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Posted: 10/12/2012 7:00:21 AM EDT
•Address Gun Violence in Cities: Obama and Biden would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent.
http://change.gov/agenda/urbanpolicy_agenda/ DAT MOTHERFUCKER! |
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Old news for the past 4 years, but thanks for reminding us anyhow.
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Old news for the past 4 years, but thanks for reminding us anyhow. It's been down off their website for the 4 years too... Weird that it is back up. |
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Its not going to happen if obama wins a second term I have no doubt it will happen. |
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Its not going to happen if obama wins a second term I have no doubt it will happen. EXACTLY. This was on their website for about 6 weeks after he took office and he was catching so much shit about it that they removed it. Odd that right before the election it is back live. Mark my words boys. THEY ARE COMING FOR OUR GUNS |
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simply ask WHAT is this "gun show loophole"? Do you have the Tune In app for your phone? Search for Gun Talk and listen to the latest one. They talk about it in full detail. |
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If you thought something seemed way off with all of the Buckyballs magnets ban BS, there were definite mentions that this type of "expanded power" by the CPSC could be used to target all types of unpopular items - guns among them. I seem to recall it mentioned as possibly a trial run to get all of the legalities out of the way and establish precedent on a seemingly trivial item.
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Quoted: Quoted: Old news for the past 4 years, but thanks for reminding us anyhow. It's been down off their website for the 4 years too... Weird that it is back up. It was on his campaign website throughout the campaign last time around, and then moved to the official administration "policy priorities" pages where it stayed verbatim for a long time after he was elected. I didn't know it had ever come down, but it certainly wasn't down for 4 years... |
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If you thought something seemed way off with all of the Buckyballs magnets ban BS, there were definite mentions that this type of "expanded power" by the CPSC could be used to target all types of unpopular items - guns among them. I seem to recall it mentioned as possibly a trial run to get all of the legalities out of the way and establish precedent on a seemingly trivial item. They wouldn't even try. The courts would rip them to shreds, especially after the Heller and McDonald rulings. |
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simply ask WHAT is this "gun show loophole"? You know the one that allows you to buy fa/mgs, hand grenades, rpg's, and the like at dirt cheap prices........ Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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As long as he does not get control of both houses I doubt you will see any bans.
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As long as he does not get control of both houses I doubt you will see any bans. Yes |
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simply ask WHAT is this "gun show loophole"? You know the one that allows you to buy fa/mgs, hand grenades, rpg's, and the like at dirt cheap prices........ Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile this is exactly what I'm getting at. Its amazing how uniformed/blatantly ignorant the left is towards Gun Shows. EVERYONE still has to the proper background check paperwork. Really, the only advantage of a gun show over a gun store is a wider selection, at POSSIBLY slightly lower prices. |
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I didn't know it had ever come down, but it certainly wasn't down for 4 years... I don't know man.... according to a lot of people in the know.... It was taken down from this website about 6 weeks after Obummer took office. |
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Quoted: Its not going to happen Yeah, oblamacare won't ever happen! |
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Quoted: simply ask WHAT is this "gun show loophole"? No more private sales is the aim. Want to buy or sell a firearm? 4473. |
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Its not going to happen Yeah, oblamacare won't ever happen! Amen! |
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Another VERY GOOD REASON for all of us to get off our asses and vote for Romney.
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Its not going to happen if obama wins a second term I have no doubt it will happen. This It's not like we didn't know this already, they're just not hiding it anymore |
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Obama had four years to take away our guns, he proved that he's not after our guns.
Who knows what Romney will do if elected? Hmmmmm..... Just saying. |
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Quoted: Quoted: If you thought something seemed way off with all of the Buckyballs magnets ban BS, there were definite mentions that this type of "expanded power" by the CPSC could be used to target all types of unpopular items - guns among them. I seem to recall it mentioned as possibly a trial run to get all of the legalities out of the way and establish precedent on a seemingly trivial item. They wouldn't even try. The courts would rip them to shreds, especially after the Heller and McDonald rulings. Really? If re-elected, he gets at least one, likely two SCOTUS appointments. Our gun rights are fucking GONE. |
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Quoted: Obama had four years to take away our guns, he proved that he's not after our guns. Who knows what Romney will do if elected? Hmmmmm..... Just saying. Pull back the wool, you have been played. |
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How do you go about making a expired law that no longer exists permanent?
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Obama had four years to take away our guns, he proved that he's not after our guns. Who knows what Romney will do if elected? Hmmmmm..... Just saying. Go back to DU! |
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I doubt the "Party" is going to allow him to do any damage that will effect future elections. I'm quite sure they have yet to forget the great Gore fiasco.
