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Posted: 1/6/2012 10:42:12 AM EDT
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The Iranian navy
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Posted: 1/6/2012 10:44:58 AM EDT
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The oil companies. They have us by the balls and they want more record profit.
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Posted: 1/6/2012 10:45:44 AM EDT
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7m3 got a hooker on Tues it sounds like.
Screwed everything up. |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 10:46:44 AM EDT
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The Iranian navy http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_lHjnoEO3vOM/TF-8AwTj17I/AAAAAAAAAeU/l_jf8pqM9nw/s320/Gadir+midget+sub.jpg http://middle-east-news-in-depth.com/img/ghadir-sub.jpg Thats so cute... Does it use AAA Lithium's? |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 10:49:18 AM EDT
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The Iranian navy http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_lHjnoEO3vOM/TF-8AwTj17I/AAAAAAAAAeU/l_jf8pqM9nw/s320/Gadir+midget+sub.jpg http://middle-east-news-in-depth.com/img/ghadir-sub.jpg Thats so cute... Does it use AAA Lithium's? No. The HOOT torpedo. |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 10:50:04 AM EDT
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Quoted: The oil companies. They have us by the balls and they want more record profit. No. Oil is only up $5/barrel Sherlock. It has been pretty stable for 3 years. Ethanol subsidy is ending/being changed and Hormuz probably has more to do with it. |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 10:54:18 AM EDT
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Retail price is most influenced by the status of pipeline terminal inventory. Inventory going up means prices dropping. Inventory going down, prices rise.
Very simple. With more refined product being exported (due to decreasing demand), inventory will be going down (not that pipeline end terminals actually export, they just compete with dockside export terminals). You are competing with South America. |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 10:56:27 AM EDT
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Quoted: The Iranian navy http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_lHjnoEO3vOM/TF-8AwTj17I/AAAAAAAAAeU/l_jf8pqM9nw/s320/Gadir+midget+sub.jpg http://middle-east-news-in-depth.com/img/ghadir-sub.jpg HOLY SHIT!!! I used to have one of those!  Came in a cereal box, and you would add baking soda, and it would go all up and down in my bathtub!  |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 10:56:43 AM EDT
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Quoted: Retail price is most influenced by the status of pipeline terminal inventory. Inventory going up means prices dropping. Inventory going down, prices rise. Very simple. With more refined product being exported (due to decreasing demand), inventory will be going down (not that pipeline end terminals actually export, they just compete with dockside export terminals). You are competing with South America. 
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Posted: 1/6/2012 11:00:25 AM EDT
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The Iranian navy http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_lHjnoEO3vOM/TF-8AwTj17I/AAAAAAAAAeU/l_jf8pqM9nw/s320/Gadir+midget+sub.jpg http://middle-east-news-in-depth.com/img/ghadir-sub.jpg HOLY SHIT!!! I used to have one of those!
Came in a cereal box, and you would add baking soda, and it would go all up and down in my bathtub!
I think you mean Baking Powder. I am quite a bathtub Submariner. wait. That didn't come out right. 
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Posted: 1/6/2012 11:04:31 AM EDT
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Still down here....CA....are you looking at EIA site stats or just yer local station prices?
http://205.254.135.7/oog/info/twip/twip_gasoline.html Supply and price on a national weekly basis, not filtered through your newspaper or TV. |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 11:06:24 AM EDT
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$3.53 around these parts
 And my fucking truck needs gas
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Posted: 1/6/2012 11:07:12 AM EDT
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Quoted: $3.53 around these parts And my fucking truck needs gasThis is why I drive a 5spd Focus. 42mpg save $$$. |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 11:09:38 AM EDT
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We're so flush with gas we're exporting it like never before. That seems to suggest that we have more product than demand domestically. Prices should be low, very low. When gas was in shorter supply, prices were actually lower. So, what's different? Obviously supply/demand isn't the culprit. Speculation is driving the prices, has been for a long time, but for some reason ARFcommers don't want to hear that. It's the only constant at play when other factors contradict each other. |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 11:09:39 AM EDT
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$3.53 around these parts And my fucking truck needs gasThis is why I drive a 5spd Focus. 42mpg save $$$. That ain't the worst part! The wife's ride has to have premium damn gas! |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 11:10:44 AM EDT
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We're so flush with gas we're exporting it like never before. That seems to suggest that we have more product than demand domestically. Prices should be low, very low. When gas was in shorter supply, prices were actually lower. So, what's different? Obviously supply/demand isn't the culprit. Speculation is driving the prices, has been for a long time, but for some reason ARFcommers don't want to hear that. It's the only constant at play when other factors contradict each other. Yeah, my Dad lives in Toledo and is always texting me the low gas prices. He just came down here for a visit and was  about our prices.
