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Posted: 10/3/2011 9:42:15 AM EDT
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Milk, so you get to pay more for your kids. That's nice.
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Posted: 10/3/2011 9:44:25 AM EDT
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Hold on, I'll see how much I got.
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Posted: 10/3/2011 9:45:45 AM EDT
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try a tax on butter in WI....go ahead....
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Posted: 10/3/2011 9:51:00 AM EDT
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won't be long before street gangs start peddling it back allies and such
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Posted: 10/3/2011 9:52:40 AM EDT
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Quoted: Denmark has followed Hungary's lead inimposing taxes of certain types of magical foods that make peoplefat: The new tax, designed by Denmark’s outgoing government in aneffort to limit the population’s intake of fatty foods, will add 16kroner ($2.87, or 2.15 euros) per kilo (2.2 pounds) of saturatedfats in a product. For example, according to the AFP, the tax will increase thecost of 250 grams of butter by 2.20 kroner, to more than 18kroner.... The new tax will be levied on all products including saturatedfats –– from butter and milk to pizzas, oils, meats and pre-cookedfoods –– in a costing system that Denmark’s Confederation ofIndustries (DI) says is a bureaucratic nightmare for producers andoutlets. http://reason.com/blog/2011/10/03/fat-tax-in-denmark-melancholy Soon to be:  |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 9:53:40 AM EDT
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No more butter sculptures at the fairs out there
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Posted: 10/3/2011 9:54:13 AM EDT
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 You've got to love it when the other side eats itself (pun intended). A foot tax like this is the most regressive tax possible. It's basically a poor tax. Good work socialists! |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 9:54:33 AM EDT
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Interestingly, it may actually be at odds with EU regulations, so the law may not stand.
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Posted: 10/3/2011 9:56:00 AM EDT
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In the end, it's not about your health, but how much revenue they believe they can generate. They know people will still buy the foods regardless.
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Posted: 10/3/2011 9:56:14 AM EDT
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You've got to love it when the other side eats itself (pun intended). A foot tax like this is the most regressive tax possible. It's basically a poor tax. Good work socialists! The outgoing government that instituted this was a right-of-center/conservative coalition government. |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 9:57:10 AM EDT
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Quoted: won't be long before street gangs start peddling it back allies and such Margarine Bootleggers Sent to Federal Prison |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 10:00:39 AM EDT
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The real sad thing is that there is zero, zero, none, no evidence that a diet high in fat, or high in saturated fat will make you gain weight, or destroy your heart. In fact, most credible evidence points towards a lower body fat % and better cholesterol numbers in people with diets high in animal fats.
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Posted: 10/3/2011 10:00:55 AM EDT
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It's got nothing to do with fat...it's got everything to do with revenue. If possible, government would tax every breath you take and every beat of your heart.
A senator once described government like an infant...limitless appetite at one end and complete irresponsibility at the other. |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 10:02:26 AM EDT
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Quoted: In the end, it's not about your health, but how much revenue they believe they can generate. They know people will still buy the foods regardless. Yep, because twinkies and fucking twizzlers aren't going to be taxed. Guess which is worse for you? 
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Posted: 10/3/2011 10:03:23 AM EDT
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Quoted: The real sad thing is that there is zero, zero, none, no evidence that a diet high in fat, or high in saturated fat will make you gain weight, or destroy your heart. In fact, most credible evidence points towards a lower body fat % and better cholesterol numbers in people with diets high in animal fats. Exactly. It's all about the Omega-3 to Omega-6 ratio. If you're getting enough 3 you're GTG. Sugar and diabetes on the otherhand... |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 10:03:28 AM EDT
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The real sad thing is that there is zero, zero, none, no evidence that a diet high in fat, or high in saturated fat will make you gain weight, or destroy your heart. In fact, most credible evidence points towards a lower body fat % and better cholesterol numbers in people with diets high in animal fats. The .gov food pyramid calls you a LIAR! |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 10:05:40 AM EDT
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That's a $1.30 per pound tax on all fats and oils.
