With homosexuals now able to serve openly in the military, the gay rights movement’s next battleground is to persuade the Obama administration to end the armed forces’ ban on “transgenders,” a group that includes transsexuals and cross-dressers.

“Our position is that the military should re-examine the policy, the medical regulations, so as to allow open service for transgender people,” said Vincent Paolo Villano, spokesman for the 6,000-member Center for Transgender Equality.

The Servicemembers Legal Defense Network (SLDN), which pushed to end the military’s gay ban, is urging President Obama to sign an executive order prohibiting discrimination based on “gender identity.”

It had wanted the order to happen on Sept. 20, the official date “don’t ask, don’t tell,” as the gay ban was called, ended via repeal legislation signed by Mr. Obama.

SLDN’s goal is contained on a Web page with the headline, “Working toward transgender military service.” The page states that a decision to remove the ban must be made at the Pentagon. “Relationships between transgender organizations, medical associations, and military allies will be crucial for advancing this issue,” it says.

“SLDN supports the revision of medical regulations to ensure that transgender Americans may serve.”

SLDN has raised the possibility of filing lawsuits to attain its goals, which include housing and other benefits for the partners of gay military members.

A White House spokesman declined to provide Mr. Obama’s position on transgenders in the military, referring a reporter to the Pentagon.

“Transgender and transsexual individuals are not permitted to join the military services,” said Pentagon spokeswoman Eileen Lainez. “The repeal of ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ will have no effect on these policies.”

The SLDN says “transgender” is commonly identified as an umbrella term for “transsexuals, cross-dressers, gender-queer people, intersex people, and other gender-variant individuals.”

Transgenders are not banned by law, but rather by a Defense Department instruction, “Medical Standards for Appointment, Enlistment or Induction in the Military Service.”

It lists scores of medical conditions that make one ineligible, including: “Current or history of psychosexual conditions, including but not limited to transsexualism, exhibitionism, transvestism, voyeurism, and other paraphilias.”

The instruction was last updated by the Obama administration. Clifford Stanley, undersecretary of defense for personnel and readiness, signed the new 52-page version in April 2010. If the administration did desire to lift the ban, it could have done it then, in theory.

SLDN has set up a website on Change.org for a petition asking Mr. Obama to issue a nondiscrimination order on transgenders.

More at link http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/sep/28/after-demise-of-dont-ask-activists-call-for-end-to/

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Who could have seen that coming?

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Who could have seen that coming?

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Who could have seen that coming?

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If a person is willing to put life and limb on the line for our freedom, I say bless them. They're doing more than I did for this country...

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I totally thought that the repeal of DADT would have been the end of it all.  

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I totally thought that the repeal of DADT would have been the end of it all.  

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Far from it...this is only the beginning.  The "intricacies" of no more DADT are only beginning to reveal themselves.

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Exactly. There is no end to the perversions that will be championed in the name of diversity and tolerance.

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Exactly. There is no end to the perversions that will be championed in the name of diversity and tolerance.

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The only way to LEGALLY get a sex-change operation or be provided with the hormones to begin that process, is to be diagnosed with a mental illness.

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Exactly. There is no end to the perversions that will be championed in the name of diversity and tolerance.

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A slippery slope indeed.

Next thing you know, they'll be demanding that dogs be given the right to enlist.

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The only way to LEGALLY get a sex-change operation or be provided with the hormones to begin that process, is to be diagnosed with a mental illness.

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I am not military or former military, but l am not against letting gays having the same opportunity to serve as everybody else.

Now, I see people with a gender identity crisis different though. There is something not right with such people mentally especially when they want to mutilate their bodies to look like the opposite sex. I see that along the same lines as somebody that wants to get rid of an arm or a leg. I don't believe it as acceptable to force women to accept a man into their showers with them and vice versa.

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They will work to get the DSM changed at the APA - once that happens, the DOD won't be able to defend the policy. Once we stop telling people they are abnormal, we can't exclude them.

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Be prepared to accept every type of perversion now.

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What does being Gay have to do with being diagnosed with a mental illness that has the chopping off of your penis as part of the treatment regimen?

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But you're OK with having to force normal men to shower with OPENLY gay guys.

How ironic.

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Sorry, but they're still the same sex. Obviously if they can't be professional about it, they don't belong. I don't see forcing women and men to shower with mentally ill people of the opposite sex as the same thing.

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If a person is willing to put life and limb on the line for our freedom, I say bless them. They're doing more than I did for this country...

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Discrimination.

You know it's coming

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Yep, homosexuality used to be considered a mental illness too.

Note emphasis.

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pedophiles will be next.

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Yes.  If we don't get control of the government again soon, we are doomed.

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And just how is this going to effect your day-to-day life?

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I don't know if this is sarcasm or not, but that's just fucking stupid. Who let you onto the internet? I'd like to kick them in the balls.

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And just how is this going to effect your day-to-day life?

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And just how is this going to effect your day-to-day life?

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Lots of "free thinkers" in this thread.  Or "Big City" thinkers.  Whichever you prefer.

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The only way to LEGALLY get a sex-change operation or be provided with the hormones to begin that process, is to be diagnosed with a mental illness.

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Let's see...

Imagine a Marine Rifleman who is training to become a killer for his Corps; endurance training, strength, unarmed combat, etc.

Now because he has his new "rights" as a transgender, he begins getting estrogen treatments, growing breasts and becoming weaker.  Not to mention, genuinely freaking out those around him, who have to bear witness to this general freak show.

How does that NOT degrade readiness?

Would you ask a man for his opinion and judgement during a life or death combat operation, if he has already demonstrated his capacity for sound judgement with the decision to have his penis sliced off?