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Posted: 7/6/2002 6:52:54 PM EDT
Anybody have any info on this?
I back Israel 100% but it can't stay that way if this is true.

[url]http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/7/2/180830.shtml[/url]
Link Posted: 7/6/2002 7:22:51 PM EDT
[#1]
Duh.

[url]http://www.warroom.com/china/arsenal.htm[/url]

Chinese fighters carry Israel´s potent Python 3 heat-seeking missile, a weapon painstakingly developed by Israel based on the venerable Sidewinder missile that the United States sold to the Jewish states decades ago, say former intelligence officials. Reconnaissance photographs of Chinese F-8 fighters intercepting, and in some cases harassing, U.S. patrol planes clearly show the fast, short-range Pythons affixed under the fighters´ wings.

[url]http://www.nti.org/db/china/imisr.htm[/url]

China's Missile Imports and Assistance From Israel

China's missile-related imports and assistance from Israel have been a subject of particular concern in the United States because of worries that Israel may be providing China with "back door" access to controlled, sensitive US technology. For example, in the early 1990s, reports surfaced that Israel had secretly transferred information on the US Patriot missile system to China, in violation of Israel's promise to the United States not to transfer the Patriot technology to any third country. Although both China and Israel denied the allegations, US government sources concluded that it was almost certain that a transfer of technology (though not physical equipment) had taken place.

[url]http://www.ety.com/HRP/pol/china.htm[/url]

"The Defense Intelligence Agency suspects Israel shared with China restricted U.S. weapons technology obtained during a joint U.S.-Israeli effort to build a battlefield laser gun," writes Gertz on Jan. 27. U.S. employees have twice "spotted Chinese technicians working secretly with one of the Israeli companies involved in the laser weapon program." A Chinese official in Israel exhibited hard knowledge of the super-secret program to build lasers to shoot down the Katyusha rockets used by Hezbollah on Israeli towns.

[url]http://www.taiwandc.org/twcom/89-no5.htm#notes[/url]

Israeli sale of long-range radar to China
In the beginning of November 1999, both the New York Times and Aviation Week and Space Technology reported that Israel was preparing to sell an advanced airborne radar system, Phalcon, to China. The system was being built into a Russian-built aircraft, which had arrived in Israel at the end of October 1999.

[url]http://www.globalcontrol.org.uk/page45.html[/url]

[An internal DIA memo] alleged that Israeli agents stole "proprietary information" from an Illianois optics firm in 1986 and test equipment for a radar system in the "mid-1980s." The memo also repeated previously publicised charges - denied by Israel and never officially proven by US investigators - that Israel may have provided China with sensitive fighter jet technology obtained from the United States.
Link Posted: 7/6/2002 7:23:27 PM EDT
[#2]
How [b]DARE[/b] you question anything that Israel does? Don't you know that Israel is guided in its decisions by The Lord and could never do anything wrong, evil, immoral, bad, harmful or in anyway meant to cause your trousers to fit too snugly or to make you stub your toe in the dark? Apologize right now, or the forces of righteousness will visit plagues of telemarketers, hot steering wheels, stripped phillips head screws, ice cream headaches and dead nine volt batteries upon you!

[b][size=6]ANTISEMITE![/size=6][/b]
(just thought I'd get that out of the way)

If we (Clinton) can sell the Chinese missile guidance technology, why can't the Israelis sell them missiles?
Link Posted: 7/6/2002 7:27:25 PM EDT
[#3]
Link Posted: 7/6/2002 7:30:31 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
What Jarhead_22 said.
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You might want to look up the meaning of the word "sarcasm", I'm sure I do detect a teeny weeny dose of it in Jarhead's post.

