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Posted: 7/28/2002 1:34:33 PM EDT
[b]Britons left in jail amid fears that Saudi Arabia could fall to al-Qaeda [/b]

Saudi Arabia is teetering on the brink of collapse, fuelling Foreign Office fears of an extremist takeover of one of the West's key allies in the war on terror.
Anti-government demonstrations have swept the desert kingdom in the past months in protest at the pro-American stance of the de facto ruler, Prince Abdullah.

At the same time, Whitehall officials are concerned that Abdullah could face a palace coup from elements within the royal family sympathetic to al-Qaeda.

Saudi sources said the Pentagon had recently sponsored a secret conference to look at options if the royal family fell.

Demonstrations across the kingdom broke out in March, triggered by a fire in a girls' school in which 14 pupils died after the religious police stopped them escaping.

Unrest in the east of the country rapidly escalated into nationwide protests against the royal family that were brutally suppressed by the police. The Observer has obtained secret video footage of the protests smuggled out of the country last week that shows hundreds of Saudis, including women, demonstrating in support of the Palestinians and opposition to the regime.

The Foreign Office believes that the failure of Abdullah's recent Middle East peace plan could have terminally undermined his position.

The Crown Prince's main rival, Prince Sultan, the Defence Minister, has been vocal in his opposition to Abdullah's pro-Western policy. His brother Prince Naif, head of the Interior Ministry, has led a crackdown on the Saudi media in the wake of the demonstrations to stop any word of them leaking out.

Abdullah has even sent his own representative to Washington to counter the influence of the ambassador, Prince Bandar, a son of Prince Sultan.

Anti-Abdullah elements within the Saudi government are also thought to have colluded in a wave of bomb attacks on Western targets by Islamic terrorists.

The authorities have blamed the attacks on an alleged 'turf war' between Westerners involved in the bootleg alcohol trade and have jailed five Britons, a Canadian and a Belgian for the bombings. But British intelligence sources have confirmed that the attacks were carried out by Islamists linked to al-Qaeda.

Earlier this year, the accused men were handed sentences ranging from execution to long prison terms. But lawyers acting for the Britons have told The Observer that they could soon be free.

The tensions between the royal factions will intensify with the death of King Fahd. The condition of the king, in hospital in Switzerland, is 'unstable', doctors said.

British-based Saudi dissident Dr Saad al-Fagih said: 'There is now an undeclared war between the factions in the Saudi royal family.'

[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/saudi/story/0,11599,764617,00.html[/url]
Link Posted: 7/28/2002 1:42:24 PM EDT
[#1]
Interesting, have to keep tabs on this.

Ben
Link Posted: 7/28/2002 2:07:54 PM EDT
[#2]
The only change will be that they will be OPEN in their hostility to the US!  I think they are and have always been the enemy of the US.

A big nuke to Mecca would be my choice to clear up any misunderstanding!  Remember, 15 of the vermin who attacked the US 9/11 were Saudi!!
Link Posted: 7/28/2002 2:34:08 PM EDT
[#3]
well, we had a couple of decades of peace. If this global movement of militant Islam start boiling over, we might end up with a serious war on our hands. A war we've never fought before. These guys are all over the place, from China to Russia to Europe to the United States.
Link Posted: 7/28/2002 2:42:44 PM EDT
[#4]
WOW THAT IS GREAT NEWS !!!!!!!! That means we can go in , fuck the Saudi Govt . and TAKE BACK OUR OIL FIELDS ! Then we establish a Republic type of govt . With a woman as President ! Of course she would be a total puppet of the USA . WoooHooo !!! CHEAP GASOLINE AGAIN ! $0.39 A GALLON GAS !
Link Posted: 7/28/2002 2:51:18 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
WOW THAT IS GREAT NEWS !!!!!!!! That means we can go in , fuck the Saudi Govt . and TAKE BACK OUR OIL FIELDS ! Then we establish a Republic type of govt . With a woman as President ! Of course she would be a total puppet of the USA . WoooHooo !!! CHEAP GASOLINE AGAIN ! $0.39 A GALLON GAS !
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I like the way you think, man.
Link Posted: 7/28/2002 3:04:32 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
The only change will be that they will be OPEN in their hostility to the US!  I think they are and have always been the enemy of the US.
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MM, You hit the nail right on the head!
Let's not forget the well publicized telethon for "Palestinian relief"
Link Posted: 7/28/2002 3:47:16 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
WOW THAT IS GREAT NEWS !!!!!!!! That means we can go in , fuck the Saudi Govt . and TAKE BACK OUR OIL FIELDS ! Then we establish a Republic type of govt . With a woman as President ! Of course she would be a total puppet of the USA . WoooHooo !!! CHEAP GASOLINE AGAIN ! $0.39 A GALLON GAS !
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Couldn't have put it any better myself.  [beer]

the_reject
Link Posted: 7/28/2002 3:59:39 PM EDT
[#8]
Excellent News, but it probably won't come to fruition.  I don't know when the West will acknowledge it is in a war with islam, if ever.  The US will probably stifle any radical change in Saudi gubermint.  We are unlikely to see a repeat of the Iranian collapse in which President Carter sacrificed/abandoned our intelligence apparatus in Iran.  I believe President Bush is not weak-minded like that, and I do realize we are talking Arabs vs Persians.
Link Posted: 7/28/2002 9:01:55 PM EDT
[#9]
and...

we could send over our godawful corporate hog operations that run 50-100,000 hogs over to their oasis areas..

nothing like pig slop and manure to ruin a good muslim country..
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