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Posted: 6/19/2012 1:53:15 PM EDT
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check out the pinch point in that feed tray!
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Posted: 6/19/2012 1:58:24 PM EDT
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Funny how the ricochets look like they are going faster than the rounds in flight.
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Posted: 6/19/2012 2:00:40 PM EDT
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Group buy?
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Posted: 6/19/2012 2:01:15 PM EDT
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I thought they were primarily AA guns but all the targets are in the ground role. Are these weapons mostly just ground weapons now.
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Posted: 6/19/2012 2:02:21 PM EDT
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Play with its replacement, the Tunguska, in Battlefield 3. Every team needs a good mobile AA driver.
And someone willing to sneak up on that mobile AA driver and pile C4 onto his vehicle. |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 2:03:57 PM EDT
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I thought they were primarily AA guns but all the targets are in the ground role. Are these weapons mostly just ground weapons now. Not exactly useful against modern birds, pretty fucking useful against soft targets is my uneducated view. Same thing with the Duster. |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 2:04:51 PM EDT
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I thought they were primarily AA guns but all the targets are in the ground role. Are these weapons mostly just ground weapons now. I read somewhere that the Reds used these for convoy protection in Afghanistan and they were extremely effective. They would pull out the Radar to free space for more ammo. I always thought something like the turret from the M42 Duster on the Stryker chassis would be cool. |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 2:05:38 PM EDT
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I thought they were primarily AA guns but all the targets are in the ground role. Are these weapons mostly just ground weapons now. They were designed for low flying aircraft. Now the battle field has VERY few low flying aircraft, so it only has 2 purposes - helicopters & ground targets. For the ground target role, the zsu can kick the butt of many types of implements. It has been used to pretty amazing effects in Syria & Libya |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 2:05:42 PM EDT
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Quoted: I thought they were primarily AA guns but all the targets are in the ground role. Are these weapons mostly just ground weapons now. They are. However, they became popular in Afghanistan in the '80s and Chechnya in the '90s as ground support/convoy escort due to their high ROF spitting out HE and HE-I and high gun elevation allowing them to shoot up mountainsides and tall buildings. |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 2:06:39 PM EDT
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My favorite AA vehicle of all time.
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Posted: 6/19/2012 2:09:12 PM EDT
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Lots of our guys used the M55 "Quad 50" against ground targets in Vietnam to devastating effect. In some instances, they were even used to dump withering fire on the reverse slopes of distant hills where the NVA were firing mortars from.
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Posted: 6/19/2012 2:12:40 PM EDT
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My favorite AA vehicle of all time. Yea..I generally despise most things Russianm, but I always did like the ZSU-23-4. |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 2:17:20 PM EDT
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Lots of our guys used the M55 "Quad 50" against ground targets in Vietnam to devastating effect. In some instances, they were even used to dump withering fire on the reverse slopes of distant hills where the NVA were firing mortars from.  http://youtu.be/aczpm9r-K18
not like we don't have any shortage of old .50s I would love to see a modern take on that on a humvee or stryker. |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 2:24:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/19/2012 2:48:49 PM EDT
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Very nice. Reminds me of the Gepard.
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Posted: 6/19/2012 3:10:27 PM EDT
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Lots of our guys used the M55 "Quad 50" against ground targets in Vietnam to devastating effect. In some instances, they were even used to dump withering fire on the reverse slopes of distant hills where the NVA were firing mortars from. http://youtu.be/aczpm9r-K18
For the first 10 seconds when that dude is traversing the M-55, for some reason, Bubb Rubb saying "the whistles go wooooooo!" played in my head. |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 3:16:13 PM EDT
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We tried.
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Posted: 6/19/2012 3:30:05 PM EDT
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This is what they look like after we kill 'em 
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Posted: 6/19/2012 3:55:34 PM EDT
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My father's neighbor was an AH-1 Cobra pilot based in Germany in the 70's/80's and said the ZSU-23's were his biggest fear since they expected hundreds of them to come over the Fulda Gap with the armor units if the balloon went up.
