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Posted: 3/5/2012 8:41:54 PM EDT

[#1]

I'm still waiting to see someone link two ARs together via the rail system.

Posted: 3/5/2012 8:42:57 PM EDT

[#2]

Quoted:
I'm still waiting to see someone link two ARs together via the rail system.

A quad coupler? Hmmm

Posted: 3/5/2012 8:43:09 PM EDT

[#3]

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The only quad rails I can't stand are these:

http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/j4enh.r2en5/v/vspfiles/photos/BCM-URG-M4-14%20RISIIFSP%20DE%20A2X-6.jpg

Okay, why is there rail in front of the front sight?

I think that set-up is awesome.

I'm not going to build one like it, but its still cool.

Fuck yeah its cool... Mount a surefire X300 on the end and its my ideal setup.

Posted: 3/5/2012 8:43:55 PM EDT

[#4]

Rolling stock leaving Leupold tunnel by Ry Jones, on Flickr

haters gonna hate

Rolling stock on Bushmaster siding by Ry Jones, on Flickr

Posted: 3/5/2012 8:45:47 PM EDT

[#5]

I like full length quad rails in alot of applications. Not all, but quite a few. I havea 12" Omega on a 14.5" midlength and it lets me put my hand where I want it along with my other gear. Inidently I'm not using most of the rail right now because I moved my M951 to my SBR. Its nice being able to adjust your gear without having to move your rails somewhere else on your tube. The Omega is also very skinny, once you start putting the rail sections on your TRX extreme or SS rails it starts getting kinda fat.

I don't like the big YHM rails, they're too big around. For my 6.8 I put an 11" TRX extreme rail on it without any additional panels. Its more of a hunting rig, and I don't see a need for a VFG on it.

I'm used to the big chease graters though. I never bothered putting panels on my issue M16A4. I'm normally wearing gloves when I'm shooting anyways.

To each his own I guess.

Posted: 3/5/2012 8:45:51 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryjones/3409852929/" target="_blank">http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3300/3409852929_2679c73c19.jpg</a>
Rolling stock leaving Leupold tunnel by Ry Jones, on Flickr

haters gonna hate

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryjones/3409853035/" target="_blank">http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3630/3409853035_dec80ab07d.jpg</a>
Rolling stock on Bushmaster siding by Ry Jones, on Flickr

WIN!

Posted: 3/5/2012 8:46:31 PM EDT

[#7]

Damn my rifles are all confused...I'm surprised they get along in the safe so well...

Posted: 3/5/2012 8:49:34 PM EDT

[#8]

I agree and run an MFR.

Posted: 3/5/2012 8:49:55 PM EDT

[#9]

I did mine as mid and carbine length look goofy with a suppressor attached IMO

Posted: 3/5/2012 8:52:19 PM EDT

[#10]

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I like them.

Try mounting a pvs22 or pvs-27 on a short rail in front of a 5-25x day optic.

Why would one need quad rails to do that? Why wouldn't something with a full length top rail suffice?

BTW: The AK guy I mention above was a walking joke. In addition to his vertical foregrip, his bipod, and his hand stop, he had a laser on one side, a light on the other side, and a red dot mounted on the top.

PEQ laser illumination on side.

Ir led illumination on other side.

Bipod on bottom with vfg and pressure switches.

Tacticool midget to carry from truck to blind.

Posted: 3/5/2012 8:53:14 PM EDT

[#11]

Hi, I'm the OP. Because I don't understand the purpose of a full length quad rail, I have a seething dislike for them. Based upon my limited observation of jokers at the range, I can only assume there is no point to them. I've never heard of SOPMOD Block II. There is no way that most of these parts are designed for something more than shooting off a bench. I can't undersatnd why one may need real estate for different light setups, both white and IR, VFGs, lasers and switches.

Posted: 3/5/2012 8:56:09 PM EDT

[#12]

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The only quad rails I can't stand are these:

http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/j4enh.r2en5/v/vspfiles/photos/BCM-URG-M4-14%20RISIIFSP%20DE%20A2X-6.jpg

Okay, why is there rail in front of the front sight?

