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Posted: 7/23/2002 4:24:32 PM EDT
A friend sent me a link to this video:
[url]http://blort.meepzorp.com/fenestration/guylife.asf[/url]
Seems pretty accurate to me.  And ya gotta love the Rammstein.

However, the website that the video credits is really quite brutal.  Some people here might enjoy it.  I don't.  But since others might, here it is:
[url=http://www.ogrish.com/]Ogrish.com : Can you handle life?[/url]
Link Posted: 7/23/2002 4:34:47 PM EDT
[#1]
BTW, as an example of content:

[url]http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/story/3621564p-4647611c.html[/url]

[b]Horrific video shows hanging was no suicide[/b]

By Wayne Wilson -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:15 a.m. PDT Thursday, July 18, 2002

It was ruled a suicide by hanging.

But Nancy Mae Paul's mother, Shirley, didn't believe for a moment that her daughter had killed herself.

"I told them that was a lie. I knew in my heart that was not the truth," she said last week, reflecting on the incredible twist in the story of Nancy Paul's short life and sudden death.

Initial reports suggested that the 27-year-old mother of two, reported by her boyfriend to be despondent over the death of an acquaintance, had stepped off a chair with a knotted rope around her neck.

Arthur Gene Lane said he'd found his girlfriend suspended from a beam in a side room off the Power Inn Road home they shared with Lane's mother, Harlene.

But the horrifying truth emerged a month later on a videotape that showed Lane kicking the chair out from under Paul and then joking into the camera as she struggled desperately for her last breath.

Lane, 31, has admitted taping Paul's May 21, 2001, death and is charged with first-degree murder.

He has pleaded not guilty.

The videotape, at the center of the state's case, was played in open court at a preliminary hearing last November.

As the tape unfolds, it shows Lane and Paul standing on a wooden chair, engaged in teasing with the rope.

After the noose is placed over Paul's head, Lane suddenly jumps to the floor and kicks the chair out from under the woman, leaving her dangling by the neck.

With what the prosecutor described as an "obvious look of surprise on her face," Paul cries out, "I'm going to die!"

Those are her last words.

At first, Paul's feet can be seen touching the floor, but Lane grabs them to ensure, the prosecutor said, "the full effect of the hanging."

As the dying woman struggles for life, Lane positions himself so he can mouth, "poor baby" to the camera. He then adds, out loud, "Get a load of that ... that'll make a (expletive) man out of you."

After the tape was played in court, Sacramento Superior Court Judge Talmadge R. Jones ruled "there's more than substantial evidence" for Lane to be tried for murder.

Lane's attorney, assistant public defender John S. Perkins, declined to comment on the videotape.

He said Lane has "had a long history of psychiatric problems since he was a teenager" and his mental state will be a factor at trial, which is scheduled to begin in September.

If convicted, Lane could be sentenced to life without parole.

In pretrial motions, Perkins argued that "it is clear from the tape that Ms. Paul actively participated in her own death."

He said she "voluntarily stood on a chair beneath a noose," and when the noose became entangled in her hair as Lane placed it over her head, "she helped him disentangle it."

Perkins suggested Paul "knew exactly what was about to happen" and should not be regarded "as an unsuspecting victim of an immediate surprise attack."

Deputy District Attorney Steve Grippi rejected the idea that Paul's death may have been akin to an assisted suicide.

"The surprise on the victim's face and her scream, 'I'm gonna die,' show that she was taken unawares by Lane's conduct," Grippi argued.
Link Posted: 7/23/2002 4:35:18 PM EDT
[#2]
For three and a half weeks after Paul's death last May, the official line was that she'd killed herself.

Then a relative of Lane's, identified as Tammy Alexander of Carson City, Nev., overheard rumors that Lane had a videotape he had made of Paul's death. While Lane was out of town, Alexander went to his home and found a cassette labeled "The Blair Witch Project," according to court testimony.

But when she viewed the tape with Lane's mother present, the pictures she saw were more frightening and more disgusting than any fictional horror show.

The tape was given to the Sacramento County Sheriff's Department, which launched a full-scale homicide investigation. Lane was arrested June 18, 2001, as he got off a bus from Nevada in Sacramento.

To her family, Nancy Paul was a bright, loving, free-spirited woman who seized life and made the most of every turn it took.

