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Posted: 11/21/2012 5:49:37 PM EDT
So, my dad handed me this bayonet today. And my first thought, being that it was probably my grandfathers, was that it was a M1 Garand bayonet. Then I got to thinkingg, he wasn't in the Army in WWII. He was a Navel Officer at that time. And, sadly, I don't own a M1 Garand to put it on. So I decided to use my google-fu, and see what I have. Well, it doesn't appear to belong to a Garand. Which brings me to my question. What rifle does this bayonet belong too?
here are some pics: 
(Nmbers on the hilt are BA2072. I can not make out the word on the blade. Something, R, E, S, Something, Something) 
(Lettering on the sheath appear to be A.C.T. 1915. Sheath is leather, with brass at both ends.) What Bayonet do I have? |
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Posted: 11/21/2012 5:51:13 PM EDT
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German K98 Rifle Bayo?
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Posted: 11/21/2012 5:54:29 PM EDT
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German K98 Rifle Bayo? No, the attachment hardware is all wrong for that. |
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Posted: 11/21/2012 5:55:04 PM EDT
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Not from a K98 or 1903.
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Posted: 11/21/2012 5:55:08 PM EDT
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German K98 Rifle Bayo? i thought about that too. and the 1903 as well. but google images indicated no. seems it needs to be twisted on to the bayo lug. |
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Posted: 11/21/2012 5:56:58 PM EDT
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Italian Carcano TS Bayonet.
http://imageevent.com/willyp/firearmsalbums/italianww11891carcanotscarbine?p=0&n=1&m=-1&c=4&l=0&w=4&s=0&z=9 http://imageevent.com/willyp/firearmsalbums/italianww11891carcanotscarbine?p=7&n=1&m=-1&c=4&l=0&w=4&s=0&z=9 http://www.cruffler.com/historic-december01.html Scroll down to "Model 1891 for Special Troops (Moschetto Modello 91 per Truppe Speciali)" 
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Posted: 11/21/2012 5:58:15 PM EDT
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Ross rifle maybe?
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Posted: 11/21/2012 5:58:59 PM EDT
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Not K98, not Garand or '03; European?
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Posted: 11/21/2012 5:59:45 PM EDT
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Italian Carcano Bayonet. http://imageevent.com/willyp/firearmsalbums/italianww11891carcanotscarbine?p=0&n=1&m=-1&c=4&l=0&w=4&s=0&z=9 holy crap. would have never thought of that. i wonder if there is one somewhere in that house? hhmmmmm....... closing on it next week...... |
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Posted: 11/21/2012 6:00:14 PM EDT
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Italian 1891 Mannlicher Bayonet.
http://worldbayonets.com/Bayonet_Identification_Guide/Italy/italy_2.html |
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Posted: 11/21/2012 6:00:34 PM EDT
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Italian 1891 Caracano
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Posted: 11/21/2012 6:03:10 PM EDT
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It's for an Italian Carcano. The 1891 TS (truppi speciali) Not the long 91 or the 1938 TS like Oswald used.
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Posted: 11/21/2012 6:09:14 PM EDT
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just got off the phone with my dad. gramps did not own any rifles. ever. he was strictly a bird gun guy. oh well....
i also learned that i have several swords and sabers headed my way. 
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Posted: 11/21/2012 6:11:16 PM EDT
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Well, you'll have to buy something to mount it on then!
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Posted: 11/21/2012 6:13:21 PM EDT
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Well, you'll have to buy something to mount it on then! Here, let me help.
http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=1891+carcano |
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Posted: 11/21/2012 6:13:22 PM EDT
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Well, you'll have to buy something to mount it on then!
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Posted: 11/21/2012 6:14:16 PM EDT
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German K98 Rifle Bayo? Negative, not even close. Carcano bayo. |
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Posted: 11/21/2012 6:15:06 PM EDT
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The pointy end goes in the bad guy
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Posted: 11/21/2012 6:15:29 PM EDT
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You have got to love this place.
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Posted: 11/21/2012 6:18:38 PM EDT
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Well, you'll have to buy something to mount it on then! Here, let me help.
http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=1891+carcano i don't see any that would take this bayonet. 
i do see, however, that the bayonet could catch me $200. but i won't sell family heirlooms. |
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Posted: 11/21/2012 6:18:53 PM EDT
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I don't believe it's German, American, French, British, Austrian. The quillon and the rifle mount are the two real stumpers. Prior to ww1, many countries did have a long quillon on the bayonet, but it was curved. Hooked. During and after, the quillon was shortened significantly to just a nub. In some cases, older designs had the long quillons ground down. The only other bayonets I can find in the ww1 timeframe with a long, straight quillon are Italian bayonets. Can't find an exact match for that style of mounting though.
ETA- should've reloaded.
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Posted: 11/21/2012 6:19:47 PM EDT
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You have got to love this place. a rare and redeeming quality to GD. |
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Posted: 11/21/2012 6:20:51 PM EDT
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I do not know what it is for but it looks really cool.
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Posted: 11/21/2012 7:08:40 PM EDT
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Quoted: Italian Carcano TS Bayonet. http://imageevent.com/willyp/firearmsalbums/italianww11891carcanotscarbine?p=0&n=1&m=-1&c=4&l=0&w=4&s=0&z=9 http://imageevent.com/willyp/firearmsalbums/italianww11891carcanotscarbine?p=7&n=1&m=-1&c=4&l=0&w=4&s=0&z=9 http://www.cruffler.com/historic-december01.html Scroll down to "Model 1891 for Special Troops (Moschetto Modello 91 per Truppe Speciali)" http://www.cruffler.com/Carcano91TSBayonet.jpg http://www.cruffler.com/Carcano91TSBayonetLockGroove.jpg Good find |
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