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Posted: 6/14/2002 8:49:52 PM EDT
I am so angry I could scream. A man died tonight who did not need to, and should not have. I know nothing else about him. This niece has been a complete idiot for the last two years. She is not malicious, just stupid beyond belief. About two years ago she "borrowed" a new truck belonging to her father's co-worker. He was in the habit of parking it at their house and carpooling with our brother-in-law to work. He always left the keys on the kitchen counter in case it needed to be moved. She decided (at 15--no driver's license) to go joyriding to visit her loser friends, and try to impress them. Of course, she wrecked the new truck. When her parents gave her the first punishment of her life--a grounding--she responded by "attempting suicide." Not a real attempt, just took a bottle of Tylenol, then called her loser boyfriend and told him. She sustained some amount of liver damage from that little escapade. She was then sent to "military school" where she managed to get something like a GED, then they talked her into entering the Army. She decided the Marines would be "cooler." She got in, then after two weeks decided she was homesick, and thinking of suicide. They sent her to a shrink, where she was asked if she had ever had thoughts of suicide before. She revealed her past, which had conveniently been ommitted when asked prior to enlistment. Two days later she was back home. Three more auto accidents, the details of which I am not aware. Now, mommie and daddy bought her yet another car. This evening she lets her just-turned-15-y/o-friend drive her new car--head on into another vehicle, killing the male driver instantly. The 15 y/o is uninjured, despite no seat belt, probably had an air bag, but I don't know. My wife's niece has serious, but not life-threatening, internal injuries, mostly stemming from lack of seat belt usage. Shattered pelvis, torn bladder, torn uterus, chunks of bone, presumed to be from lower spine, floating loose. She has been flown by helicopter to Peoria, and is in surgery now. Perhaps now my wife will understand why I refer to teenagers as S.F.K.'s--Stupid Effing Kids. I guess I will henceforth be the "family a$$hole" as I will not be in the same building with this little murdering bitch again. A man died as a direct result of her actions that she knew not to do. Damn her to hell. [pissed]
[b]UPDATE[/B] Well, it gets better. The deceased gentleman was a family man, age 34, with five children. The youngest two are one y/o twins. He owned two or three Domino's Pizza restaurants. So sad . . . [V] |
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I can understand your anger. I hope that you will be able to find some peace. It is sad to hear that somebody was killed. I will include all involved in my prayers...God Bless.
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Sad. Let's just hope that her injuries prevent her from breeding another litter of SFK's. Sounds like something's wrong in that gene pool.
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Well, she will learn something about the consequenses of her actions. A pelvis fracture can easily be a life threatening injury. If she really did lacerate her uterus it must be a pretty significant one. She faces a very long and painful recovery at best.
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Quoted: Well, she will learn something about the consequenses of her actions. A pelvis fracture can easily be a life threatening injury. If she really did lacerate her uterus it must be a pretty significant one. [red] She faces a very long and painful recovery at best.[/red] View Quote Not painful enough, as it appears she will recover, unlike the man who died instantly with no chance to say goodbye to whatever family he had. I wonder if he had a three month old baby like my brother. A new wife, like a friend of mine. Numerous grandchildren like so many of my friends. Now he is dead, and did not need to be. [V] I will forgive her when she gives back to the man what was taken by her actions. |
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Sorry man,
Well see seems like a treat. I doubt anything will "wise her up" tho'. I also wonder just how smart her parents are. People with have a caniption fit if you give a gun to a kid now a days, but if you give them a big truck, SUV, or a car with 200+hp it's no big deal. Which do you think is more deadly?? |
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sorry to hear the bad news, cheer up and hang in there bro. Think about BRC 03 :P
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Sorry to hear of this. You didn't mention how close your wife is to her niece. I hope your wife gets through this ordeal with as little pain as possible.
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You have an uphill battle with the family.
They will never admit they have a problem. Try to stay out of it for your wife. Good luck. |
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... Damn [b]thebeekeeper1[/b], sorry to hear about this.
That is the most volatile age. It seems if you can get past 19 it's all cruising. ... FWIW, I'm sure most of us agree, we are lucky to have made it through our late teens. |
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Damn. Every family has one numbnuts like that. Mine has never killed anybody, but they've got one hell of a drugged-out wacko child abuser on my wife's side.
I'm sorry, man. |
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I'm sorry to hear about the man's death.