So it was especially disturbing for Shirley Paul when she saw the tape of her daughter's death at the preliminary hearing.

"I demanded to see it. They told me I shouldn't, but she was my child. I had to," Shirley Paul said.

Her reaction?

"If I could have gotten to him, I would have killed him myself."

In a funeral notice placed in The Bee by family members following her death, Nancy Paul is remembered by her mother, Shirley; sisters Terri, Jane and Lola; brother Charles; and daughters Tori Lynn and Hailey.

"Visions of you fill our minds while sorrows fill our hearts ... There's no way to replace the empty space you've left in our hearts."

The coroner's final report now reads: "Homicide ... Ligature hanging caused by another."
Link Posted: 7/23/2002 4:36:10 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/23/2002 4:43:58 PM EDT
[#4]
Ogrish is a reflection of the most despicable behavior of humanity. I have seen Ogrish and many of these video clips before.

These scenes are horrific and disturbing on a primal level.

HOWEVER: If you have any belief that you will ever be engaged in a military conflict, you would do yourself a favor to witness some of the things you will face in war. Those who have never witnessed another human execution can get the nausea out of the way in advance in the privacy of your own living room.

Link Posted: 7/23/2002 4:53:14 PM EDT
[#5]
in before its locked  !!!  yuk...whats wrong with you peeps!
Link Posted: 7/23/2002 4:57:33 PM EDT
[#6]
He said Lane has "had a long history of psychiatric problems since he was a teenager" and his mental state will be a factor at trial, which is scheduled to begin in September.

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Not this shit again.
Link Posted: 7/23/2002 5:00:16 PM EDT
[#7]
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in before its locked  !!!  yuk...whats wrong with you peeps!
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With a stomach like that soldier, I hope to GOD you are never in my trench. IS YOUR UNIFORM PINK SON?!?!?

[:)]

Link Posted: 7/23/2002 5:03:51 PM EDT
[#8]
Link Posted: 7/23/2002 5:19:10 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:

HOWEVER: If you have any belief that you will ever be engaged in a military conflict, you would do yourself a favor to witness some of the things you will face in war.
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Bendover,
Well said. If there was any doubt about the intentions of these POS Arabs we're up against, one only need look at what the Chechen rebels do to Russian prisoners as evidenced by the vids on orgish.com
Link Posted: 7/23/2002 5:30:21 PM EDT
[#10]
I have ZERO interest in such a thing for entertainment value. However, with the advent of the internet we can be exposed to certain media not readily available. There is a practical purpose in desensitizing yourself somewhat to some scenes of this nature. Particularly the savage nature of war and especially capture.

Makes you sort of do a psyche 101 gut check with the "What if" questions.
Link Posted: 7/23/2002 5:34:21 PM EDT
[#11]
That video must be about the women here in Dallas, cause that is exactly the response I get from them.
Link Posted: 7/24/2002 2:58:05 AM EDT
[#12]
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That video must be about the women here in Dallas, cause that is exactly the response I get from them.
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I keep meeting the fat chicks with rotten teeth here in Seattle.

The others, well, I guess I'm not even worth their time to shred me into bloody bits.
Link Posted: 7/24/2002 3:22:28 AM EDT
[#13]
I think its interesting that links to places like [url]www.ogrish.com[/url] are ok but Heaven Forbid you offend anyone by posting a link to porn. I hate censorshit.[rolleyes]
Link Posted: 7/24/2002 3:25:09 AM EDT
[#14]
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Citabria does sound a bit French does it not?
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So does "Maynard". [:D]

Citabria is airbatiC backwards.  An aerobatic trainer airplane.  Nice little critters.
Link Posted: 7/24/2002 3:37:52 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/24/2002 7:31:57 AM EDT
[#16]
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Citabria does sound a bit French does it not?
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So does "Maynard". [:D]

Citabria is airbatiC backwards.  An aerobatic trainer airplane.  Nice little critters.
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(Nice little critters)  heck ya!!  i love'em.  i hear that they are harder to fly than C-172s, but for some reason i can kick some but in a Citabria.  fun little plane!  my instructor and i had a $5 bet on who could do a smoother landing in the citabria,  I won. [:D]  the C-172s are nice and all, but that citabria can do some really nice acro!  on the other hand, the Super Decatholon with its Inverted fuel system and agjustable prop is more suited for areobatics.  but flying is fun in general so its all good!
Link Posted: 7/24/2002 7:55:19 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/24/2002 8:08:50 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Ogrish is a reflection of the most despicable behavior of humanity. I have seen Ogrish and many of these video clips before.