To mount a light at 12 out front of the FSB where it won't give you shadow and it works well going around corners either way.... Also allows for the extended arm grip with a carbine gas system and standard FSB.

And no effin' way. Next rail I get it one of those. I like standard FSBs, I think they are more robust and I like having my 1/3 cowitness always in field of view. Thats an awesome rail. Probably the best thought out rail currently out there IMO.

Can someone post me a picture of what someone using this "extended arm grip" looks like?

Posted: 3/5/2012 8:58:35 PM EDT

[#13]

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Hi, I'm the OP. Because I don't understand the purpose of a full length quad rail, I have a seething dislike for them. Based upon my limited observation of jokers at the range, I can only assume there is no point to them. I've never heard of SOPMOD Block II. There is no way that most of these parts are designed for something more than shooting off a bench. I can't undersatnd why one may need real estate for different light setups, both white and IR, VFGs, lasers and switches.

Hi. I'm your typical GD slug. I load my rifle with junk that costs more than my monthly house payment because it looks cool as hell. I will never use it for anything but shooting off a bench in perfect daylight weather and cringe at the thought of begging battery money from the wife.

I dream for the day someone invents a beer coozie that takes a rail.

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:00:37 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
..... I've never heard of SOPMOD Block II. .....

OK, you never hearing about it means what?

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:01:39 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:

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Hi, I'm the OP. Because I don't understand the purpose of a full length quad rail, I have a seething dislike for them. Based upon my limited observation of jokers at the range, I can only assume there is no point to them. I've never heard of SOPMOD Block II. There is no way that most of these parts are designed for something more than shooting off a bench. I can't undersatnd why one may need real estate for different light setups, both white and IR, VFGs, lasers and switches.

Hi. I'm your typical GD slug. I load my rifle with junk that costs more than my monthly house payment because it looks cool as hell. I will never use it for anything but shooting off a bench in perfect daylight weather and cringe at the thought of begging battery money from the wife.

I dream for the day someone invents a beer coozie that takes a rail.

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:02:38 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
Hi, I'm the OP. Because I don't understand the purpose of a full length quad rail, I have a seething dislike for them. Based upon my limited observation of jokers at the range, I can only assume there is no point to them. I've never heard of SOPMOD Block II. There is no way that most of these parts are designed for something more than shooting off a bench. I can't undersatnd why one may need real estate for different light setups, both white and IR, VFGs, lasers and switches.

Last time I checked the SOPMOD did not have a FULL LENGTH quad rail setup. Its been a while since I looked though.

Which is the point of my post and the aspect I'm puzzled about.

But thanks for playing.

ETA: And yeah, if you're reenacting "issue" equipment, then cool... just say "I'm duplicating an issue set up"

But for a weekend plinker...

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:04:03 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:

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The only quad rails I can't stand are these:

http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/j4enh.r2en5/v/vspfiles/photos/BCM-URG-M4-14%20RISIIFSP%20DE%20A2X-6.jpg

Okay, why is there rail in front of the front sight?

for a weapon mounted light ala tlr1 or surefire. allows ambidextrous control of said light

additionally, in a CQB scenario, it lowers your profile whilst holding a door.

thats why

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:04:52 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:

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Hi, I'm the OP. Because I don't understand the purpose of a full length quad rail, I have a seething dislike for them. Based upon my limited observation of jokers at the range, I can only assume there is no point to them. I've never heard of SOPMOD Block II. There is no way that most of these parts are designed for something more than shooting off a bench. I can't undersatnd why one may need real estate for different light setups, both white and IR, VFGs, lasers and switches.

Last time I checked the SOPMOD did not have a FULL LENGTH quad rail setup.

Which is the point of my post and the aspect I'm puzzled about.

But thanks for playing.

Like this one?

