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Posted: 12/30/2011 3:12:09 AM EDT
Just saw on Fox and ABC that a Russian Nuclear Sub has been burning out of control most of the night with 3 men still trapped inside. Officials are deciding on wether or not to flood the sub to put out the fire.
ETA. Don't know if this is a dupe. Search didn't find any match on submarine. |
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Poor bastards stuck in that thing. I'd hate to go out that way.
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You couldn't pay me enough money to serve on a submarine, iron coffins.
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Nothing on CNN, MSNBC.
On Foxnews Russian Officials Say Some Crew Still Trapped in Burning Nuclear Sub
MOSCOW – Some of the crew of a burning Russian nuclear submarine were still inside and seven others had been evacuated to hospitals after inhaling toxic fumes, officials said Friday. The Defense Ministry said there has been no radiation leak from the fire, which began Thursday at an Arctic shipyard where the submarine Yekaterinburg was in drydock. Fire brigades are still struggling to put out the fire. The military says the fire began on wooden scaffolding and then engulfed the submarine's rubber-coated outer hull. It said the sub's nuclear reactor had been shut down and its nuclear-tipped missiles and other weapons had been unloaded before the repairs. |
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An unspecified number of crew have remained inside the submarine, Defense Ministry spokesman Col. Igor Konashenkov said in a statement. He said they have reported that the condition on board has remained normal and insisted there was no danger of fire spreading inside the submarine. Hopefully true. |
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"You've lost ANOTHER submarine?" lol I just lost it when I read that hahaha |
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You couldn't pay me enough money to serve on a submarine, iron coffins. What would the USN do? |
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Any news of a sailor that loses his life is a tragic moment for anyone that's been haze grey and underway. God help them. RIP
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Quoted: You couldn't pay me enough money to serve on a submarine, iron coffins. During WWII, only about 25% of the men who served on German U-boats made it home alive at the end of the war. |
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You couldn't pay me enough money to serve on a submarine, iron coffins. Same here. My dad served on subs back in the early 70's and I don't know how. I've been on a dry docked one and that was too damn cramped for my tastes. |
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"You've lost ANOTHER submarine?" Hunt For A Red Fire Extingisher. |
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I've toured the West Virginia and no way I could serve in that.....
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You couldn't pay me enough money to serve on a submarine, iron coffins. Not on a Russian Sub. They dont have a great track record.. US subs seem to be a bit safer. |
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You couldn't pay me enough money to serve on a submarine, iron coffins. Not on a Russian Sub. They dont have a great track record.. US subs seem to be a bit safer. Yeah, but who would be a better capeetan.... Sean Connery or Harrison Ford? |
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Ivan seems to have a horrible track record with thier Nuke subs, and anything involving fissile materials for that matter.
I understand the "suffer for your country" mentality the Ruskies have, but damn... |
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I saw a video on TV showing the fire equipment sending water over a building to put out the fire. They are well keeping their distance on this one.
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I'd like to think they're just teaching the Iranians some abandon ship drills. Sadly, that's probably not the case.
They are not our enemies right now. And even if they were I'd pray for the men trapped aboard. |
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I've toured the West Virginia and no way I could serve in that..... Very spacious compared a fast attack boat. |
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If the rubber skin on the hull is burning, why don't they just submerge and put the fire out. Duh?
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If the rubber skin on the hull is burning, why don't they just submerge and put the fire out. Duh? In drydock? |
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Nothing on CNN, MSNBC. On Foxnews Russian Officials Say Some Crew Still Trapped in Burning Nuclear Sub
MOSCOW – Some of the crew of a burning Russian nuclear submarine were still inside and seven others had been evacuated to hospitals after inhaling toxic fumes, officials said Friday. The Defense Ministry said there has been no radiation leak from the fire, which began Thursday at an Arctic shipyard where the submarine Yekaterinburg was in drydock. Fire brigades are still struggling to put out the fire. The military says the fire began on wooden scaffolding and then engulfed the submarine's rubber-coated outer hull. It said the sub's nuclear reactor had been shut down and its nuclear-tipped missiles and other weapons had been unloaded before the repairs. So to translate basically the entire crew is still trapped on the ship, the reactor has been spewing massive amounts of radiation into the air, fire crews are standing around watching it burn, and finally the compliment of nuclear missiles are still onboard and might detonate. |
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If the rubber skin on the hull is burning, why don't they just submerge and put the fire out. Duh? In drydock? Hey, drydocks submerge. How do you think they get the boat in one in the first place? |
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I'm sure it's just an accidental error but Delta IV's have two reactors.
Another source. ___________________________________________________ ("Captain, in all your travels, did you ever have word from the other colony?"––back to nature colonist, (w,stte), ST:TNG "Up the Long Ladder") |
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Some were puzzled when the spokesman for the Russian Navy gave his briefing wear a Nuke Protection suit, then refused to take questions. A couple of reporters began clearly alarmed when the spokesman ran to an idling car and raced away while the rest of the idiots were trying to shout questions.
