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Posted: 7/11/2002 4:46:30 AM EDT
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,57419,00.html[/url]
UNITED NATIONS — The United States on Wednesday backed off from its demand for permanent immunity for U.S. peacekeepers from the new war crimes tribunal, proposing instead a ban on any investigation of peacekeepers for a year. U.S. Ambassador John Negroponte circulated the new proposal to the U.N. Security Council after an open council meeting where the United States faced intense criticism from countries around the world, including its closes allies. The United States earlier had threatened to end U.N. peacekeeping if it didn't get open-ended immunity for peacekeepers from countries that have not ratified the Rome treaty establishing the court, which came into existence on July 1. The treaty has been signed by 139 countries and ratified by 76, including all 15 members of the European Union. The United States has been demanding immunity on grounds that other countries could use the new court for frivolous and politically motivated prosecutions of American soldiers. The position has put the Bush administration at odds with its closest allies and the rest of the world. The new draft U.S. resolution asks the court for a 12-month exemption from investigation or prosecution of peacekeepers and "expresses the intention to renew the request ... for further 12 month periods for as long as may be necessary." Many Security Council members said the new U.S.-proposed resolution didn't go far enough. Nonetheless, they called the mood positive and said for the first time the United States appeared willing to negotiate. Britain's U.N. Ambassador Jeremy Greenstock, the current council president, called the U.S. proposal "a fair basis for discussion" and said consultations would continue on Thursday. At the open council meeting, ambassadors from nearly 40 countries criticized the U.S. demand for immunity, saying it would affect peacekeeping and stability from the Balkans to Africa. Only India offered some sympathy to the U.S. position. Canada's U.N. Ambassador Paul Heinbecker, who requested the open meeting, warned that the United States was putting the credibility of the Security Council, the legality of international treaties, and the principle that all people are equal and accountable before the law at stake. Washington last month vetoed a six-month extension of the 1,500-strong U.N. police training mission in Bosnia and a yearlong extension of the authorization for the 18,000-strong NATO-led peacekeeping force -- and then gave the missions two reprieves, the latest until July 15. View Quote |
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Its argument of the fear of politically motivated prosecutions was rejected by speakers from the European Union, Latin America, Africa and Asia who countered that the Rome treaty had sufficient safeguards to prevent. First and foremost, the court will step in only when states are unwilling or unable to dispense justice for war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide. The draft U.S. resolution makes no mention of immunity. Under the U.S. proposal, any peacekeeper who was exempt from investigation or prosecution for a year could then be investigated and prosecuted if the exemption was not renewed -- though no U.N. peacekeeper has ever been charged with a war crime. "We have for one year a total freedom," said Richard Grenell, spokesman for the U.S. Mission, who said this was sufficient time to bring any American suspect home, thus out of reach of the court. "What we have been focused on is ensuring that American men and women are not within the reach of the International Criminal Court," he said. "What we have been able to offer today ... (is) that for a period of 12 months they would have that immunity." But the U.S. draft still raises serious questions for some council members. The Rome treaty allows the Security Council to request a 12-month deferral of investigation or prosecution by the court on a case-by-case basis. Diplomats said some council members argued that the U.S. draft would change the statute's intent by giving blanket deferral to peacekeepers. "It's a very positive attitude on the part of the U.S. to bring a new text which is a step in the right direction," said Mauritius' U.N. Ambassador Jagdish Koonjul, a council member. "I think we are getting closer." Colombia's U.N. Ambassador Alfonso Valdivieso, also a council member, called the U.S. draft "an improvement" because it was not "in perpetuity." But both said the blanket deferral for peacekeepers was still an issue. View Quote The first step in giving up our sovernty. Actually the second. The first was being involved with the U.N. to begin with. |
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Methinks U.N. peacekeeping is a pissing-in-the-ocean proposition anyway. Let's disband the worthless organization and spin off any parts of it that do charitable work.
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ilikelegs- i fear you are correct...
marvl- your sig line rocks! |
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Why do i get the feeling we are going to see LOTS of US military personel on trial very soon by the UN.
