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Posted: 2/18/2012 7:35:56 AM EDT
A Mexican soldier stands guard at a marijuana field, in Los Algodones community, Culiacan, Sinaloa State, Mexico on January 30, 2012. Magazine looks long. Is it a H&K 33 with rail? |
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Posted: 2/18/2012 7:38:13 AM EDT
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No, it's an ATF rifle.
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Posted: 2/18/2012 7:38:58 AM EDT
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According to Wikipedia the Mexican military uses the following assault rfiles:
H&K G33 - 5.56mm 
M4 - 5.56mm 
FX-05 Xiuhcoatl (Fire Serpent)- 5.56mm A unlicensed/reverse engineered rip off of a H&K G36 |
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Posted: 2/18/2012 7:50:55 AM EDT
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Its some form of a SAW. You can tell by the butt stock and and magazine on the side.
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Posted: 2/18/2012 7:53:48 AM EDT
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Its some form of a SAW. You can tell by the butt stock and and magazine on the side. That's what I am thinking. It has the para kit buttstock on it. |
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Posted: 2/18/2012 7:55:21 AM EDT
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Its some form of a SAW. You can tell by the butt stock and and magazine on the side. That's what I am thinking. It has the para kit buttstock on it. Looks like a .308 belt draped over his shoulder. He has another weapon slung over his back as well. |
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Posted: 2/18/2012 7:56:59 AM EDT
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SAW Para with 40 round stanag
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Posted: 2/18/2012 7:57:36 AM EDT
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Its some form of a SAW. You can tell by the butt stock and and magazine on the side. That's what I am thinking. It has the para kit buttstock on it. Yes, it is just at a funny angle. |
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Posted: 2/18/2012 7:57:37 AM EDT
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According to Wikipedia the Mexican military uses the following assault rfiles: <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/hkg33a2assaultrifle.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/9669/hkg33a2assaultrifle.jpg</a> H&K G33 - 5.56mm <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/13018036.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4880/13018036.jpg</a> M4 - 5.56mm <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/830/fx05xiuhcoatl.png/" target="_blank">http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/8066/fx05xiuhcoatl.png</a> <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/259/fx051.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8270/fx051.jpg</a> FX-05 Xiuhcoatl (Fire Serpent)- 5.56mm A unlicensed/reverse engineered rip off of a H&K G36 
I thought H&K was content that it wasn't a copy after all. Do you have any different information? |
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Posted: 2/18/2012 7:59:46 AM EDT
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Looks to me like an Ollie North Special that exchanged hands and had a gay stock put on it.
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Posted: 2/18/2012 8:01:46 AM EDT
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According to Wikipedia the Mexican military uses the following assault rfiles: <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/hkg33a2assaultrifle.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/9669/hkg33a2assaultrifle.jpg</a> H&K G33 - 5.56mm <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/13018036.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4880/13018036.jpg</a> M4 - 5.56mm <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/830/fx05xiuhcoatl.png/" target="_blank">http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/8066/fx05xiuhcoatl.png</a> <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/259/fx051.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8270/fx051.jpg</a> FX-05 Xiuhcoatl (Fire Serpent)- 5.56mm A unlicensed/reverse engineered rip off of a H&K G36
I thought H&K was content that it wasn't a copy after all. Do you have any different information? The receivers are identical. Yes you are right H&K didn't sue. Content or paid off? |
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Posted: 2/18/2012 8:04:41 AM EDT
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Its some form of a SAW. You can tell by the butt stock and and magazine on the side. That's what I am thinking. It has the para kit buttstock on it. Looks like a .308 belt draped over his shoulder. He has another weapon slung over his back as well. If it ain't an M249/Minimi then I don't have the foggiest idea of what it would be... |
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Posted: 2/18/2012 8:09:35 AM EDT
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Its some form of a SAW. You can tell by the butt stock and and magazine on the side. That's what I am thinking. It has the para kit buttstock on it. Looks like a .308 belt draped over his shoulder. He has another weapon slung over his back as well. If it ain't an M249/Minimi then I don't have the foggiest idea of what it would be... I agree with you that what we can see of the stock looks like a M249 para stock. 