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"You've lost ANOTHER submarine?" Hunt For A Red Fire Extingisher. Well played. |
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Nothing on CNN, MSNBC. On Foxnews Russian Officials Say Some Crew Still Trapped in Burning Nuclear Sub
MOSCOW – Some of the crew of a burning Russian nuclear submarine were still inside and seven others had been evacuated to hospitals after inhaling toxic fumes, officials said Friday. The Defense Ministry said there has been no radiation leak from the fire, which began Thursday at an Arctic shipyard where the submarine Yekaterinburg was in drydock. Fire brigades are still struggling to put out the fire. The military says the fire began on wooden scaffolding and then engulfed the submarine's rubber-coated outer hull. It said the sub's nuclear reactor had been shut down and its nuclear-tipped missiles and other weapons had been unloaded before the repairs. So to translate basically the entire crew is still trapped on the ship, the reactor has been spewing massive amounts of radiation into the air, fire crews are standing around watching it burn, and finally the compliment of nuclear missiles are still onboard and might detonate. OK. Like all communist countries during a disaster like this. Keep the body count low in the press. Report only about the courage of those involved. Distract attention from the truth. Blame somebody else for the accident. |
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Always sad to hear these stories. What is it about Russian subs that make them so unsafe? The design or maintenance?
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Super heated metal cooled rapidly by nice cold water...............if it ever goes to sea again I wouldn't want to be on board for a depth test dive.
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Reported as a Delta IV http://www.submarines.zx6.ru/pics/subs/ussr/deltaIV/400_D-IV.jpg http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/slbm/pl667bdrm7.jpg http://www.physics.irfu.se/~jb/images/delta-4.jpg _________________________________________________________ ("Shucka, what you call Victor III".––Zukovsky after 007 asks him what class of submarine his nephew Captains, (w,stte), "The World is Not Enough") That's a big sucker |
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Quoted: You couldn't pay me enough money to serve on a submarine, iron coffins. Especially a Russian sub. But they are in no way our friends I say we cheer for total hull loss ETA: A boomer. we should be over there with lighter fluid. |
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Super heated metal cooled rapidly by nice cold water...............if it ever goes to sea again I wouldn't want to be on board for a depth test dive. No shit... I wonder if the hull got that hot, though. |
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So to translate basically the entire crew is still trapped on the ship, the reactor has been spewing massive amounts of radiation into the air, fire crews are standing around watching it burn, and finally the compliment of nuclear missiles are still onboard and might detonate. Can a fire even make an unarmed nuke go critical? |
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Quoted: Russian authorities report that the fire has been put out. No deaths apparently, nine crewmembers hospitalized after inhaling fumes. Picture of the fire from Thursday: http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k566/u01ohb5/1305552340176.jpg Do they have a regular ship inside that dry dock with the sub? Sure looks like it from that angle. Must be a pretty big dry dock. Anyone have information on the dry docks they use there?
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I've got this book, and it's fascinating story of disaster piling on top of disaster - fire, poisonous smoke, flooding, rocket fuel dissolving hatch seals, radioactive contamination and deaths, and capped off by typical Soviet charges of treason and sabotage against the surviving crewmen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-219 The incidentOn 3 October 1986, while on patrol 680 miles (1,090 km) northeast of Bermuda, K-219 suffered an explosion and fire in a missile tube. The seal in a missile hatch cover failed, allowing seawater to leak into the missile tube and react with residue from the missile's liquid fuel. The Soviet Navy claimed that the leak was caused by a collision with the submarine USS Augusta. Augusta was certainly operating in proximity, but the United States Navy denies any collision. K-219 had previously experienced a similar casualty; one of her missile tubes was already disabled and welded shut, having been permanently sealed after an explosion caused by reaction between seawater leaking into the silo and missile fuel residue. The authors of the book Hostile Waters reconstructed the incident from descriptions by the survivors, ships' logs, the official investigations, and participants both ashore and afloat from the Soviet and the American sides. Shortly after 0530 Moscow time, seawater leaking into silo six of K-219 reacted with missile fuel, producing nitric acid. K-219 weapons officer Alexander Petrachkov attempted to cope with this by disengaging the hatch cover and venting the missile tube to the sea. Shortly after 0532, an explosion occurred in silo six. The remains of the RSM-25 rocket and its two warheads were ejected from silo six into the sea. |
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So to translate basically the entire crew is still trapped on the ship, the reactor has been spewing massive amounts of radiation into the air, fire crews are standing around watching it burn, and finally the compliment of nuclear missiles are still onboard and might detonate. Can a fire even make an unarmed nuke go critical? I don't see how. |
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Nothing on CNN, MSNBC. On Foxnews Russian Officials Say Some Crew Still Trapped in Burning Nuclear Sub
MOSCOW – Some of the crew of a burning Russian nuclear submarine were still inside and seven others had been evacuated to hospitals after inhaling toxic fumes, officials said Friday. The Defense Ministry said there has been no radiation leak from the fire, which began Thursday at an Arctic shipyard where the submarine Yekaterinburg was in drydock. Fire brigades are still struggling to put out the fire. The military says the fire began on wooden scaffolding and then engulfed the submarine's rubber-coated outer hull. It said the sub's nuclear reactor had been shut down and its nuclear-tipped missiles and other weapons had been unloaded before the repairs. So to translate basically the entire crew is still trapped on the ship, the reactor has been spewing massive amounts of radiation into the air, fire crews are standing around watching it burn, and finally the compliment of nuclear missiles are still onboard and might detonate. OK. Like all communist countries during a disaster like this. Keep the body count low in the press. Report only about the courage of those involved. Distract attention from the truth. Blame somebody else for the accident. Exactly, I am waiting for them to blame it on a collision with a CIA submarine. |
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