This is a travesty and anyone in our government supporting this is a traitor to this nation. |
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I think MARVL has the right idea.
Maybe we could just cut funding and watch the whole organization go down the toilet. [:D] |
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[red]United Nations Armed Forces will have immunity.[/red]
This court will make The United Nations Armed Forces the only place that a warrior can be sure that he will not be imprisoned for plying his chosen profession. No immunity means the end of professional soldiers under our flag. It is just a matter of when. [red]The damage done by Clinton and his crew of traitors continues.[/red] |
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Quoted: [red]The damage done by Clinton and his crew of traitors continues.[/red] View Quote PLEASE.....It doesn't matter who is in office, tweedely-dee, or tweedely-dum, the agenda goes forward.... |
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Quoted: Quoted: [red]The damage done by Clinton and his crew of traitors continues.[/red] View Quote PLEASE.....It doesn't matter who is in office, tweedely-dee, or tweedely-dum, the agenda goes forward.... View Quote AND THERE'S NOT A DAMN THING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT EITHER. They already have thousands of U.N. vehicles stationed all over America. |
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Quoted: AND THERE'S NOT A DAMN THING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT EITHER. They already have thousands of U.N. vehicles stationed all over America. View Quote Got a link or reference for that? I've heard that claim before, and all anyone seems to be able to come up with is (undated) pictures of US military vehicles (HMMWVs, APCs) either on their way to or back from UN "peacekeeping" missions and not yet re-CARC painted. Oh, and by the way, Bush is a [b]PUSSY![/b] Too big a fan of the UN to make a serious move in favor of US sovereignty. Put the prosecution of US "peacekeepers" up to paragons of virtue like Sudan and North Korea? Why not? |
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Quoted: Quoted: AND THERE'S NOT A DAMN THING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT EITHER. They already have thousands of U.N. vehicles stationed all over America. View Quote Got a link or reference for that? I've heard that claim before, and all anyone seems to be able to come up with is (undated) pictures of US military vehicles (HMMWVs, APCs) either on their way to or back from UN "peacekeeping" missions and not yet re-CARC painted. Oh, and by the way, Bush is a [b]PUSSY![/b] Too big a fan of the UN to make a serious move in favor of US sovereignty. Put the prosecution of US "peacekeepers" up to paragons of virtue like Sudan and North Korea? Why not? View Quote I just did a search on google for U.N. vehicles in America... Here is what I found. [url]http://witewillo.homestead.com/indexwitewillo.html[/url] [img]http://witewillo.homestead.com/files/un3high_militarytrucks.jpg[/img] [img]http://witewillo.homestead.com/files/georgiaunbuses.jpg[/img] [img]http://witewillo.homestead.com/files/billboard.jpg[/img] [url]http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/whiteunbus.htm[/url] [url]http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/home.htm[/url] [img]http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/unbus.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/unconvoy.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/un2high.jpg[/img] [url]http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lagoon/1780/vehicle.html[/url] Some of the sites not listed here in this search have dead links now. Wonder why ? |
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Riddle me this, Batman:
When US troops go on UN "peacekeeping" missions, what do you expect them to ride around in? US vehicles, maybe? Like HMMWVs, trucks, buses, ambulances, etc? And, if they're enforcing a UN mandate over in someplace like Allfuctupistan, what colors do you think the vehicles would have to be painted? UN colors, maybe? And, if they're US military vehicles, where do you think those vehicles would get painted in UN colors? Here in America in a US Army motor pool, or in a dirt field somewhere in Allfuctupistan with a few cans of Krylon? I'm guessing in a US Army motor pool. And then, when the "peacekeeping" mission is over and the vehicles are to be shipped back to America, where do you think would be a good place to repaint those US made, US Army vehicles back into their US Army colors? In US Army motor pools or in a dirt lot in the now-peaceful Republic of Allfuctupistan? I couldn't help noticing that there's no text provided on the sites where you got those pictures. There aren't any explanations or interviews of UN or US DOD personnel. There aren't even any wild theories. Just pictures. Color me skeptical. |
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1. Recognition of this kangaroo court is one more sign that the U.S. is on its way out, to be replaced by a word-wide u.n. government. They will be able to send in 'their' soldiers, tax your earnings, and hold individuals accountable to the socialist/comie laws of europe. Bush loses 'nads and gives up sovereignty by listening to advisors instead of his conscience.