Quoted: When her parents gave her the first punishment of her life--a grounding-- Now, mommie and daddy bought her yet another car. View Quote Hmmm... first punishment of her life at 15??? Several totaled cars later and they buy her another??? FirearmTom is right. |
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Bummer, beekeeper, I understand your anger, Justified.
Consider this, she and her friend will have to live with this for the rest of their lives!! Maybe, just Maybe that will be sobering for her!! Thoughts are with you, good luck!!! starsil9 [shock] |
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What a stupid and senseless thing she's done.
Sorry to hear that you're having so much anger and agony over this, but it's a measure of your humanity. I lost my cousin at about that age because of some other driver's recklessness. We never learned the details because the family was just totally devasted by it. |
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Wow Beekeeper, I'm really sorry man. That is some shit.
You, being the kind of man that you are, are put in a rough position by the fact that they are family. While not nearly as serious, my wife's sister has had a rough go of things for quite awhile, due to making ignorant choices, but my wife and I agree on it. How does Mrs. Beekeeper feel about it? I usually take extra time to consider if I should take action in uncertain circumstances such as these....(WWJD?) Geoff |
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Quoted: FirearmTom is right. View Quote Yes, he is. OLY-M4Gery, my sister-in-law is a complete idiot, her husband is a really nice guy, but totally dominated by the idiot wife. She is a rabid Clinton supporter, and that about sums her up. The apple didn't fall far from the tree. Crookshanks, my wife's mother is full-blooded Mexican, and if you know anything about their culture, family is everything. It is wonderful at Christmas and other holidays, but needless to say, my wife is close to all of her nieces and nephews. There is a b-day to go celebrate nearly every week. Apparently I am rubbing off on her, because when she called with an update, I made (for me) the obligatory deragatory remark about her niece, and she agreed! I was testing the waters, and my wife passed the test. She just called again to say she is coming home, as the surgery will last at least a couple more hours. They have only done the bladder and uterus and now begin the shattered pelvis and exploratory to look for other damage. She has a two hour drive, so I am concerned for her. She is an excellent driver, but I am like a mother hen over her safety. Ironically, when my mother-in-law found out we were dating she said, "you're getting my good one." I thought that was odd at the time, but now know what she meant. My wife is absolutely wonderful. Not perfect, but a great wife. Her four sisters each have, shall we say, quirks. The quirk of this niece's mother is that she is a piss-poor parent. Two daughters, and just too busy to be bothered with being a mother. As the girl is a minor, they could easily lose everything, and they do have a rather nice home. Thanks for all the kind words, guys. I appreciate the understanding. It helps to rant. I did not know the man, and probably will never know much, if anything, about him. My job requires dealing with the aftermath of death with the family members, so I know exactly what his family is going through. Death by cancer is one thing, death at the hand of an S.F.K. is quite another. Again, thanks! |
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Mike,
Sorry to hear about this. If you need to talk or just vent you know how to get in touch with me. Take care, medcop |
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Beekeeper, Where exactly did this "accident" happen? I have relatives in the Peoria area.
AB |
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Quoted: Beekeeper, Where exactly did this "accident" happen? I have relatives in the Peoria area. AB View Quote I don't know, but I do know they took her to the Bloomington hospital first, then she was flown to Peoria for surgery. I presume it happened somewhere near Bloomington/Normal. MedCop, thanks, I'll be fine, just in a rage. Going to bed soon, headed your way in the morning. [:)] |
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Quoted: Quoted: Beekeeper, Where exactly did this "accident" happen? I have relatives in the Peoria area. AB View Quote I don't know, but I do know they took her to the Bloomington hospital first, then she was flown to Peoria for surgery. I presume it happened somewhere near Bloomington/Normal. MedCop, thanks, I'll be fine, just in a rage. Going to bed soon, headed your way in the morning. [:)] View Quote Thanks. If you get details, will you let me know? |
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Quoted: Thanks. If you get details, will you let me know? View Quote Yes, I am leaving town in the morning for the weekend, but I may take a laptop with me and post, or will have my wife post updates to this thread. Perhaps I can talk her through e-mailing you--she is not very computer savvy, but is learning. Monday, at the latest, I will let you know something. [b]Thanks to all[/b] for the concern. |
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Wow, this is not fun. I will pray for all concerned. Your wife is lucky to have someone like you who doesn't make excuses, even when it's family. I have seen parents similar to your niece's before, but it has never ended fatally. I have often wondered why they can't seem to learn from their children's mistakes. I guess they're just stupid? Wouldn't know what else to call it. It sure doesn't help their children.
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I'm sorry to hear about this tragedy, beekeeper.