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Posted: 1/6/2012 11:11:13 AM EDT
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Quoted: We're so flush with gas we're exporting it like never before. That seems to suggest that we have more product than demand domestically. Prices should be low, very low. When gas was in shorter supply, prices were actually lower. So, what's different? Obviously supply/demand isn't the culprit. Speculation is driving the prices, has been for a long time, but for some reason ARFcommers don't want to hear that. It's the only constant at play when other factors contradict each other. Gas taxes as well. They keep tacking shit on from the production to the pump, and then blame teh evil corporations. |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 11:11:42 AM EDT
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$3.00 to $3.15 in a week here.
I guess they were afraid it would go below $3.00 a gallon. 
More of that non-existent inflation. 
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Posted: 1/6/2012 11:11:52 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: $3.53 around these parts And my fucking truck needs gasThis is why I drive a 5spd Focus. 42mpg save $$$. That ain't the worst part! The wife's ride has to have premium damn gas! If I could get Ethanol free gas I would and be more efficient. |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 11:12:27 AM EDT
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Bush and his oil buddies... Oh, wait...
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Posted: 1/6/2012 11:12:48 AM EDT
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We're so flush with gas we're exporting it like never before. That seems to suggest that we have more product than demand domestically. Prices should be low, very low. When gas was in shorter supply, prices were actually lower. So, what's different? Obviously supply/demand isn't the culprit. Speculation is driving the prices, has been for a long time, but for some reason ARFcommers don't want to hear that. It's the only constant at play when other factors contradict each other. That ain't no fuckin joke. 
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Posted: 1/6/2012 11:13:17 AM EDT
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the greedy always need more.
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Posted: 1/6/2012 11:15:13 AM EDT
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Quoted: the greedy always need more. And who is the zeitgeist this time? |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 11:16:04 AM EDT
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We're so flush with gas we're exporting it like never before. That seems to suggest that we have more product than demand domestically. Prices should be low, very low. When gas was in shorter supply, prices were actually lower. So, what's different? Obviously supply/demand isn't the culprit. Speculation is driving the prices, has been for a long time, but for some reason ARFcommers don't want to hear that. It's the only constant at play when other factors contradict each other. One thing I would agree with is that futures should be 100% cash markets in strategic items but probably not realistic considering the world market situation.....could all countries agree?.... |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 11:16:30 AM EDT
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$3.53 around these parts And my fucking truck needs gasThis is why I drive a 5spd Focus. 42mpg save $$$. That ain't the worst part! The wife's ride has to have premium damn gas! If I could get Ethanol free gas I would and be more efficient. You can't. They only repealed the subsidies to the ethanol industry. Not the ethanol in our gas. crazy times huh? |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 11:19:15 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: $3.53 around these parts And my fucking truck needs gasThis is why I drive a 5spd Focus. 42mpg save $$$. That ain't the worst part! The wife's ride has to have premium damn gas! If I could get Ethanol free gas I would and be more efficient. You can't. They only repealed the subsidies to the ethanol industry. Not the ethanol in our gas. crazy times huh? Some BS I know. |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 11:31:47 AM EDT
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Obama.
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Posted: 1/6/2012 11:50:31 AM EDT
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The Iranian navy http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_lHjnoEO3vOM/TF-8AwTj17I/AAAAAAAAAeU/l_jf8pqM9nw/s320/Gadir+midget+sub.jpg http://middle-east-news-in-depth.com/img/ghadir-sub.jpg I had one of those as a kid. Bitch always sank 
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Posted: 1/6/2012 12:06:21 PM EDT
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Went from $3.55 to $3.69 near me. Fucking Bush's fault. the most powerful President ever is still at work.
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Posted: 1/6/2012 12:07:51 PM EDT
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The oil companies. They have us by the balls and they want more record profit. Not just the oil companies. I own a very small stake in some wells and I too want to have you by the balls and get more profit. |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 12:09:19 PM EDT
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the greedy always need more. And who is the zeitgeist this time? are you saying that there is a reason behind gas prices? That the people in charge of them and running them are no so filthy rich that they could not need any more money? This is including the taking care of the company itself. |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 12:09:48 PM EDT
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The real reason gas went up............
The "tax credit" vanished Jan. 1st. The Gov. was "giving back" .10 gal. as an incentive to try to keep pump prices lower. There is no more small "discount" to gas stations on the fuel tax, so it gets passed back on to the consumer. For those about to whine that the local gas station is making a killing on them......... average diff. between cost and resale price per gallon is .20 cents. That .20 profit margin gets eaten up by 4% credit card fees (.146 cents charge by CC company per gallon @ 3.649 ), and the other .054 cents per gallon to cover energy costs to run the pumps, and replacement parts. End result is your local gas station is doing ood to break even, and they hope you'll come in for a coffee, snack, or drink so they might actually make a little. |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 12:09:52 PM EDT
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Still 2.95 here |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 12:13:24 PM EDT
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Iran's chest thumping.