2. The u.n. is here, and they have been here. They currently control a large portion of 'government owned' land through their biosphere management programs. 3. It is not too late, but if we do not abandon the u.n. and run them out of the U.S., we are doomed as a free nation. 4. If U.S. troops are assigned to a 'peace keeping' mission in this country, I expect our troops to be in U.S. marked vehicles and wearing U.S. uniforms. 5. F**K the u.n. just my $0.02 worth |
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Perhaps it's a blessing in disguise and will serve as the primary impetus for keeping the US out of peace keeping missions in the first place. If we need to act unilaterally, than so be it. Just as the saying goes "We don't need no stinking badges", we don't need no stinking UN.
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America has everything to loose; no other nation has anything to loose because they are all Socialist/ Communist countries with no freedom , no liberty, No other Nation has what we have. I say America can go it alone, only maintaining its NATO alliance (which is not UN). Hmmm... This is going to be a bad deal.
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You've hit it, FL_BOY, especially #5.
IMHO, if the UN wants a "Peace Keeping Force", they should have a volunteer one. If U.S. citizens choose to serve, that's their option, but OUR troops, and OUR tax dollars shouldn't be supporting the rest of the world. |
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If I were still active duty, this would be enough to make me get out.
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Quoted: Riddle me this, Batman: When US troops go on UN "peacekeeping" missions, what do you expect them to ride around in? View Quote What did they ride in during the Gulf War ? Our own vehicles. Are we a storage country for the UN as well ? US vehicles, maybe? Like HMMWVs, trucks, buses, ambulances, etc? And, if they're enforcing a UN mandate over in someplace like Allfuctupistan, what colors do you think the vehicles would have to be painted? UN colors, maybe? And, if they're US military vehicles, where do you think those vehicles would get painted in UN colors? Here in America in a US Army motor pool, or in a dirt field somewhere in Allfuctupistan with a few cans of Krylon? I'm guessing in a US Army motor pool. And then, when the "peacekeeping" mission is over and the vehicles are to be shipped back to America, where do you think would be a good place to repaint those US made, US Army vehicles back into their US Army colors? In US Army motor pools or in a dirt lot in the now-peaceful Republic of Allfuctupistan? View Quote We ship buses to control riots or store rioters in ? They need buses from us ? I couldn't help noticing that there's no text provided on the sites where you got those pictures. There aren't any explanations or interviews of UN or US DOD personnel. There aren't even any wild theories. Just pictures. View Quote You just asked for links, I found them for you in 5 minutes on google. And this was in response to my comment about seeing UN vehicles in America. My thread was about "U.S. Backs Down From Immunity -International Court". Not about proving the UN has vehicle's stored here. But I provided that as well with pictures. They are here, Why ? I don't know. Your arguments against the UN having them here is good enough to sway me and think everything is ok now... Color me skeptical. View Quote Me too... |
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Quoted: I betcha Patton is throwing one hellacious fit right now.. View Quote I think more of us here should be as well. |
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Well, in regards to not funding the UN, we wern't for several years....