Or even these ones?
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/541606_M4A1_SOPMOD_Block_II_clone_picture_thread.html

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:05:20 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:

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The only quad rails I can't stand are these:

http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/j4enh.r2en5/v/vspfiles/photos/BCM-URG-M4-14%20RISIIFSP%20DE%20A2X-6.jpg

Okay, why is there rail in front of the front sight?

for a weapon mounted light ala tlr1 or surefire. allows ambidextrous control of said light

additionally, in a CQB scenario, it lowers your profile whilst holding a door.

thats why

Ahh, i can see why some guy working in a cubicle needs one.

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:06:29 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Hi, I'm the OP. Because I don't understand the purpose of a full length quad rail, I have a seething dislike for them. Based upon my limited observation of jokers at the range, I can only assume there is no point to them. I've never heard of SOPMOD Block II. There is no way that most of these parts are designed for something more than shooting off a bench. I can't undersatnd why one may need real estate for different light setups, both white and IR, VFGs, lasers and switches.

Last time I checked the SOPMOD did not have a FULL LENGTH quad rail setup.

Which is the point of my post and the aspect I'm puzzled about.

But thanks for playing.

Like this one?

http://spartanat.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/102_0072.jpg

Or even these ones?
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/541606_M4A1_SOPMOD_Block_II_clone_picture_thread.html

I stand corrected... obviously. Was it the Block 1 the version that used the carbine length rail?

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:06:43 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Hi, I'm the OP. Because I don't understand the purpose of a full length quad rail, I have a seething dislike for them. Based upon my limited observation of jokers at the range, I can only assume there is no point to them. I've never heard of SOPMOD Block II. There is no way that most of these parts are designed for something more than shooting off a bench. I can't undersatnd why one may need real estate for different light setups, both white and IR, VFGs, lasers and switches.

Last time I checked the SOPMOD did not have a FULL LENGTH quad rail setup. Its been a while since I looked though.

Which is the point of my post and the aspect I'm puzzled about.

But thanks for playing.

ETA: And yeah, if you're reenacting "issue" equipment, then cool... just say "I'm duplicating an issue set up"

But for a weekend plinker...

ETA: damn that was quick

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:06:43 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Hi, I'm the OP. Because I don't understand the purpose of a full length quad rail, I have a seething dislike for them. Based upon my limited observation of jokers at the range, I can only assume there is no point to them. I've never heard of SOPMOD Block II. There is no way that most of these parts are designed for something more than shooting off a bench. I can't undersatnd why one may need real estate for different light setups, both white and IR, VFGs, lasers and switches.

Last time I checked the SOPMOD did not have a FULL LENGTH quad rail setup. Its been a while since I looked though.

Which is the point of my post and the aspect I'm puzzled about.

But thanks for playing.

ETA: And yeah, if you're reenacting "issue" equipment, then cool... just say "I'm duplicating an issue set up"

But for a weekend plinker...

You're right, they absolutely don't.

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:07:30 PM EDT

[#23]

Lol, we all went right to that pic.

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:08:04 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:

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The only quad rails I can't stand are these:

http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/j4enh.r2en5/v/vspfiles/photos/BCM-URG-M4-14%20RISIIFSP%20DE%20A2X-6.jpg

Okay, why is there rail in front of the front sight?

for a weapon mounted light ala tlr1 or surefire. allows ambidextrous control of said light

additionally, in a CQB scenario, it lowers your profile whilst holding a door.

thats why

Ahh, i can see why some guy working in a cubicle needs one.

cubicles and like every other form of cover evar. yes

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:10:57 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Hi, I'm the OP. Because I don't understand the purpose of a full length quad rail, I have a seething dislike for them. Based upon my limited observation of jokers at the range, I can only assume there is no point to them. I've never heard of SOPMOD Block II. There is no way that most of these parts are designed for something more than shooting off a bench. I can't undersatnd why one may need real estate for different light setups, both white and IR, VFGs, lasers and switches.

Last time I checked the SOPMOD did not have a FULL LENGTH quad rail setup. Its been a while since I looked though.

Which is the point of my post and the aspect I'm puzzled about.

