported yesterday that a preliminary Iraq battle plan "outlined for President Bush last week calls for the most extensive use of electronic and psychological warfare in history -- including secret new electromagnetic pulse weapons to disable Saddam (Hussein)'s entire command and control structure."

Imagine that! Using new and updated technology to fight a war! Who'd of thought it?  And I thought we'd just march in, in formation, and fire volleys!  If we don't use every bit of advantage, technologically or otherwise to win the war, then something is seriously fucked up.
And yes, I was there for round one of the Iraq war, as well as the training session (AKA Panama)[flame]

They might do some testing of the remote controlled fighter planes in Iraq (like they've been doing in Afghanistan with Predators).

I believe they're talking about HAARP (sp?).

US DoD push for laser, microwave weapons --Jane's Aug 2002
[URL]http://www.janes.com/defence/air_forces/news/jdw/jdw020809_1_n.shtml[/URL]

Anti-gravity propulsion comes ‘out of the closet’ --Jane's, Feb 2002:
'The GRASP paper focuses on Podkletnov’s claims that his high-power experiments, using a device called an ‘impulse gravity generator’, are capable of producing a beam of ‘gravity-like’ energy that can exert an instantaneous force of 1,000g on any object — enough, in principle, to vaporise it, especially if the object is moving at high speed.'
[URL]http://www.janes.com/transport/news/jdw/jdw020729_1_n.shtml[/URL]


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Interesting - especially the anit-gravity article.

Thirteen days from authorization to delivery in Desert Storm:

[url]http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/gbu-28.htm[/url]

Being designed for use specifically against NBC targets, such as are rumored to be in Iraq:

[url]http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/mmc.htm[/url]




Scott

... Oh man, if you only knew!

The neatest "less lethal" weapon has to be the "guns" the Marines have for crowd control. The ones that shoot out the sticky stuff and tangle people up.....

Scott

For those pesky deep bunkers:

[url]http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/dshtw.htm[/url]

Mini-cruise missile for anti-tank use:

[url]http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/locaas.htm[/url]

Another new weapon:

[url]http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/frsw.htm[/url]

Another:

[url]http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/arrmd.htm[/url]

HyStrike:

[url]http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/hystrike.htm[/url]

For NBC targets:

[url]http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/adw.htm[/url]

Expect some cool battlefield video:

[url]http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/mdbda.htm[/url]

Guided CBUs:

[url]http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/wcmd.htm[/url]
Scott

Scalar weapons?

[url]http://216.247.92.101/pub/bearden/iraq.htm[/url]