Due to concerns about the UN offering abortion as part of it's 'population control', Congress (pre-2001) held back our UN dues... It made them mad (but there wasn't anything they could do about it), and Willy didn't like it too much either. Yes, we contributed troops and military support, but we didn't pay our dues... Then when Bush came in to office, paying off the UN became a PR move (back before 9/11) when everyone was criticizing him for being 'president of the US' (i.e. being 'unilateral' in regard to US interests). It is likely that this will 'fade to black' now that he doesn't have to worry much about PR on international issues. As for the logic of peacekeeping, it works in some cases, but not in others. For a peace to be enforcable, the majority of society must be ready for it, with only a distinct minority of 'die-hards' still interested in fighting. So it worked in Japan, the former Yugoslavia, Korea (that was a UN mission), and such but it will not work in Israel, and... As for the ICC, this 'backing down' is in name only. What we now ask for is 'give us 12 months to bring our guy home, and if you try to put him on trial, be warned - we're coming for him'. If this 12 month thing goes through, expect to see the 'authorization to rescue US personell from the ICC by military force' ammendment get tacked to something major... As for seeing the 'Black Helicopters' and such, the UN is too impotent to pose any real threat. Notice how they're so concerned about us taking our ball and going home? Also look at what happened to the last 'international body' that the US didn't join (the LN). They were toothless, innefective, and they fell apart (since the Europeans wouldn't fight to enforce the 'international mandates' they doled out (sound familliar??), the 'bad boy' countries just either blew off the LN or withdrew). Besides, the US can veto anything military-related that the UN does. Don't worry about a 'UN invasion' - worry about our politicians signing too many international conventions (Kyoto, ICC, etc...), as this is where the erosion comes from (Bush is right to be wary here, as treaties are (iirc) equivalent to constitutional ammendments if signed and ratified). |
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HAHAHA! Didn't I say that dubyah would "change" his mind about the ICC?
Don't think it was just under klinton either, it has been part of an ongoing plan outlined in the Department of State Publication 7277 since 1961! But noooooo the sheeple handwaivers refused to even read the documents dismissing it with stupid "black helicopter" and "tin foil hat" statements. You now deserve all that happens. [url=williamcooper.com/7277.htm]Department of State Publication 7277[/url] [url=www.cgg.ch/contents.htm]Our Global Neighbourhood: The report of the Commission on Global Governance[/url] |
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Bush is batting a thousand isn't he?
Where are the "it's a political strategy, he's really on our side" apologists now? |
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Quoted: What did they ride in during the Gulf War ? Our own vehicles. Are we a storage country for the UN as well ? View Quote That's right. During the Gulf War, US forces acted under their own command as part of a coalition, and so didn't need to repaint their vehicles, except to paint that "^" symbol on the side. In UN "peacekeeping" operations, all troops subordinate their national loyalties to that of the benevolent global peace overlords, and have to paint their vehicles to match each other. The French do this, the Brits do this and we do this. Once the units return from "peacekeeping" duty, they repaint their vehicles to the usual national paint scheme and throw away their powder blue helmets AKA target indicators. We ship buses to control riots or store rioters in ? They need buses from us ? View Quote When I was in the Marine Corps, I rode in US government school-style buses several times. I imagine they would want them for transporting a platoon of troops or for evacuating civilian personnel, but this is just a guess. You just asked for links, I found them for you in 5 minutes on google. And this was in response to my comment about seeing UN vehicles in America. My thread was about "U.S. Backs Down From Immunity -International Court". Not about proving the UN has vehicle's stored here. But I provided that as well with pictures. They are here, Why ? I don't know. Your arguments against the UN having them here is good enough to sway me and think everything is ok now... View Quote Everything's not okay, but I doubt that there are stockpiles of UN equipment here just waiting for Pakistani UN troops to come and disarm us all. |
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Quoted: Everything's not okay, but I doubt that there are stockpiles of UN equipment here just waiting for Pakistani UN troops to come and disarm us all. View Quote I don't know if I sould post this but 5 years ago we took a private plane to Mexico. (mission trip) We weren't fly as high as a jet so you could see the ground fairly well. Somewhere in S. Arizona close to New Mexico and the Mexican boarder we fly over thousands of white vehicles. The reason I hesitate in posting this is because I could not see markings on them since we were flying to high. But there were so many of them out in the middle of nowhere. We all talked about it on the plane since there was just 8 of us. This was no car lot. There were rows and rows of them. I venture to say 5,000 white vehicles stored there. Seeing something vague like this and reading about it are two different things. I became aware after this and listened. I don't see why our military would keep so many vehicles stored like this to ship out to the next peace keeping mission. |
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I hate to say this, but I think if the SHTF for real it will have something to do with the UN.
