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Posted: 8/11/2011 3:00:26 PM EDT
[#1]
Excellent story!
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Posted: 8/11/2011 3:01:03 PM EDT
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NO 1911 or 1911A1 was stamped USMC by the Military. Navy yes, USMC, no.
Cool story though. It does show people how much one could bond [if that can be true of wood and steel and human flesh] with what one carried in times of battle. It's one reason US Property firearms are sought after so much. I have no problem with saying I do love "Old Slabsides." |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 3:05:32 PM EDT
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Great story. Ever man mentioned was an amazing person.
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Posted: 8/11/2011 3:11:48 PM EDT
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VERY nice!
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Posted: 8/11/2011 3:12:04 PM EDT
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NO 1911 or 1911A1 was stamped USMC by the Military. Navy yes, USMC, no. Cool story though. It does show people how much one could bond [if that can be true of wood and steel and human flesh] with what one carried in times of battle. It's one reason US Property firearms are sought after so much. I have no problem with saying I do love "Old Slabsides." It's too bad the practice of using one's personal sidearm rather than an issued one or keeping the service pistol after service is generally verboten now. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 3:13:32 PM EDT
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Medford man returns rare handgun to Medal of Honor winner FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKK |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 3:15:54 PM EDT
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Great story. Well done by the buyer, class act for sure.
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Posted: 8/11/2011 3:17:14 PM EDT
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NO 1911 or 1911A1 was stamped USMC by the Military. Navy yes, USMC, no. Cool story though. It does show people how much one could bond [if that can be true of wood and steel and human flesh] with what one carried in times of battle. It's one reason US Property firearms are sought after so much. I have no problem with saying I do love "Old Slabsides." It's too bad the practice of using one's personal sidearm rather than an issued one or keeping the service pistol after service is generally verboten now. I do agree, I sometimes wonder where the one's I own were at, if they comforted the Military Member when it was pitch black at night and he was huddled in a foxhole listening for a rustle or scuff of a boot nearby while he tried to catch some sleep. There is a reason so many of them found some way to make it home with the GI that served. It was a little bit of security "just in case" everything went to hell. Even though mine was a bastard mismatch of parts [by the 80s, most were] it always went bang even though it rattled like a pissed off rattlesnake when you shook it. I would have paid good money to have the old beast still swinging in a holster. Alas, I must be satisfied with the one's I can dig up on occasion. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 3:20:53 PM EDT
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Wow very cool story indeed.
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Posted: 8/11/2011 3:22:57 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted: Great story. Well done by the buyer, class act for sure. Very classy from both sides. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 3:45:45 PM EDT
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Quoted: NO 1911 or 1911A1 was stamped USMC by the Military. Navy yes, USMC, no. Cool story though. It does show people how much one could bond [if that can be true of wood and steel and human flesh] with what one carried in times of battle. It's one reason US Property firearms are sought after so much. I have no problem with saying I do love "Old Slabsides." You think it might have been put there at the same time that his name was? |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 3:47:32 PM EDT
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NO 1911 or 1911A1 was stamped USMC by the Military. Navy yes, USMC, no. Cool story though. It does show people how much one could bond [if that can be true of wood and steel and human flesh] with what one carried in times of battle. It's one reason US Property firearms are sought after so much. I have no problem with saying I do love "Old Slabsides." You think it might have been put there at the same time that his name was? This is ARFCOM. There's always a fucking expert to refute any story. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 3:50:34 PM EDT
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NO 1911 or 1911A1 was stamped USMC by the Military. Navy yes, USMC, no. Cool story though. It does show people how much one could bond [if that can be true of wood and steel and human flesh] with what one carried in times of battle. It's one reason US Property firearms are sought after so much. I have no problem with saying I do love "Old Slabsides." You think it might have been put there at the same time that his name was? Possibly, the story mentioned 2 USMC markings, one fainter then the other. It's possible they were done at two different times in the pistols life, just not at the factory as manufactured. "USMC" markings are always fraudulent if they are presented as "factory" on a USGI 1911 or 1911A1. Since USMC marked US Mil Items are always scarcer then the other services, [esp Army] they command a premium, hence the attempts at fraud. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 4:00:34 PM EDT
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The last 4 digits of the serial number on my issued Colt M-4 were 1911. I always thought that was kinda cool.
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Posted: 8/11/2011 4:06:38 PM EDT
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Wow! Giving the pistol back to it's rightful owner and in return getting a pistol owned by John Finn! You couldn't put a price on either one of those. I got Mr Finn's autograph about a month before he passed away last year.
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Posted: 8/11/2011 4:06:41 PM EDT
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What a great story.
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Posted: 8/11/2011 4:21:05 PM EDT
[#17]
What a nice story about a bunch of class act people.
Puts a great big smile on my face.
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Posted: 8/11/2011 4:41:45 PM EDT
[#18]
Awesome story.
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Posted: 8/11/2011 4:55:19 PM EDT
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Too bad there aren't more people around that are willing to do things like that. That, IMHO, is one of the biggest problems w/ our modern society, most people are concerned only w/ themselves and what they can get.
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Posted: 8/11/2011 5:20:59 PM EDT
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Great story!
