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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012





The bill that permits the indefinite detention of American citizens (with the option of due process) is now law. Today our great leader signed this bill into law. In light of this, I feel significantly safer

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Fuck our out of control Congress and fuck BHO!!!!

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But but but it exclude American citizens!

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its a bad bill to begin with but get real, there are specific clauses that make it not pertain to US citizens or resident aliens
 

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Read the Wikipedia article I posted; It gives a brief and objective overview of the law. It should help clear up any possible misconceptions.

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So what happens now?

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So what happens now?

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The only candidate on the horizon that will even think about repealing this law? ? ? ? ?

That's '] Ron Paul[/span]

Remember, it took the Dims and Repugs to vote this "slow martial law" act into being.  Oh, and Posse Comitatis, Due Process, etc.,  just went bye-bye.

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Sweet! Now Janet nipplecameltoe can lock anybody up she wants.

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I guess I'll catch you dudes in Cuba. I have more than 7 days worth of food, which makes me a domestic terrorist, and my rights are now invalid.

Oh, by the way, fo time was approximately 2 weeks ago, and we all missed it.

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The only candidate on the horizon that will even think about repealing this law? ? ? ? ?

That's '] Ron Paul[/span]

Remember, it took the Dims and Repugs to vote this "slow martial law" act into being.  Oh, and Posse Comitatis, Due Process, etc.,  just went bye-bye.

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its a bad bill to begin with but get real, there are specific clauses that make it not pertain to US citizens or resident aliens
 

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Completely UnConstitutional. Fuck John McCain and everyone who voted for it.

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It was a good thing RP voted against it. Oh wait, he DID

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Yes well, you "fucking" them, won't do anything about it.

We are in the "soap box" phase of things.

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Read it again.

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Admittedly, I am behind on this one, and I'm a little confused.  Why would the dims want this?  Aren't they the ones that want due process for everyone no matter what the circumstances?  What do they get out of it?  

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If we're talking about the 2012 choices, the "ballot" option isn't looking good.

And according to a jury nullification thread half (or better) of the posters here didn't believe in jury nullification.

where's the stick your head in the sand and take it up the ass box fit in to all of this again?  

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secton 1020
subsec e:
Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States, or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.

section 1021
subsec b
line 1
- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.
 

and just under that:

The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.
 

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A LOT of congresscritters had BETTER BE UNEMPLOYED SOON

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I'm sorry guys but without the guarantee of due process of law as mandated in the Constitution, which this law violates maliciously, a lot of people are not going to be willing to be taken into custody.  This law will put the lives of law enforcement at needless risk.  

Stupidity should be painful...  but in this instance, it'll be the guys in the field getting the pain vs. the idiots that passed this unConstitutional bullshit.

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So what happens now?

Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation.

The camps all have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from the detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby. The majority of the camps can house a population of 20,000 prisoners. Currently, the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 million people.
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Since 1996, I have been consistently traveling, investigating, documenting and reporting that there are thousands of prisoner boxcars with shackles, manufactured out of Portland, OR, by GUNDERSON STEEL FABRICATION (plus other separate boxcar manufacturing companies/operations located nationwide.)

Through numerous contacts, including CIA/Naval Intel and other sources, it has been confirmed personally to me that there are numerous covert "FEMA/HOMELAND SECURITY concentration camps" located across America, Canada and Alaska for the hour of martial law and the seizure of this nation for the New World Order.

Many of these camps are actual termination facilities, some equipped with gassing/crematory facilities. Some of these facilities are also incorporated into the military's DUMB's (deep underground military facilities.) From sources inside the CIA, it was revealed to me that these numerous camps have been established to detain and ultimately terminate what they consistently referred to as "the resisters of the New World Order." (Michael Maholy, 20 years CIA/Naval Intelligence;confirmed independently by Elaine, former CIA assassin/NWO agenda planner.)

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http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2011-375

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secton 1020

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Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States, or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.



section 1021

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- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.

 



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The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.

 

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Yes well, you "fucking" them, won't do anything about it.

We are in the "soap box" phase of things.

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its a bad bill to begin with but get real, there are specific clauses that make it not pertain to US citizens or resident aliens

 

December 28, 2011

Mr. David xxxxxx
1234 xxxxxxxxx st.
xxxx, Tennessee 38xxx

Dear Mr. xxxxxxx:

Thank you for contacting me regarding your concerns with the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 (NDAA).   Hearing from constituents on issues of concern is important to me as I work to represent our district.

As passed by the U.S. House of Representatives on December 14, 2011, the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 maintains our current policy that the U.S. military has the right to detain individuals like the Underwear bomber or the Times Square bomber, who are part of or substantially supporting al Qaeda and associated forces. While the NDAA does not address or in any way alter existing law regarding the detention of U.S. citizens, the U.S. Supreme Court has previously held that there are certain contexts in which a U.S. citizen captured on the battlefield in Afghanistan may be lawfully held as an enemy combatant in the United States. However, the Supreme Court also held that such an individual is entitled to challenge the legality of his detention through a petition for habeas corpus in federal court. Many people are uncomfortable with this ruling, and I am not unsympathetic to their arguments. The NDAA does not address this issue and voting against NDAA would not override a Supreme Court decision, no matter how problematic some may find it. We were asked to vote on the proposition that the military has the authority to detain terrorists who are associated with al Qaeda and committing acts of war against Americans. I believe that the clear answer to that question is yes.

The following is a review of the detainee provisions in NDAA:

o       The Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) section in our bill, Section 1021, merely codifies current law.  It specifically states, "nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities, relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States."

o       Any U.S. citizen detained under Section 1021 has the right under Habeas corpus to have the legality of any such detention determined by our courts.  The courts have also held that anyone detained under the AUMF at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, also has habeas rights.  We do not change these rights.

o       Section 1022, entitled, "Military Custody For Foreign al-Qaeda Terrorists" specifically excludes U.S. citizens.  It states, "the requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States."  It also states the requirement to detain under Section 1022 "does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States."

o       We also codified periodic review for those being detained at Guantanamo Bay, both now and in the future. This is an important procedure for those detained indefinitely as a threat to the United States under the law of war.

I have included a link to the House Armed Services Committee Republicans website, which has a summary of the various provisions in the defense authorization act included for your review. Also linked is an informative piece written by Congressman Buck McKeon, Chairman of the House Committee of Armed Services, entitled "Myths on the New Detainee Policy." Rest assured, as the 112th Congress moves forward, I will continue to keep your views in mind.  

Please know that I appreciate both your interest and time in contacting us on this issue. As the discussion moves forward on this and other issues, please feel free to visit our website at www.house.gov/blackburn where you can sign up for our email update, learn about constituent services, and find the latest legislative news and critical information that affects and concerns the people of Tennessee.
 
Sincerely,



Marsha Blackburn
Member of Congress

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i am of the firm belief that none of this matters anymore.

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aat the end of the sections in question it says "does not apply to US citizens"