Somone correct me if I am wrong about any of this. 1. our troops are forced to server under foreign leaders on these "peace keeping missions" 2. the UN "owns" land here in the US, specifically certain national parks 3. the UN is the biggest anti gun (small arms) group in the world One day they will send a "peacekeeping" force into the US, probably when there is a large riot of some sort. Then they will start to confiscate the small arms. Thats what SHTF means to me. UN = SH!T therefore UNHTF is appropriate also. |
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Quoted: I hate to say this, but I think if the SHTF for real it will have something to do with the UN. Somone correct me if I am wrong about any of this. 1. our troops are forced to server under foreign leaders on these "peace keeping missions" 2. the UN "owns" land here in the US, specifically certain national parks 3. the UN is the biggest anti gun (small arms) group in the world One day they will send a "peacekeeping" force into the US, probably when there is a large riot of some sort. Then they will start to confiscate the small arms. Thats what SHTF means to me. UN = SH!T therefore UNHTF is appropriate also. View Quote Wonder which agency will help them. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I hate to say this, but I think if the SHTF for real it will have something to do with the UN. Somone correct me if I am wrong about any of this. 1. our troops are forced to server under foreign leaders on these "peace keeping missions" 2. the UN "owns" land here in the US, specifically certain national parks 3. the UN is the biggest anti gun (small arms) group in the world One day they will send a "peacekeeping" force into the US, probably when there is a large riot of some sort. Then they will start to confiscate the small arms. Thats what SHTF means to me. UN = SH!T therefore UNHTF is appropriate also. View Quote Wonder which agency will help them. View Quote Better yet, I wonder which agencies will refuse? If any... |
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Gentlemen,
The United Nations is striving toward our goal of peace and harmony throughout the world. In order to facilitate this goal we must have the power to bring to justice those criminals who would act contrary to the laws of man. Government representatives who overstep these boundaries must be tried in an international court in order to receive true, fair and equitable justice. I applaud President George W. Bush on his decision to allow the United States to participate. Only through the actions of great leaders may the peoples of the world unite. Your great nation will continue to serve as a beacon of hope throughout the world. Further, I find the assertion of United Nations forces being utilized on United States soil laughable. The United Nations has no intent of invading the United States Of America for any purpose. Thank You. |
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Quoted: Gentlemen, The United Nations is striving toward our goal of peace and harmony throughout the world. In order to facilitate this goal we must have the power to bring to justice those criminals who would act contrary to the laws of man. Government representatives who overstep these boundaries must be tried in an international court in order to receive true, fair and equitable justice. I applaud President George W. Bush on his decision to allow the United States to participate. Only through the actions of great leaders may the peoples of the world unite. Your great nation will continue to serve as a beacon of hope throughout the world. Further, I find the assertion of United Nations forces being utilized on United States soil laughable. The United Nations has no intent of invading the United States Of America for any purpose. Thank You. View Quote Eh? are you kidding? |
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Quoted: Gentlemen, I find the assertion of United Nations forces being utilized on United States soil laughable. The United Nations has no intent of invading the United States Of America for any purpose. Thank You. View Quote I find it laughable as well. We'd be kicking your U.N. ass all over Texas! |
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Quoted: Quoted: Gentlemen, I find the assertion of United Nations forces being utilized on United States soil laughable. The United Nations has no intent of invading the United States Of America for any purpose. Thank You. View Quote I find it laughable as well. We'd be kicking your U.N. ass all over Texas! View Quote Alabama too!! Think the UN guys ever seen "Deliverance" "Squeal like a pig UN boy, Squeal!! Squeal!!" Not me I'm married..but there are some guys in Walker Co. that would have a field day with those pretty boys in blue hats. |
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Quoted: Quoted: What did they ride in during the Gulf War ? Our own vehicles. Are we a storage country for the UN as well ? View Quote That's right. During the Gulf War, US forces acted under their own command as part of a coalition, and so didn't need to repaint their vehicles, except to paint that "^" symbol on the side. In UN "peacekeeping" operations, all troops subordinate their national loyalties to that of the benevolent global peace overlords, and have to paint their vehicles to match each other. The French do this, the Brits do this and we do this. Once the units return from "peacekeeping" duty, they repaint their vehicles to the usual national paint scheme and throw away their powder blue helmets AKA target indicators. View Quote Exactly...Also, the Gulf War was a [b]combat operation[/b],...not a [b]peace keeping mission[/b]....So, of course the troops weren't sporting UN colors. Even if the UN [b]had[/b] been in command of our troops, they wouldn't ride into combat in [b]white vehicles that stick out like a sore thumb[/b] those pics of the "UN" vehicles on the back of the trucks went around here sometime last year. Someone researched the article they came from and found out it really said something about the equipment being enroute to a NG armory or something like that to be re-painted, and put back into service, after returning from UN service. [b]that being said[/b].....I agree, the USA should get the phuck [b]out[/b] of the UN. |
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So what are the chances of this being the end of Americans going on UN "peacekeepin" (=world government building) missions? My guess is with a spineless vote maximizer like bush (no caps on his name any more) in office is that we'll be seing americans before this court after a while. Fuck bush, fuck the UN, and fuck the evil NWO creeps puting these plans into action.