How's your wife and sister-in-law faring? Do you know anything more about the man who died? Were the kids drinking? I'm sorry the other driver is dead, and I hope your wife's niece will be all right. |
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Quoted: I'm sorry to hear about this tragedy, beekeeper. How's your wife and sister-in-law faring? Do you know anything more about the man who died? Were the kids drinking? I'm sorry the other driver is dead, and I hope your wife's niece will be all right. View Quote I don't know anything more than I've posted. My wife sounded fine on the phone. She is rather outraged--that may be a bit strong--but definitely not sympathetic toward the niece. She described her sister as "hysterical." I know absolutely nothing about the victim except it was a man, and he died instantly. I have no clue about drinking or not. I don't know the niece that well, as they live a ways from us (nearly an hour drive) and I have always just viewed her as a nutcase, along with her mother. The father (no blood relation to my wife) is a good guy, and I helped roof his house a couple years ago. He lets his idiot wife dominate the household and this is what happens . . . [pissed] |
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I'm terribly sorry to hear this, beekeeper.
Heartbreaking news. |
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I hope that the experience will change her path, and her sister's as well. Sometimes such things wake people up.
Sympathies, Beek. |
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I'm sorry to hear all this, for you, your wife's family, your family, the poor guy that died, his family, and yes, your niece.
Hang in there buddy! I've been through similar situations, but without anybody getting killed, so I can only partially relate to you situation. You're a good man. Be there for the family - after all, it sounds like they would be there for you if you were the one. I have a brother that has done the unexcusable in the past (though he hasn't really harmed anyone), and though he is the "black sheep" of the family, he is loved never the less. We don't excuse it, just accepted what has happened as bad beyond belief and tried to move on. It is really a tough situation, but in most cases with strong families, it is pretty much all that can be done. In your case, it will take more than it did for us. You and yours are in my prayers. Sometimes life just flat sucks. |
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Is this it?
[url]http://www.pantagraph.com/stories/061502/new_20020615038.shtml[/url] News Saturday, June 15, 2002 Man dies in 2-car accident McLEAN -- A Lincoln man died Friday after the car he was driving was struck head-on by another vehicle on U.S. 136, just east of Interstate 55. Andrew W. Pettijohn, 34, of Lincoln, was pronounced dead at about 5:20 p.m., said McLean County Coroner Beth C. Kimmerling. Pettijohn, who was traveling alone, was eastbound on 136 when a westbound vehicle struck his car head-on. An autopsy has been scheduled for today. The two occupants of the westbound vehicle were transported to a local hospital. Their names and the name of the hospital were not available on Friday evening. Illinois State Police District 6, which was called to the scene at about 4:45 p.m., did not release any information on Friday. U.S. 136 was closed for about two hours following the crash. |
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Beekeeper, I know that it is hard, but do not let this incident burn you up. I also would not get too involved in your actions and opinions. This is one of those situations that you need to let work out on its own. Just lay low, keep the peace, and be there for whoever needs you. Take it as another one of the steps that your family and the in-laws must cope through in this thing called life. What happened, was destined to happen, you can not continue to think about what could have been done to prevent it. Everyone is going to learn something from this incident in one way or another. And then everyone must continue forward.
I hope that your niece has a conscience about what happened and learns from this day forward how precious a persons life really is. My fiance got killed 3 days before our wedding by a drunk driver. She was her parents only child. The drunk was a city official that skated out of being incarcerated. What a nightmare. |
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The answer to this is the recreated story and live "Death Penalty" airing on MTV (Moron Television).
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Quoted: . . My fiance got killed 3 days before our wedding by a drunk driver. She was her parents only child. The drunk was a city official that skated out of being incarcerated. What a nightmare. View Quote I'm very concerned about drinking/drunks plying our highways. I'm more afraid of them, than being shot with an assualt weapon. beekeeper: This is really sad. This is just the beginning. Your sister's family could be held financially responsible for the accident. I don't know about IL, but here in the PRK(calif.), even though your niece was not driving, she could be held liable because she was the legal owner of the vehicle, possibly both criminally and civilly. This definitely no fun legally. |
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I am going with the group that thinks the parents are to blame for this kind of nonsense. Poor parenting skills at work.