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Posted: 1/6/2012 12:14:15 PM EDT
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$3.21––->$3.45 since Monday of this week.
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Posted: 1/6/2012 12:15:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: the greedy always need more. And who is the zeitgeist this time? are you saying that there is a reason behind gas prices? That the people in charge of them and running them are no so filthy rich that they could not need any more money? This is including the taking care of the company itself. 
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Posted: 1/6/2012 1:43:18 PM EDT
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Quoted: Iran's chest thumping. That means speculation then, because nothing about Iran's sabre-rattling actually affected anything in any material sense whatsoever. I just want everyone who chimes into these threads with supply/demand, government regs, taxes, etc. to understand that while they affect the price they don't cause these erratic, nonsensical jumps every time someone farts. |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 1:47:20 PM EDT
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$3.53 around these parts And my fucking truck needs gasThis is why I drive a 5spd Focus. 42mpg save $$$. I drive a 2000 F150 with a CNG conversion. I pay 1.29/Gas Gallon Equivalent. There are many ways to look at it, but it is sort of like driving a 60-MPG car. |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 2:40:57 PM EDT
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There are a few here who sound like they are posting from their OWS encampment.
The markets are an auction, the highest bidder sets the price. You want a command economy where prices are set on cost plus? That leads to rationing, lines and empty tanks/pipelines. Sure, call it speculation but it is far more equitable than rationing. |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 2:52:05 PM EDT
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Quoted: There are a few here who sound like they are posting from their OWS encampment. The markets are an auction, the highest bidder sets the price. You want a command economy where prices are set on cost plus? That leads to rationing, lines and empty tanks/pipelines. Sure, call it speculation but it is far more equitable than rationing. This is a discussion about WHY the price is jumping, not the right or wrong of it. Knowing that speculation affects the price isn't demanding that someone stop it |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 2:55:10 PM EDT
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The oil companies. They have us by the balls and they want more record profit. So.... If Apple Computer had a profit of say... 14% this year, would you be ok with that that? How about an oil company at 5%.... They re invest enormous amounts into R&D... |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 2:55:54 PM EDT
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The oil companies. They have us by the balls and they want more record profit. So.... If Apple Computer had a profit of say... 14% this year, would you be ok with that that? How about an oil company at 5%.... They re invest enormous amounts into R&D... |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 3:01:09 PM EDT
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World war no one would believe me
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Posted: 1/6/2012 3:02:53 PM EDT
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$2.96 here with no variation, not even by a cent, among three gas stations near my home. For WEEKS. Very unusual, they normally fluctuate up and down every single day. But they stayed at 2.96 through christmas and new year's... and then this week all three jumped up to $3.49.
Before it was $2.96, it had stated around $3.04 for a few weeks of very unusual stable prices. I don't really understand the odd stability, nor do I understand the sudden jump. I'd like to put on some tinfoil and theorize, but it would just be a load of crap. |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 3:14:14 PM EDT
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The Iranian navy http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_lHjnoEO3vOM/TF-8AwTj17I/AAAAAAAAAeU/l_jf8pqM9nw/s320/Gadir+midget+sub.jpg http://middle-east-news-in-depth.com/img/ghadir-sub.jpg What a cute toy submarine. |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 3:15:51 PM EDT
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We're so flush with gas we're exporting it like never before. That seems to suggest that we have more product than demand domestically. Prices should be low, very low. When gas was in shorter supply, prices were actually lower. So, what's different? Obviously supply/demand isn't the culprit. Speculation is driving the prices, has been for a long time, but for some reason ARFcommers don't want to hear that. It's the only constant at play when other factors contradict each other. If they would require speculators to put more than pennies on the dollar for oil contracts we might see more stability. |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 3:17:03 PM EDT
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$3.53 around these parts And my fucking truck needs gasThis is why I drive a 5spd Focus. 42mpg save $$$. That ain't the worst part! The wife's ride has to have premium damn gas! If I could get Ethanol free gas I would and be more efficient. here you go http://www.pure-gas.org/ |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 3:17:28 PM EDT
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Bush and his oil buddies... Oh, wait... Gas was $1.86/gal when bush left office. |
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Posted: 1/6/2012 3:29:05 PM EDT
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Devaluation of the dollar. Plus the end of ethanol subsidies.
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Posted: 1/6/2012 3:35:50 PM EDT
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These are the prices for which wholesalers can buy gasoline futures contracts:
I can't get the table to paste right, but they (or you) can buy a contract for delivery in Arpil for $2.90/gal. There is some profit for everyone in the chain, I don't care what anyone says. But that is not a bad thing, it keeps our outfits running. |
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