What the hell can the average guy do to counter stuff like this? Write letters (ha ha ha effective right) to our so called leaders? I'll choose to buy and cache more guns n ammo. |
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[flame] Quoted: Gentlemen, The United Nations is striving toward our goal of peace and harmony throughout the world. In order to facilitate this goal we must have the power to bring to justice those criminals who would act contrary to the laws of man. Government representatives who overstep these boundaries must be tried in an international court in order to receive true, fair and equitable justice. View Quote _______________________________________________________ Yea, the UN needs to expand it's chain of brothels and corrupt UN police will act as pimps. _________________________________________________ I applaud President George W. Bush on his decision to allow the United States to participate. Only through the actions of great leaders may the peoples of the world unite. Your great nation will continue to serve as a beacon of hope throughout the world. View Quote ______________________________________________________________________ We already do that. We do not needs any stinking lowlife corrupt bunch of Euro trash playing monday morning quarterback. _______________________________________________________________________ Further, I find the assertion of United Nations forces being utilized on United States soil laughable. The United Nations has no intent of invading the United States Of America for any purpose. View Quote _______________________________________________________________________ Well lets see, how many bridges do you think you can sell? Here's an idea, we'll bring the guns and ammo and you bring the targets. [heavy] _______________________________________________________________________ Thank You. View Quote |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Gentlemen, I find the assertion of United Nations forces being utilized on United States soil laughable. The United Nations has no intent of invading the United States Of America for any purpose. Thank You. View Quote I find it laughable as well. We'd be kicking your U.N. ass all over Texas! View Quote Alabama too!! Think the UN guys ever seen "Deliverance" "Squeal like a pig UN boy, Squeal!! Squeal!!" Not me I'm married..but there are some guys in Walker Co. that would have a field day with those pretty boys in blue hats. View Quote And those Californians who aren't busy buggering each other or tieing themselves to ancient redwood trees will help out too! Long live the Golden State! |
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Quoted: I say America can go it alone, only maintaining its NATO alliance (which is not UN). View Quote Actually, NATO is an affiliate of the UN. It was organized under the UN Charter(just look at the NATO treaty.) Quoted: So what are the chances of this being the end of Americans going on UN "peacekeepin" (=world government building) missions? My guess is with a spineless vote maximizer like bush (no caps on his name any more) in office is that we'll be seing americans before this court after a while. Fuck bush, fuck the UN, and fuck the evil NWO creeps puting these plans into action. What the hell can the average guy do to counter stuff like this? Write letters (ha ha ha effective right) to our so called leaders? I'll choose to buy and cache more guns n ammo. View Quote Here's a start: [url=http://www.getusout.com]Get US out, of the UN[/url] According to the recent issue of The New American, the Idaho GOP just passed a resolution urging their congressional delegation to get the US out of the UN. |
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Quoted: HAHAHA! Didn't I say that dubyah would "change" his mind about the ICC? .... View Quote Well, he has to be thinking about his place in history. |
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