So far beyond insane, it boggles the mind. |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 10:08:04 AM EDT
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in a costing system that Denmark’s Confederation of Industries (DI) says is a bureaucratic nightmare for producers and outlets. No kidding. |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 10:14:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/3/2011 10:28:36 AM EDT
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I hope there's no tax on dupes
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Posted: 10/3/2011 10:39:32 AM EDT
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That thread sucks 
Keep the DUP, it's for the children!!!! |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 10:42:38 AM EDT
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You've got to love it when the other side eats itself (pun intended). A foot tax like this is the most regressive tax possible. It's basically a poor tax. Good work socialists! The outgoing government that instituted this was a right-of-center/conservative coalition government. But if they were a political party here, would we consider them the 'other side'? |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 10:45:21 AM EDT
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Interestingly, it may actually be at odds with EU regulations, so the law may not stand. I actually spcialize in EU law. Very simply put memeber states are free to tax but cannot impose a customs duty so anything you bing in that you bought from another memeber state is GTG. |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 10:47:03 AM EDT
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ha ha... now your bullshit nutritional guidlines you all swallow like fools is going to cost you heart disease, obesity AND money...
sweet, have some more whole grain LOL... |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 10:47:35 AM EDT
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Interestingly, it may actually be at odds with EU regulations, so the law may not stand. I actually spcialize in EU law. Very simply put memeber states are free to tax but cannot impose a customs duty so anything you bing in that you bought from another memeber state is GTG. And that's apparently what is going to cause a problem - in that it will hit Danish manufacturers in a much more severe way that good manufactured in other EU countries that enter Denmark. So either it's going to be horribly lopsided in its impact, or they will TRY to impose it on retailers or importers, which would violate EU rules. I don't think it will last. |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 10:53:26 AM EDT
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IIRC, most of the dairy products that we got in the middle east were from Denmark.
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Posted: 10/3/2011 10:56:48 AM EDT
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Quoted: The real sad thing is that there is zero, zero, none, no evidence that a diet high in fat, or high in saturated fat will make you gain weight, or destroy your heart. In fact, most credible evidence points towards a lower body fat % and better cholesterol numbers in people with diets high in animal fats. What he said. Were it the way the Danish government supposes, I'd be a motherfucking HUGE lardass with high cholesterol. I'm neither overweight, nor at risk of a heart attack (judging by my last lipid panel, where everything is within the normal range - if you're into that sort of thing). In fact most of my calories come from saturated fat. By their reckoning, I should be huge. I rarely work out either, which probably confounds them even more. |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 10:58:46 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Interestingly, it may actually be at odds with EU regulations, so the law may not stand. I actually spcialize in EU law. Very simply put memeber states are free to tax but cannot impose a customs duty so anything you bing in that you bought from another memeber state is GTG. And that's apparently what is going to cause a problem - in that it will hit Danish manufacturers in a much more severe way that good manufactured in other EU countries that enter Denmark. So either it's going to be horribly lopsided in its impact, or they will TRY to impose it on retailers or importers, which would violate EU rules. I don't think it will last. Unintended consequences - how do they work? You would think that lawmakers would stop and think for a minute before passing feel-good/slap-each-others-backs kind of legislation, but nooooo... |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 10:59:37 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: The real sad thing is that there is zero, zero, none, no evidence that a diet high in fat, or high in saturated fat will make you gain weight, or destroy your heart. In fact, most credible evidence points towards a lower body fat % and better cholesterol numbers in people with diets high in animal fats. What he said. Were it the way the Danish government supposes, I'd be a motherfucking HUGE lardass with high cholesterol. I'm neither overweight, nor at risk of a heart attack (judging by my last lipid panel, where everything is within the normal range - if you're into that sort of thing). In fact most of my calories come from saturated fat. By their reckoning, I should be huge. I rarely work out either, which probably confounds them even more. Same here (except for the workout part). |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:01:06 AM EDT