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Sir, I would first like to say I am sorry to hear this happened and hope she recovers quickly. I lost a few friends during my teenage years and know it effects you deeply. I hate to be the bearer of more bad news and my intention is only to make you aware of the possiblity. I think you should not only worry about her injuries but also the possiblity of criminal charges for allowing the 15 year old to drive. Did the 15 year old have a liscense? If not I would think about legal representation of some sort down the road. Again, I hope she recovers quickly and extend my sympathy to your situation. |
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Bad situation, all around. Working as a deputy sheriff, I've seen this type of behavior out of a lot of kids. I would have to agree, that the problem, starts at home with parenting. |
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Quoted: Is this it? [url]http://www.pantagraph.com/stories/061502/new_20020615038.shtml[/url] View Quote I would say that this is the one. The niece and her parents live in Lincoln, as well as the dead man. 34 y/o. [V] |
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So sorry about this, beekeeper. Another sad reminder how precious life is and how quickly it can end. Take the time today to tell those who mean the most to you how much they do mean. And especially do it tomorrow.
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My neice and her friend had not been drinking or on drugs. She had been up all night working. Someone she knew was graduating from some kind of nursing school. Instead of going straight home, they went somewhere. My sister does not know anything after that. My sister called the other hospital to find out about the other girl and the mother said she is fine--she will get to go home this weekend. The cops talked to her and she told them she was driving because my niece was too tired to drive. The lady was going to give my sister the info but like always she didn't want to know, "I can't deal with this right know." The thing is that everything is "my poor baby." So if that let's you know why she is the way she is. Yes my sister never wants to deal with anything, would rather not talk about it. Well, guess what--not this time. [V]
Linda [:I] Edited for spelling. |
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Quoted: I am so angry I could scream. A man died tonight who did not need to, and should not have....... Damn her to hell. [pissed] View Quote Bee, This may be the opportunity G*d has been waiting for to draw her to relationship with Him. He may even have an instrument, (you), in mind to help him accomplish it. Pray about it..... |
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Quoted: Quoted: I am so angry I could scream. A man died tonight who did not need to, and should not have....... Damn her to hell. [pissed] View Quote Bee, This may be the opportunity G*d has been waiting for to draw her to relationship with Him. He may even have an instrument, (you), in mind to help him accomplish it. Pray about it..... View Quote Sounds like an LDS to me. Just a guess. . . |
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I have a niece just like this. 18 & she just got out of high school. She has been picked up several times for DUI. Last time was arrested for driving on a suspended license. She went to court Fri & was sentenced 30 days in jail. Nice graduation present.
Sad thing is I doubt it will do anything to change her. My brother makes every excuse there is for her & she plays the divorced parents game to the max. I guess she is learning what being an adult is now, her father couldn't get her off this time. |
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Still, Beekeeper, I'm at a loss for words. Have gained immense respect for you over the course of the past couple of months, and wish that I could offer some comfort.
Trust yourself, and find your own source of strength. (Hard not to sound like a dummy), IMHO |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I am so angry I could scream. A man died tonight who did not need to, and should not have....... Damn her to hell. [pissed] View Quote Bee, This may be the opportunity G*d has been waiting for to draw her to relationship with Him. He may even have an instrument, (you), in mind to help him accomplish it. Pray about it..... View Quote Sounds like an LDS to me. Just a guess. . . View Quote [b]VERY[/b] bad guess....Gospel Christian... |
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Quoted: Still, Beekeeper, I'm at a loss for words. Have gained immense respect for you over the course of the past couple of months, and wish that I could offer some comfort. Trust yourself, and find your own source of strength. (Hard not to sound like a dummy), IMHO View Quote THANK YOU!! I appreciate the kind words. I was going to e-mail you, as I'd prefer to say this off-Board, but you list no e-mail. Here goes: I too have come to respect you greatly. I seek out your posts. Regarding the early difficulty between us, you have probably been here long enough now, and participated enough, to realize that this Board is regularly trolled and "attacked" by outsiders, so we are always leary of newcomers who fit a certain pattern or profile. You seemed to fit it, but with time, have shown you are certainly "one of us." I am thrilled by that as we always need and welcome new members. My wife has a good attitude about this accident mess, with little, to no, sympathy for her niece. She has the attitude that the "chickens have come home to roost" for her sister/niece. It is just so sad that a 34 y/o man had to die needlessly. Anyway, thanks for the kind words. My wife is reading them and says "thank you" too. [:)] |
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I am also sorry to hear about this Beekeeper. I will pray for all involved sir. Take care, Urban.
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Sorry, Liberty. Very bad guess it is.
Beekeeper, it may be inapproprate to say, but you really made my day with what you wrote. Take care. [Edited to remind you to give your wife a hug] |
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