These scenes are horrific and disturbing on a primal level.

HOWEVER: If you have any belief that you will ever be engaged in a military conflict, you would do yourself a favor to witness some of the things you will face in war. Those who have never witnessed another human execution can get the nausea out of the way in advance in the privacy of your own living room.

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Oh, Jesus! You're not kidding!

I just watched the video of the Russian soldier being decapitated. What's left of my breakfast is trying to make a mad dash for daylight the way it came in....

I don't think that I'll ever visit that site again.

What is it about humans (I'm not leaving myself out of this one either) that they seem so enthralled when others are hurt?

My prayers go out to that man's family... What a fu**ed up way to go.

No sir. I'll always carry an extra bullet just for me. I'll never be taken prisoner...

Edited to add: ...and boy am I glad they didn't have the video of this animal hanging the girl. Then I think I REALLY would've [puke]'d.
Link Posted: 7/24/2002 8:14:41 AM EDT
[#19]
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I showed several people Patton's original 5Jun44 speech, and it was disgusting how many of them were offended by it.
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What speah would that be?
Link Posted: 7/24/2002 9:43:12 AM EDT
[#20]
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I showed several people Patton's original 5Jun44 speech, and it was disgusting how many of them were offended by it.
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What speah would that be?
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I think that it might be this one:
[url]www.pattonhq.com/speech.html[/url]
Link Posted: 7/24/2002 9:50:46 AM EDT
[#21]

I just watched the video of the Russian soldier being decapitated. What's left of my breakfast is trying to make a mad dash for daylight the way it came in....

I don't think that I'll ever visit that site again.

What is it about humans (I'm not leaving myself out of this one either) that they seem so enthralled when others are hurt?

My prayers go out to that man's family... What a fu**ed up way to go.

No sir. I'll always carry an extra bullet just for me. I'll never be taken prisoner...

Edited to add: ...and boy am I glad they didn't have the video of this animal hanging the girl. Then I think I REALLY would've
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I saw that one and yep, I will never be taken alive by an arab terrorist. The soldier was so helpless, I gagged at his helplessness.  That was sad way for a soldier to go.  I hope those sons a bitches rot in hell.
Link Posted: 7/24/2002 10:12:12 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:

I just watched the video of the Russian soldier being decapitated. What's left of my breakfast is trying to make a mad dash for daylight the way it came in....

I don't think that I'll ever visit that site again.

What is it about humans (I'm not leaving myself out of this one either) that they seem so enthralled when others are hurt?

My prayers go out to that man's family... What a fu**ed up way to go.

No sir. I'll always carry an extra bullet just for me. I'll never be taken prisoner...

Edited to add: ...and boy am I glad they didn't have the video of this animal hanging the girl. Then I think I REALLY would've
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I saw that one and yep, I will never be taken alive by an arab terrorist. The soldier was so helpless, I gagged at his helplessness.  That was sad way for a soldier to go.  I hope those sons a bitches rot in hell.
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I concur 100 %

[:X*][:X*][:X*]

Link Posted: 7/24/2002 10:22:24 AM EDT
[#23]
I'm no longer surprised at the beastial animal nature expressed by some of people, only that some of us are still suprised by it.
Link Posted: 7/25/2002 2:19:44 AM EDT
[#24]
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It is fascinating how many people call for war, but insist on "civilization" in their own life.  I showed several people Patton's original 5Jun44 speech, and it was disgusting how many of them were offended by it.  If words offend them, they sure weren't going to handle war.
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That's why we ultimately have nothing to fear from liberals. They will clang all the bells, but send in other people to do the real dirty work. Themselves, they are "too civilized". That's why they are petrifid of us neanderthal gun owners.

Link Posted: 7/25/2002 2:20:16 AM EDT
[#25]
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No sir. I'll always carry an extra bullet just for me. I'll never be taken prisoner...
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