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Interestingly, it may actually be at odds with EU regulations, so the law may not stand. I actually spcialize in EU law. Very simply put memeber states are free to tax but cannot impose a customs duty so anything you bing in that you bought from another memeber state is GTG. Considering half the country shops in Northern Germany anyways, it will just reinforce the status quo. |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:01:38 AM EDT
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Quoted: Interestingly, it may actually be at odds with EU regulations, so the law may not stand. Wait, a massive statist bureaucracy like the EU might actually prevent a restrictive regulation or tax from taking effect? You just divided by zero. |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:02:20 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: You've got to love it when the other side eats itself (pun intended). A foot tax like this is the most regressive tax possible. It's basically a poor tax. Good work socialists! The outgoing government that instituted this was a right-of-center/conservative coalition government. So just slightly to the left of Marx then.  |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:02:47 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The real sad thing is that there is zero, zero, none, no evidence that a diet high in fat, or high in saturated fat will make you gain weight, or destroy your heart. In fact, most credible evidence points towards a lower body fat % and better cholesterol numbers in people with diets high in animal fats. What he said. Were it the way the Danish government supposes, I'd be a motherfucking HUGE lardass with high cholesterol. I'm neither overweight, nor at risk of a heart attack (judging by my last lipid panel, where everything is within the normal range - if you're into that sort of thing). In fact most of my calories come from saturated fat. By their reckoning, I should be huge. I rarely work out either, which probably confounds them even more. Same here (except for the workout part). I do every once in a while, when I'm feeling particularly energetic. It's just not a routine. |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:03:44 AM EDT
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Quoted: In fact most of my calories come from saturated fat. By their reckoning, I should be huge. I rarely work out either, which probably confounds them even more. Please recommend a paleo-type cookbook. |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:04:04 AM EDT
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Interestingly, it may actually be at odds with EU regulations, so the law may not stand. I actually spcialize in EU law. Very simply put memeber states are free to tax but cannot impose a customs duty so anything you bing in that you bought from another memeber state is GTG. ...so in other words they would tax the snot out of domestic producers but couldn't tax imported foods with fat content? That ought to make them really popular with domestic producers. |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:05:24 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The real sad thing is that there is zero, zero, none, no evidence that a diet high in fat, or high in saturated fat will make you gain weight, or destroy your heart. In fact, most credible evidence points towards a lower body fat % and better cholesterol numbers in people with diets high in animal fats. What he said. Were it the way the Danish government supposes, I'd be a motherfucking HUGE lardass with high cholesterol. I'm neither overweight, nor at risk of a heart attack (judging by my last lipid panel, where everything is within the normal range - if you're into that sort of thing). In fact most of my calories come from saturated fat. By their reckoning, I should be huge. I rarely work out either, which probably confounds them even more. Same here (except for the workout part). I do every once in a while, when I'm feeling particularly energetic. It's just not a routine. I just find it interesting that working out or not- a diet somewhat high in fat, and little to no processed foods (IIRC from other posts of yours) still results in a healthy weight and body composition. Further evidence that eating fat doesn't make you fat. |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:05:55 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: In fact most of my calories come from saturated fat. By their reckoning, I should be huge. I rarely work out either, which probably confounds them even more. Please recommend a paleo-type cookbook. Can't. I've never read one. I just use regular cookbooks, or I'll catch something on Food Network that looks good. Other times, I might run across a recipe that I can easily modify, without screwing it up. |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:06:43 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: In fact most of my calories come from saturated fat. By their reckoning, I should be huge. I rarely work out either, which probably confounds them even more. Please recommend a paleo-type cookbook. I know you didn't ask me, but we have this one and like it: http://www.amazon.com/Primal-Blueprint-Cookbook-Grain-Free-Gluten-Free/dp/0982207727/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1317668770&sr=8-3 Other than this, we usually just modify existing recipes which isn't hard, or google stuff. |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:09:09 AM EDT
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Thanks!