But thanks for playing.

ETA: And yeah, if you're reenacting "issue" equipment, then cool... just say "I'm duplicating an issue set up"

But for a weekend plinker...

http://spartanat.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/102_0072.jpg

You're right, they absolutely don't.

LOL... yeah, cranial rectal inversion. My brother had a SOPMOD clone that had only carbine length rails. I guess I'm just not up on the latest and greatest.

So, we have established one very particularized reason for the full length quad rail: To duplicate a particular configuration of kit issued to the boys. That's good enough for me, I guess so far as that goes. Goodness knows as soon as I get all the parts, I'll have an 'nam era configuration in my safe.

But aside from issue equipment reenactors... I still don't get the full rail thing.

Meh.

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:12:14 PM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The only quad rails I can't stand are these:

http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/j4enh.r2en5/v/vspfiles/photos/BCM-URG-M4-14%20RISIIFSP%20DE%20A2X-6.jpg

Okay, why is there rail in front of the front sight?

for a weapon mounted light ala tlr1 or surefire. allows ambidextrous control of said light

additionally, in a CQB scenario, it lowers your profile whilst holding a door.

thats why

Ahh, i can see why some guy working in a cubicle needs one.

cubicles and like every other form of cover evar. yes

A cubicle is not cover.

It's concealment.

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:13:35 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The only quad rails I can't stand are these:

http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/j4enh.r2en5/v/vspfiles/photos/BCM-URG-M4-14%20RISIIFSP%20DE%20A2X-6.jpg

Okay, why is there rail in front of the front sight?

for a weapon mounted light ala tlr1 or surefire. allows ambidextrous control of said light

additionally, in a CQB scenario, it lowers your profile whilst holding a door.

thats why

Ahh, i can see why some guy working in a cubicle needs one.

cubicles and like every other form of cover evar. yes

A cubicle is not cover.

It's concealment.

I heard magpul was coming out with lvl 4 multi hit stand alone cubicle panels. Thats some hot shit right there.

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:15:06 PM EDT

[#28]

Whatever.

Work in progress.

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:17:24 PM EDT

[#29]

my ARs are again out of style

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:18:15 PM EDT

[#30]

Real men don't need rails or hand guards, they grab the barrel with their bare hands

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:19:05 PM EDT

[#31]

Carbine length handguards with a FSB feel short as hell to me now.

My 18.5" precision rig wears a VTAC wrapped in camoform though.

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:38:34 PM EDT

[#32]

This thread is as stupid as the 'why build 'cheap' AR15s' thread.

And since they make you so angry and disgusted, here's mine

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:40:30 PM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Hi, I'm the OP. Because I don't understand the purpose of a full length quad rail, I have a seething dislike for them. Based upon my limited observation of jokers at the range, I can only assume there is no point to them. I've never heard of SOPMOD Block II. There is no way that most of these parts are designed for something more than shooting off a bench. I can't undersatnd why one may need real estate for different light setups, both white and IR, VFGs, lasers and switches.

Last time I checked the SOPMOD did not have a FULL LENGTH quad rail setup. Its been a while since I looked though.

Which is the point of my post and the aspect I'm puzzled about.

But thanks for playing.

ETA: And yeah, if you're reenacting "issue" equipment, then cool... just say "I'm duplicating an issue set up"

But for a weekend plinker...

http://spartanat.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/102_0072.jpg

You're right, they absolutely don't.

LOL... yeah, cranial rectal inversion. My brother had a SOPMOD clone that had only carbine length rails. I guess I'm just not up on the latest and greatest.

So, we have established one very particularized reason for the full length quad rail: To duplicate a particular configuration of kit issued to the boys. That's good enough for me, I guess so far as that goes. Goodness knows as soon as I get all the parts, I'll have an 'nam era configuration in my safe.

But aside from issue equipment reenactors... I still don't get the full rail thing.

Meh.

So the fact that it's a military issue setup doesn't make you think "maybe there actually is something to this"?

Maybe you should have specified that you think civilians have no need for full length quad rails.