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If you thought something seemed way off with all of the Buckyballs magnets ban BS, there were definite mentions that this type of "expanded power" by the CPSC could be used to target all types of unpopular items - guns among them. I seem to recall it mentioned as possibly a trial run to get all of the legalities out of the way and establish precedent on a seemingly trivial item. They wouldn't even try. The courts would rip them to shreds, especially after the Heller and McDonald rulings. Really? If re-elected, he gets at least one, likely two SCOTUS appointments. Our gun rights are fucking GONE. This is where I'm at...the MOST important thing that this election will affect is the SCOTUS appointments. If nothing else I hope that people vote Romney for that. |
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Obama had four years to take away our guns, he proved that he's not after our guns. Who knows what Romney will do if elected? Hmmmmm..... Just saying. |
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As long as he does not get control of both houses I doubt you will see any bans. If this were a *lawful* administration, I would agree with you. However, I'm afraid they would go around Congress with EOs and BATF rulings to further erode the status quo as it pertains to the 2A. I'm not a lawyer so maybe I'm totally off base, but I clearly remember the predictable but fraudulent "study" commissioned by president G.H.W. Bush, and subsequent ban on the importation of "automated weapons" (his words-what a fucking tool) *just because*, and all of it done without consent of Congress IIRC. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong please. |
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How do you go about making a expired law that no longer exists permanent? Congress will submit it to the the Presdident and the Pres will sign it. This might help Just a Bill |
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I doubt the "Party" is going to allow him to do any damage that will effect future elections. I'm quite sure they have yet to forget the great Gore fiasco. Yeah like obama care and a out of control TSA or the libya fiasco ETC, ETC, ETC |
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Quoted: Quoted: Its not going to happen Yeah, oblamacare won't ever happen! Exactly. The complacency with some here is truly unbelievable. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I didn't know it had ever come down, but it certainly wasn't down for 4 years... I don't know man.... according to a lot of people in the know.... It was taken down from this website about 6 weeks after Obummer took office. I'm pretty sure I linked directly to it here well into his first two years in office, but I don't have time to search for it now... and far be it from me to argue with "people in the know." |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Its not going to happen Yeah, oblamacare won't ever happen! Exactly. The complacency with some here is truly unbelievable. Biden looks into the camera on national TV last night and tells everyone that if oblama doesn't get SCOTUS picks, Roe V. Wade is dead. How STUPID do you have to be... to not see how important this is? |
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Its not going to happen Yeah, oblamacare won't ever happen! While this is a good little sound bite kind of argument, the two things are very different. In addition to being reelected, Obama would need control of the house and senate. I sure don't think he's going to get that with this election but who knows what will happen two years from now. But, even if both go blue in a couple years, Obama would need a large number of Democrats to stop caring about their NRA rating. I doubt that is going to happen either. So, I think it's pretty unlikely that federal gun control legislation is coming in the near future. I'm not so sure about what BHO might attempt through executive order abuse but, hopefully, he can't do too much damage that way. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Its not going to happen Yeah, oblamacare won't ever happen! While this is a good little sound bite kind of argument, the two things are very different. In addition to being reelected, Obama would need control of the house and senate. I sure don't think he's going to get that with this election but who knows what will happen two years from now. But, even if both go blue in a couple years, Obama would need a large number of Democrats to stop caring about their NRA rating. I doubt that is going to happen either. So, I think it's pretty unlikely that federal gun control legislation is coming in the near future. I'm not so sure about what BHO might attempt through executive order abuse but, hopefully, he can't do too much damage that way. I really don't think so. |
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Quoted: Why Am I just hearing about this now? This was part of the platform changes from the DNC convention. I don't know why you haven't been paying attention. |
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I'm tired of all the bullshit; Panic Buy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!$!!!!!!!!
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Obama had four years to take away our guns, he proved that he's not after our guns. Are you kidding? It looks like BHO, and Holder, attempted to gain support for gun control by forcing gun dealers to allow straw buyer purchases then let the guns to walk into Mexico. |
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Obama had four years to take away our guns, he proved that he's not after our guns. Seriously - GTFO. The fact he didn't try to take them during his first term, with a congress that would never have allowed it, means NOTHING. Assuming he's elected, he won't have anything to lose. Re-enacting the assault-weapons ban has always been on his agenda. He's just been biding his time. Pull your head out of the sand. |
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Its not going to happen Yeah, oblamacare won't ever happen! While this is a good little sound bite kind of argument, the two things are very different. In addition to being reelected, Obama would need control of the house and senate. I sure don't think he's going to get that with this election but who knows what will happen two years from now. But, even if both go blue in a couple years, Obama would need a large number of Democrats to stop caring about their NRA rating. I doubt that is going to happen either. So, I think it's pretty unlikely that federal gun control legislation is coming in the near future. I'm not so sure about what BHO might attempt through executive order abuse but, hopefully, he can't do too much damage that way. I really don't think so. I don't understand. You think Obama can pass legislation by himself? Or do you think a republican controlled house or senate will pass legislation for him to sign? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Its not going to happen Yeah, oblamacare won't ever happen! While this is a good little sound bite kind of argument, the two things are very different. In addition to being reelected, Obama would need control of the house and senate. I sure don't think he's going to get that with this election but who knows what will happen two years from now. But, even if both go blue in a couple years, Obama would need a large number of Democrats to stop caring about their NRA rating. I doubt that is going to happen either. So, I think it's pretty unlikely that federal gun control legislation is coming in the near future. I'm not so sure about what BHO might attempt through executive order abuse but, hopefully, he can't do too much damage that way. I really don't think so. I don't understand. You think Obama can pass legislation by himself? Or do you think a republican controlled house or senate will pass legislation for him to sign? I think he will find a way to get it through, just like he did with healthcare. He'll use whatever Chicago tactics he has to. |
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Obama isn't coming after anything.
The GOVERNMENT is coming after our guns. We need to stop focusing on the puppet they hang out in front of us and focus on the real threat. |
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simply ask WHAT is this "gun show loophole"? You know the one that allows you to buy fa/mgs, hand grenades, rpg's, and the like at dirt cheap prices........ Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile this is exactly what I'm getting at. Its amazing how uniformed/blatantly ignorant the left is towards Gun Shows. EVERYONE still has to the proper background check paperwork. Really, the only advantage of a gun show over a gun store is a wider selection, at POSSIBLY slightly lower prices. It's worse than that. It isn't ignorance, its pure malice. What they mean by "gun show loophole" is the ability for a private citizen to sell a gun to another private citizen without a background check. In effect, they'd like to make it illegal to sell a gun without reporting the fact you've done so to the government. What closing the "gun show loophole" is really about is backdoor registration of firearms. And we all know what comes after registration. |
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Its not going to happen if obama wins a second term I have no doubt it will happen. This WILL happen in a second Obama term, anyone who thinks otherwise is either a fool or have their head too far in the sand. |
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