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Posted: 6/19/2012 4:00:15 PM EDT
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Lots of our guys used the M55 "Quad 50" against ground targets in Vietnam to devastating effect. In some instances, they were even used to dump withering fire on the reverse slopes of distant hills where the NVA were firing mortars from. http://youtu.be/aczpm9r-K18
not like we don't have any shortage of old .50s I would love to see a modern take on that on a humvee or stryker. We fill that role with the mInigun |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 4:02:25 PM EDT
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My father's neighbor was an AH-1 Cobra pilot based in Germany in the 70's/80's and said the ZSU-23's were his biggest fear since they expected hundreds of them to come over the Fulda Gap with the armor units if the balloon went up. And then we invented the HARM. Radar love, baby. |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 4:03:10 PM EDT
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check out the pinch point in that feed tray! Ivan...the three fingered gunner. 
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Posted: 6/19/2012 4:06:59 PM EDT
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My father's neighbor was an AH-1 Cobra pilot based in Germany in the 70's/80's and said the ZSU-23's were his biggest fear since they expected hundreds of them to come over the Fulda Gap with the armor units if the balloon went up. And then we invented the HARM. Radar love, baby. But the ZSU also had passive infrared tracking. No active counter measures for that one... |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 4:14:22 PM EDT
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http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6085/6110802422_b11cda264e_z.jpg This is what they look like after we kill 'em Did you kill it??? I have had dreams putting a TOW into the side of one!!!
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Posted: 6/19/2012 4:19:50 PM EDT
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Lots of our guys used the M55 "Quad 50" against ground targets in Vietnam to devastating effect. In some instances, they were even used to dump withering fire on the reverse slopes of distant hills where the NVA were firing mortars from. http://youtu.be/aczpm9r-K18
not like we don't have any shortage of old .50s I would love to see a modern take on that on a humvee or stryker. We fill that role with the mInigun The obvious answer is to call up GE and request quad mounted .50 BMG miniguns. |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 4:20:01 PM EDT
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I always liked it as well. Has a good slow mo scene in Avalon. I always thought a good name for it would have been 'Shiva', multiple-armed goddess of death and destruction.
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Posted: 6/19/2012 4:22:40 PM EDT
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Funny how the ricochets look like they are going faster than the rounds in flight. Its the point of reference, they look slower going fairly straight away from you, then you change the angle and you can more clearly see the rate of distance travelled. |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 4:23:51 PM EDT
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Lots of our guys used the M55 "Quad 50" against ground targets in Vietnam to devastating effect. In some instances, they were even used to dump withering fire on the reverse slopes of distant hills where the NVA were firing mortars from. http://youtu.be/aczpm9r-K18
Outside Bastonge during the battle of the bulge, a quad .50 on a half track racked up about 250 German KIA in just a few seconds. German infantry apparently thought the rig was theirs and walked up on it in the fog. |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 4:25:29 PM EDT
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We tried. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-CvR1l-_rrXs/T6k5DFjzR1I/AAAAAAAACb8/ANzNPvL76As/s1600/blog+sgt+york.jpg Ah yes, the Sgt York DIVAD... If your ever near Little Rock AR. Go to Camp Robinson which in in North Little Rock. They have one on static outdoor display. |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 5:02:05 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I thought they were primarily AA guns but all the targets are in the ground role. Are these weapons mostly just ground weapons now. Not exactly useful against modern birds, pretty fucking useful against soft targets is my uneducated view. Same thing with the Duster. Quad .50s in Korea against human waves |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 5:09:08 PM EDT
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http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6085/6110802422_b11cda264e_z.jpg This is what they look like after we kill 'em Did you kill it??? I have had dreams putting a TOW into the side of one!!! An Apache hit it flipped it. I was in a MP Co in Desert Storm. We were first on the scene took the POW's. She didn't burn like the BMP's did. |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 5:11:19 PM EDT
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Lots of our guys used the M55 "Quad 50" against ground targets in Vietnam to devastating effect. In some instances, they were even used to dump withering fire on the reverse slopes of distant hills where the NVA were firing mortars from. http://youtu.be/aczpm9r-K18
wasn't that the M33, or is that << an earlier version ? My old man's 1950s AAA unit (120 gun and 75mm Skysweeper) had quads for perimeter defense and low-flying commies. .50 ? Badass. Four together ? Shit hot ! ZSU23-4? very formidable. M42 DUSTER ? dusty loud and badass ! |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 5:12:51 PM EDT