Because clearly, they're not pointless.

Now go play with the other kids. Dinner will be ready in an hour.

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:43:08 PM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:
I'm still waiting to see someone link two ARs together via the rail system.

It will be a "game changer"

I have a full length rail system with nothing on. It's my money and I like the way it looks. So what.

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:43:23 PM EDT

[#35]

Yes.

/thread

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:44:06 PM EDT

[#36]

Yup, just put a TROY rail on my .308 and now I hate my DD rail on the .223

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:44:23 PM EDT

[#37]

You know what I really hate? Those yahoos who put optics on their ARs. Why is the carry handle not good enough for them? I just don't get the point of sticking something like one of those EOTek things or scopes on something thats just a glorified 22. Save the scopes for the bolt guns, ya internet wannabes.

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:52:22 PM EDT

[#38]

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You know what I really hate? Those yahoos who put optics on their ARs. Why is the carry handle not good enough for them? I just don't get the point of sticking something like one of those EOTek things or scopes on something thats just a glorified 22. Save the scopes for the bolt guns, ya internet wannabes.

Man, me too. Even more so, those damn fools that buy AR15s. Why do you need 30 rounds and semi auto when all you're gonna do is sit on a bench in nice weather.

I mean, how many of those idiots are ever going to use all those damn bullets? I get it I guess if you're into re-enacting military kit, but other than that? Stupid.

Ohh... wait... That's right, this thread is dildos.

Posted: 3/5/2012 9:54:04 PM EDT

[#39]

I like the look

I like the the way it feels

I like the longer sight radius

I like the fact that I'll have plenty of room to attach accessories should I ever feel the need to

Haters keep hating - I couldn't afford any more if they became the next big thing

Posted: 3/5/2012 10:10:40 PM EDT

[#40]

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FF tubes make great handwarmers in the winter.

Full length rails are tarded.

Customizable rails are probably the best option.

That's why I opted for this:

Posted: 3/5/2012 10:21:52 PM EDT

[#41]

cause it's nice to be able to put ure shit where you want it and make adjustments without removing a bunch of tiny screws

that is why professionals have rails

Posted: 3/5/2012 10:46:49 PM EDT

[#42]

I'm afraid of posting my rifles in a dinner pic because I bought them a few years ago and FF quad rails are out of style. I don't want to get made fun of...

Posted: 3/5/2012 10:58:10 PM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0

yep

Those rails were most likely made for people who actually needed lasers, lights, Clip on NVG, Bipod, BUIS, and VFG.

ETA and just because

Posted: 3/5/2012 11:26:45 PM EDT

[#44]

i think they look weird, but i don't judge. i have a middy-4, and some people complain about that. don't know why they give a shit about my rifle.

Posted: 3/5/2012 11:27:14 PM EDT

[#45]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The only quad rails I can't stand are these:

http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/j4enh.r2en5/v/vspfiles/photos/BCM-URG-M4-14%20RISIIFSP%20DE%20A2X-6.jpg

Okay, why is there rail in front of the front sight?

Current train of thought is that is where a weapon mounted light should be.

Posted: 3/5/2012 11:28:07 PM EDT

[#46]

Well I'm not exactly a big rail-rifle fan myself...

But as long as they aren't spending my money on their rails, I don't care.

Posted: 3/5/2012 11:29:46 PM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:

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The only quad rails I can't stand are these:

http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/j4enh.r2en5/v/vspfiles/photos/BCM-URG-M4-14%20RISIIFSP%20DE%20A2X-6.jpg

Okay, why is there rail in front of the front sight?

Current train of thought is that is where a weapon mounted light should be.

Where the hell do you put the bayonet?

Posted: 3/5/2012 11:37:06 PM EDT

[#48]

Quoted:

Well I'm not exactly a big rail-rifle fan myself...

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n171/Der_Hans/P1010002-1-1.jpg

But as long as they aren't spending my money on their rails, I don't care.

are those the new magpul triangular rail covers? i gots to order some!