But I think it is some sort of H&K magazine fed 5.56mm Machinegun like the H&K13E with a para-stock. That magazine looks like a 5.56mm 40 rounder to me. It does NOT look like it is oriented out the left side of the magazine port of a M249. Further more the front end and barrel area just don't look like a M249., too long and slender. |
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Posted: 2/18/2012 8:11:41 AM EDT
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It's the gun that Al Pacino...
...NVM. 
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Posted: 2/18/2012 8:12:24 AM EDT
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Its a side-fed magazine weapon, I'm assuming an M249 or derivative. Look at where his hand is, and the pistol grip is pointing directly at the camera.
Looks like an MP5 or other 90-series HK on his back. The dude could be really short, I bet that's a belt of 5.56 around his neck Kharn |
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Posted: 2/18/2012 8:15:36 AM EDT
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Its a side-fed magazine weapon, I'm assuming an M249 or derivative. Look at where his hand is, and the pistol grip is pointing directly at the camera. Looks like an MP5 or other 90-series HK on his back. The dude could be really short, I bet that's a belt of 5.56 around his neck Kharn You are right I didn't notice the position of his hand on the pistol grip. It is a M249 para-stock with the short barrel with 40 round magazine. I only ever got SAW to feed from 30 round USGI magazines that were brand new with the green followers. As in fresh out of the plastic wrapper brand new. I hated the short SAW barrels because they blow gas and debris back in your face when firing from the prone. |
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Posted: 2/18/2012 8:16:37 AM EDT
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I agree that it does look like a 40 rnd mag and it looks a little "off" for a 249. However, when I look at the pistol grip, charging handle, and bipod position I am still temped to say that it is some sort of Minimi variant.
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Posted: 2/18/2012 8:18:10 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Its some form of a SAW. You can tell by the butt stock and and magazine on the side. That's what I am thinking. It has the para kit buttstock on it. +1, its an M-249 para saw with a 40 round mag. From the angle of the picture you are seeing the bottom of it; charging handle on the right side, mag well on the left at an angle. If you look closely you can see the bottom of the pistol grip with the trap door compartment. Handguard does look weird though. |
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Posted: 2/18/2012 8:18:22 AM EDT
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Don't know what it is but I'm sure it was purchased at a Texas gun show.
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Posted: 2/18/2012 8:18:26 AM EDT
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Para Minimi
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Posted: 2/18/2012 8:23:18 AM EDT
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It's an M249 para.
You can see the bi-pod. I have no clue why he is feeding it via box magazine. 
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Posted: 2/18/2012 8:24:48 AM EDT
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Quoted: According to Wikipedia the Mexican military uses the following assault rfiles: http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/9669/hkg33a2assaultrifle.jpg H&K G33 - 5.56mm http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4880/13018036.jpg M4 - 5.56mm http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/8066/fx05xiuhcoatl.png http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8270/fx051.jpg FX-05 Xiuhcoatl (Fire Serpent)- 5.56mm A unlicensed/reverse engineered rip off of a H&K G36  Wow, that thing is as ugly as homemade sin.  |
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Posted: 2/18/2012 8:39:55 AM EDT
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According to Wikipedia the Mexican military uses the following assault rfiles: <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/hkg33a2assaultrifle.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/9669/hkg33a2assaultrifle.jpg</a> H&K G33 - 5.56mm <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/13018036.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4880/13018036.jpg</a> M4 - 5.56mm <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/830/fx05xiuhcoatl.png/" target="_blank">http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/8066/fx05xiuhcoatl.png</a> <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/259/fx051.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8270/fx051.jpg</a> FX-05 Xiuhcoatl (Fire Serpent)- 5.56mm A unlicensed/reverse engineered rip off of a H&K G36
I thought H&K was content that it wasn't a copy after all. Do you have any different information? The receivers are identical. Yes you are right H&K didn't sue. Content or paid off? AFAIK H&K didn't receive any money. They looked at the internals and declared that it was a different design despite the superficial similarities. |
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