Oh, well, here, I'll save you time:

Pronunciation: 'sär-"ka-z&m
Function: noun
Etymology: French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwar&s- to cut
Date: 1550
1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
2 a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b : the use or language of sarcasm
Link Posted: 7/6/2002 7:33:00 PM EDT
[#5]
Klinton should have been tried and hanged for treason for selling that technology in return for dirty money for his campaign.
Link Posted: 7/6/2002 7:34:50 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Duh.
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Heh, Heh. Brief and to the point.
Link Posted: 7/6/2002 7:36:48 PM EDT
[#7]
Link Posted: 7/6/2002 7:39:26 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
You might want to look up the meaning of the word "sarcasm", I'm sure I do detect a teeny weeny dose of it in Jarhead's post.
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Actually, I was going for irony.
Link Posted: 7/6/2002 7:48:18 PM EDT
[#9]
Now this is a funny thread.
Link Posted: 7/6/2002 8:32:06 PM EDT
[#10]
Was this "new" news to some folks?
Link Posted: 7/6/2002 10:11:14 PM EDT
[#11]
Of course they do.  They are not our allies.  We do not have any allies.  We will keep getting "prison loved" as long as we allow it.

As far as the U.S.A. and Israel go:

Israel - Could you pass me a beer?

U.S.A. - I think we're out of beer.

[i]Israel bitch-slaps U.S.A. till dawn...[/i]

U.S.A. - You did a bad thing, and I'm leaving you.

Israel - Come on, you know I love you baby...but sometimes you...you just...I'm sorry...

U.S.A. - You always say that...

Israel - But this time it's different!  I mean it!  I love you!  I won't hit you again...

U.S.A. - Okay, whatever you say.  I love you too.  I'm sorry.
Link Posted: 7/6/2002 11:07:52 PM EDT
[#12]
Certainly a unique way of looking at it, Chimbo. [:)]
Link Posted: 7/7/2002 12:25:11 PM EDT
[#13]
No this is not new news and no it's not a joke.
I know Chia has weapons from everybody just about but what I want to know is there evidence that the Israelis still sale to China.

ilikelegs,I am knee deep in every anti-jew/anti-Israeli topic on this site  on the side of the Israelis.

The fact that they have sold weapons to China like we,the UK and Russia has is not what makes me mad it's if they still sale to them.
This goes for anybody that would sale weapons to China now,China is how the Taliban gets wepons and if you help them thats an act of war.

Link Posted: 7/7/2002 2:01:00 PM EDT
[#14]
Up once more, for good measure.
Link Posted: 7/8/2002 6:01:15 AM EDT
[#15]
Apparently they were doing business with Milosevic too:

But most purchases were made with four Israeli companies that produce so- called dual-use (having both civilian and military applications) items as armored plating and night-vision equipment.

The companies include Elop, specializing in optical systems; Noga Lite, a privately owned maker of night vision equipment; Afid SPE, which supplies goggles; and MDT Protective Industries, an armor plate maker.

The precise implementation of U.N. embargoes is left up to individual governments, and some critics say that Israel is overly flexible in its interpretation.

[red]"Israeli companies are in the forefront of dealing arms to basically anybody. Countries that are at war, countries with human rights violations, countries with all kinds of problems," said Siemon Wezeman, an arms specialist with the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.[/red]

Israel's Defense Department dismisses such characterizations as "totally and unforgivably false" and insists that it rigorously examines each export application.

"Each request is checked for various aspects -- political and international commitments of the state of Israel, legal, security and technology aspects," said department spokeswoman Rachel Naidek Ashkenazi. "Israel adheres to international embargoes imposed by the U.N. and other international entities."

Nevertheless, the U.N. report says that Milosevic's front companies did do business with Israeli firms in the year before the 1999 NATO intervention in Kosovo. At least 14 such transactions took place in the 12 months after the March 1998 sanctions.
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[url]http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2002/07/02/MN75061.DTL[/url]
Link Posted: 7/8/2002 11:33:42 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Apparently they were doing business with Milosevic too:
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You were warned. Don't be surprised when you start getting paper cuts, scratched CDs and lotto numbers one digit off from the winner now.
Link Posted: 7/9/2002 4:08:16 AM EDT
[#17]
Wallyworld backs chicoms.
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