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:11:09 AM EDT
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It's not about health and encouraging healthy eating. It's about revenue generation.
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:13:38 AM EDT
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Quoted: I just find it interesting that working out or not- a diet somewhat high in fat, and little to no processed foods (IIRC from other posts of yours) still results in a healthy weight and body composition. Further evidence that eating fat doesn't make you fat. If I eat a processed food, it's a bite or two just to remember what it tasted like. I eat a lot of veggies too, but if you sit down and calculate the caloric content of everything I ate in a day (I should note that I don't bother doing this, other than to satisfy an occasional curiosity), most of my calories come from saturated fat, as a percentage of the total. So not only do I not work out regularly, but I eat an assload of fat, and don't bother counting calories or weighing/measuring portions. I just eat when I'm hungry, and stop when I'm not.  I really want the Danes to explain why I'm not a lard ass.  |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:18:37 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The real sad thing is that there is zero, zero, none, no evidence that a diet high in fat, or high in saturated fat will make you gain weight, or destroy your heart. In fact, most credible evidence points towards a lower body fat % and better cholesterol numbers in people with diets high in animal fats. What he said. Were it the way the Danish government supposes, I'd be a motherfucking HUGE lardass with high cholesterol. I'm neither overweight, nor at risk of a heart attack (judging by my last lipid panel, where everything is within the normal range - if you're into that sort of thing). In fact most of my calories come from saturated fat. By their reckoning, I should be huge. I rarely work out either, which probably confounds them even more. Same here (except for the workout part). I do every once in a while, when I'm feeling particularly energetic. It's just not a routine. I just find it interesting that working out or not- a diet somewhat high in fat, and little to no processed foods (IIRC from other posts of yours) still results in a healthy weight and body composition. Further evidence that eating fat doesn't make you fat. Yep. 60% to 70% of my calories come from fat, mostly saturated animal fat, and while I do strength training I do no cardio, and I'm losing fat steadily. |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:19:09 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I just find it interesting that working out or not- a diet somewhat high in fat, and little to no processed foods (IIRC from other posts of yours) still results in a healthy weight and body composition. Further evidence that eating fat doesn't make you fat. If I eat a processed food, it's a bite or two just to remember what it tasted like. I eat a lot of veggies too, but if you sit down and calculate the caloric content of everything I ate in a day (I should note that I don't bother doing this, other than to satisfy an occasional curiosity), most of my calories come from saturated fat, as a percentage of the total. So not only do I not work out regularly, but I eat an assload of fat, and don't bother counting calories or weighing/measuring portions. I just eat when I'm hungry, and stop when I'm not. I really want the Danes to explain why I'm not a lard ass. I actually will enter everything into Fitday sometimes just for S&G as well...I usually get something like 70% of my calories from fat or something like that...can't remember, but it's really high. Fewer carbs & TONS of veggies. Yeah, I'll be waiting for the explanation as well... |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:21:53 AM EDT
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You've got to love it when the other side eats itself (pun intended). A foot tax like this is the most regressive tax possible. It's basically a poor tax. Good work socialists! The outgoing government that instituted this was a right-of-center/conservative coalition government. So just slightly to the left of Marx then.
You're right - a capitalist market economy with a positive trade balance, 4% unemployment, less regulatory burden on new business and lower corporate taxes than the U.S. - is definitely a socialist hellhole on the way to communism.