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Lots of our guys used the M55 "Quad 50" against ground targets in Vietnam to devastating effect. In some instances, they were even used to dump withering fire on the reverse slopes of distant hills where the NVA were firing mortars from. http://youtu.be/aczpm9r-K18
Sigh I love the Nam. This is America though why isn't there 6-8 Ma dueces on there? |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 5:17:33 PM EDT
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Play with its replacement, the Tunguska, in Battlefield 3. Every team needs a good mobile AA driver. And someone willing to sneak up on that mobile AA driver and pile C4 onto his vehicle. It was a lot better before they nerfed it against personnel. 608 dead mofos FTW. (mostly on canals) |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 5:20:39 PM EDT
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Quoted: We tried. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-CvR1l-_rrXs/T6k5DFjzR1I/AAAAAAAACb8/ANzNPvL76As/s1600/blog+sgt+york.jpg Completely worthless POS. |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 5:21:28 PM EDT
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We tried. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-CvR1l-_rrXs/T6k5DFjzR1I/AAAAAAAACb8/ANzNPvL76As/s1600/blog+sgt+york.jpg Completely worthless POS. That's being kind. |
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Posted: 6/20/2012 4:47:56 AM EDT
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Lots of our guys used the M55 "Quad 50" against ground targets in Vietnam to devastating effect. In some instances, they were even used to dump withering fire on the reverse slopes of distant hills where the NVA were firing mortars from. http://youtu.be/aczpm9r-K18
not like we don't have any shortage of old .50s I would love to see a modern take on that on a humvee or stryker. Why have 4 M2s when you could have 1 GAU19? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S21EG5cACQA |
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Posted: 6/20/2012 5:21:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/20/2012 5:30:45 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/20/2012 5:33:58 AM EDT
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Play with its replacement, the Tunguska, in Battlefield 3. Every team needs a good mobile AA driver. And someone willing to sneak up on that mobile AA driver and pile C4 onto his vehicle. Probably my favorite thing to do, actually. No one ever plays them, so no one ever pays attention to them. Most of my kills in a given match are shooting down people who can't fly the aircraft. DeboUSMC here on Arf usually will act as an escort in a tank and rack up kills on people on the ground trying to take me out. |
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Posted: 6/20/2012 5:54:05 AM EDT
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I thought they were primarily AA guns but all the targets are in the ground role. Are these weapons mostly just ground weapons now. I read somewhere that the Reds used these for convoy protection in Afghanistan and they were extremely effective. They would pull out the Radar to free space for more ammo. I always thought something like the turret from the M42 Duster on the Stryker chassis would be cool. Funny you mention that. I always thought an American version of the BMP-T would be cool. I was picturing basically an M1 Abrams tank, perhaps even with the same basic turret design, but to replace the main gun with a 2x 40mm Bofors setup, perhaps with one or two .50 M2HB's as coaxial guns...A mobile crunchy-slaughterhouse on tracks, with a secondary anti-chopper role. |
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Posted: 6/20/2012 6:36:30 AM EDT
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Why the hell do I have the urge to watch red dawn right now?
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Posted: 6/20/2012 7:21:26 AM EDT
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Those things can lay down the lead. |
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Posted: 6/20/2012 7:23:57 AM EDT
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I thought they were primarily AA guns but all the targets are in the ground role. Are these weapons mostly just ground weapons now. Not exactly useful against modern birds, pretty fucking useful against soft targets is my uneducated view. Same thing with the Duster. They are a helicopter's worst nightmare. |
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Posted: 6/20/2012 7:47:16 AM EDT
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Lots of our guys used the M55 "Quad 50" against ground targets in Vietnam to devastating effect. In some instances, they were even used to dump withering fire on the reverse slopes of distant hills where the NVA were firing mortars from. http://youtu.be/aczpm9r-K18
Outside Bastonge during the battle of the bulge, a quad .50 on a half track racked up about 250 German KIA in just a few seconds. German infantry apparently thought the rig was theirs and walked up on it in the fog. My uncle fought his way through Bavaria in WWII. He used this exact set up on several German villages late in the war to deter/kill snipers, home guard "volk" volunteers & hold outs (some of whom probably would have been armed with that short-range "panzerfaust" disposible bazooka and who knows what else?). He ordered both the half-tracks to blow the front off every house along the main street while rolling slowly forward. His men loved it & he had the lowest casualty rate among similar-sized units. It was apparently an effective tactic. But, he recieved a reprimand for highest ammunition consumption rate of any similar sized unit.  He received several purple herats and battle-field promotions; he went on to serve in combat many years later in Korea as well.