The NEW government, which IS left of center, is potentially going to be a problem. The outgoing - other than occasional idiotic stuff like this tax - was pretty good. |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:24:48 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You've got to love it when the other side eats itself (pun intended). A foot tax like this is the most regressive tax possible. It's basically a poor tax. Good work socialists! The outgoing government that instituted this was a right-of-center/conservative coalition government. So just slightly to the left of Marx then. You're right - a capitalist market economy with a positive trade balance, 4% unemployment, less regulatory burden on new business and lower corporate taxes than the U.S. - is definitely a socialist hellhole on the way to communism. The NEW government, which IS left of center, is potentially going to be a problem. The outgoing - other than occasional idiotic stuff like this tax - was pretty good. Your lies do not work here. We all know that there are two types of people in Europe. On the right you have the communists, and on the left you have the motherfucking goddamned communist bastards. That's it. |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:30:15 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I just find it interesting that working out or not- a diet somewhat high in fat, and little to no processed foods (IIRC from other posts of yours) still results in a healthy weight and body composition. Further evidence that eating fat doesn't make you fat. If I eat a processed food, it's a bite or two just to remember what it tasted like. I eat a lot of veggies too, but if you sit down and calculate the caloric content of everything I ate in a day (I should note that I don't bother doing this, other than to satisfy an occasional curiosity), most of my calories come from saturated fat, as a percentage of the total. So not only do I not work out regularly, but I eat an assload of fat, and don't bother counting calories or weighing/measuring portions. I just eat when I'm hungry, and stop when I'm not. I really want the Danes to explain why I'm not a lard ass. I actually will enter everything into Fitday sometimes just for S&G as well...I usually get something like 70% of my calories from fat or something like that...can't remember, but it's really high. Fewer carbs & TONS of veggies. Yeah, I'll be waiting for the explanation as well... I did FitDay for a while, then my own spreadsheets when that turned out to be faster (cut and paste), then finally went to subnet's style of eating when I want and not keeping track. I'm glad I did all of the recordkeeping, though, because I have a much better sense of what's in food. Now I'm thinking I'd better delete all those records of my criminally high intake of saturated fat before they come after me for a retroactive tax for all the heart attacks I caused. |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:30:50 AM EDT
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... Your lies do not work here. We all know that there are two types of people in Europe. On the right you have the communists, and on the left you have the motherfucking goddamned communist bastards. That's it. <waves hands> These are not the socialists you are looking for. 
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:33:50 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: ... Your lies do not work here. We all know that there are two types of people in Europe. On the right you have the communists, and on the left you have the motherfucking goddamned communist bastards. That's it. <waves hands=""> These are not the socialists you are looking for. </waves>I'm watching you DK. Don't you dare come near our water supply with your communist fluoride! |
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:34:39 AM EDT
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... Your lies do not work here. We all know that there are two types of people in Europe. On the right you have the communists, and on the left you have the motherfucking goddamned communist bastards. That's it. <waves hands=""> These are not the socialists you are looking for. </waves>I'm watching you DK. Don't you dare come near our water supply with your communist fluoride!
I've already stolen one of your women (... and defiled others before I met her) 
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:37:48 AM EDT
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Quoted: I did FitDay for a while, then my own spreadsheets when that turned out to be faster (cut and paste), then finally went to subnet's style of eating when I want and not keeping track. I'm glad I did all of the recordkeeping, though, because I have a much better sense of what's in food. Now I'm thinking I'd better delete all those records of my criminally high intake of saturated fat before they come after me for a retroactive tax for all the heart attacks I caused. I kept careful track of everything for a week, back in February, just to satisfy a curiosity. It was interesting, because I found that I automatically eat a lot more when I'm pretty active, and eat very little when I'm laying around the house all day. It's completely subconscious. This is kind of why I make this face ––>  when people insist on working out to loose weight. I won't deny that it works, but it...makes me fucking hungry when I do it. And you know what I do when I'm hungry? I eat. If I don't, I find that I'm pretty miserable and generally cranky. Hunger does that. I kind of wonder if it's because fat people are supposed to be punished for their gluttonous sins, or some damn thing. Ever read advice on weight loss? It's always filled with adjectives like hard, pain, sacrifice, effort, work, and so forth. I always kind of read it like "You need to PAY for your sins, fatty!". It's either that, or I'm just thinking too damn much. |
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