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Posted: 6/20/2012 8:26:35 AM EDT
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Lots of our guys used the M55 "Quad 50" against ground targets in Vietnam to devastating effect. In some instances, they were even used to dump withering fire on the reverse slopes of distant hills where the NVA were firing mortars from. http://youtu.be/aczpm9r-K18
Outside Bastonge during the battle of the bulge, a quad .50 on a half track racked up about 250 German KIA in just a few seconds. German infantry apparently thought the rig was theirs and walked up on it in the fog. My uncle fought his way through Bavaria in WWII. He used this exact set up on several German villages late in the war to deter/kill snipers, home guard "volk" volunteers & hold outs (some of whom probably would have been armed with that short-range "panzerfaust" disposible bazooka and who knows what else?). He ordered both the half-tracks to blow the front off every house along the main street while rolling slowly forward. His men loved it & he had the lowest casualty rate among similar-sized units. It was apparently an effective tactic. But, he recieved a reprimand for highest ammunition consumption rate of any similar sized unit. He received several purple herats and battle-field promotions; he went on to serve in combat many years later in Korea as well.Your uncle, my great uncle and grandpa chewed up the same ground. Grandpa remembered seeing the "meat choppers" in action. |
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Posted: 6/20/2012 9:11:12 AM EDT
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Lots of our guys used the M55 "Quad 50" against ground targets in Vietnam to devastating effect. In some instances, they were even used to dump withering fire on the reverse slopes of distant hills where the NVA were firing mortars from. http://youtu.be/aczpm9r-K18
Outside Bastonge during the battle of the bulge, a quad .50 on a half track racked up about 250 German KIA in just a few seconds. German infantry apparently thought the rig was theirs and walked up on it in the fog. At Parker's Crossroads, or is there another instance? |
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Posted: 6/20/2012 1:11:37 PM EDT
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I thought they were primarily AA guns but all the targets are in the ground role. Are these weapons mostly just ground weapons now. Not exactly useful against modern birds, pretty fucking useful against soft targets is my uneducated view. Same thing with the Duster. They are a helicopter's worst nightmare. I was thinking about fixed wing when I said that, I'm far from an aviation expert. 
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Posted: 6/20/2012 1:18:35 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Lots of our guys used the M55 "Quad 50" against ground targets in Vietnam to devastating effect. In some instances, they were even used to dump withering fire on the reverse slopes of distant hills where the NVA were firing mortars from. http://youtu.be/aczpm9r-K18not like we don't have any shortage of old .50s I would love to see a modern take on that on a humvee or stryker. Why have 4 M2s when you could have 1 GAU19? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S21EG5cACQA Why have a GAU19 when you can have an M61:  |
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Posted: 6/20/2012 1:21:42 PM EDT
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Lots of our guys used the M55 "Quad 50" against ground targets in Vietnam to devastating effect. In some instances, they were even used to dump withering fire on the reverse slopes of distant hills where the NVA were firing mortars from. http://youtu.be/aczpm9r-K18
not like we don't have any shortage of old .50s I would love to see a modern take on that on a humvee or stryker. Why have 4 M2s when you could have 1 GAU19? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S21EG5cACQA Why have a GAU19 when you can have an M61: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/M163_VADS.JPEG/800px-M163_VADS.JPEG The ADA unit down the street from us at FT Hood in the early 90s had those. Pretty cool when they did gunnery. Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp. |
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