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Posted: 8/11/2011 5:21:35 PM EDT
[#21]
Amazing story! Thanks for posting
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Posted: 8/11/2011 5:23:59 PM EDT
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Complete Citation:
The President of the United States in the name of The Congress takes pleasure in presenting the MEDAL OF HONOR to SECOND LIEUTENANT JOHN JAMES MCGINTY MARINE CORPS for service as set forth in the following CITATION: For The President of the United States of America, in the name of Congress, takes pleasure in presenting the Medal of Honor to Second Lieutenant John James McGinty (MCSN: 0-103889), United States Marine Corps, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty on 18 July 1966, while serving with Company K, Third Battalion, Fourth Marines, THIRD Marine Division (Reinforced), Fleet Marine Force, in action against an armed enemy in Quang Tri Province, Republic of Vietnam. Second Lieutenant McGinty’s platoon, which was providing rear security to protect the withdrawal of the battalion from a position which had been under attack for three days, came under heavy small arms, automatic weapons and mortar fire from an estimated enemy regiment. With each successive human wave which assaulted his 32-man platoon during the four-hour battle, Second Lieutenant McGinty rallied his men to beat off the enemy. In one bitter assault, two of the squads became separated from the remainder of the platoon. With complete disregard for his safety, Second Lieutenant McGinty charged through intense automatic weapons and mortar fire to their position. Finding 20 men wounded and the medical corpsman killed, he quickly reloaded ammunition magazines and weapons for the wounded men and directed their fire upon the enemy. Although he was painfully wounded as he moved to care for the disabled men, he continued to shout encouragement to his troops and to direct their fire so effectively that the attacking hordes were beaten off. When the enemy tried to out-flank his position, he killed five of them at point-blank range with his pistol. When they again seemed on the verge of overrunning the small force, he skillfully adjusted artillery and air strikes within 50 yards of his position. This destructive firepower routed the enemy, who left an estimated 500 bodies on the battlefield. Second Lieutenant McGinty’s personal heroism, indomitable leadership, selfless devotion to duty, and bold fighting spirit inspired his men to resist the repeated attacks by a fanatical enemy, reflected great credit upon himself, and upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and the United States Naval Service.  |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 5:54:18 PM EDT
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To bad they don't make more like those two men.
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:43:18 PM EDT
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Quoted: To bad they don't make more like those two men. Oh they make them. They just aren't honored as they should be. |
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Posted: 8/12/2011 4:40:21 AM EDT
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Quoted: Too bad there aren't more people around that are willing to do things like that. That, IMHO, is one of the biggest problems w/ our modern society, most people are concerned only w/ themselves and what they can get. Nailed it. |
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Posted: 8/12/2011 4:54:50 AM EDT
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Reading that citation: holy shit, he has big clanking brass balls.
/hand salute, Captain. Great story about the pistol, too. |
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Posted: 8/12/2011 4:56:57 AM EDT
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"Concern yourself with what is right and you'll never second-guess that decision," he concluded.
Amen to that. |
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Posted: 8/12/2011 5:00:34 AM EDT
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"Concern yourself with what is right and you'll never second-guess that decision," |
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Posted: 8/12/2011 5:17:39 AM EDT
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"Concern yourself with what is right and you'll never second-guess that decision," he concluded. Amen to that. Good quote, good story, good show. |
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Posted: 8/12/2011 5:18:30 AM EDT
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To bad they don't make more like those two men. Oh they make them. They just aren't honored as they should be. Agree with this. I know a few myself who should have been up for medals, at least higher than what they got. Awesome story though. Thanks for posting. |
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Posted: 8/12/2011 5:36:40 AM EDT
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Now they need to track down that Auction House, and find the name of the person who sold the 1911 to them.
Run him down with a great many questions about WHERE he bought it, FROM WHOM, and once they track down the imbicile that Refinished and Aftermarket-Fucked such a beautiful piece of history they should smack the shit out of him before continuing their investigation to find who the fuck STOLE the weapon, and once they find the right man, they should hang that S.O.B. from the nearest tree. Just IMHO. 
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Posted: 8/12/2011 5:42:19 AM EDT
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Now they need to track down that Auction House, and find the name of the person who sold the 1911 to them. Run him down with a great many questions about WHERE he bought it, FROM WHOM, and once they track down the imbicile that Refinished and Aftermarket-Fucked such a beautiful piece of history they should smack the shit out of him before continuing their investigation to find who the fuck STOLE the weapon, and once they find the right man, they should hang that S.O.B. from the nearest tree. Just IMHO. Thats what I'm thinking also but how did the Marine get to keep his pistol in the first place? Pursuing this deeper with the auction house could possible ramifications for the Marine maybe. |
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Posted: 8/12/2011 5:46:33 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Now they need to track down that Auction House, and find the name of the person who sold the 1911 to them. Run him down with a great many questions about WHERE he bought it, FROM WHOM, and once they track down the imbicile that Refinished and Aftermarket-Fucked such a beautiful piece of history they should smack the shit out of him before continuing their investigation to find who the fuck STOLE the weapon, and once they find the right man, they should hang that S.O.B. from the nearest tree. Just IMHO. Thats what I'm thinking also but how did the Marine get to keep his pistol in the first place? Pursuing this deeper with the auction house could possible ramifications for the Marine maybe. Reired Marine Officer that has been awarded the MoH? Yeah I'm thinking that would fall into the great abyss of who gives a flying fuck. Especially when the sidearm is probably a retirement presentation or something. |
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Posted: 8/12/2011 5:50:33 AM EDT
[#34]
Agree about the thieving bastard, but it's entirely possible Lt McGinty treated his faithful companion to the re-finish himself.
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Posted: 8/12/2011 5:51:05 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/12/2011 5:51:31 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Now they need to track down that Auction House, and find the name of the person who sold the 1911 to them. Run him down with a great many questions about WHERE he bought it, FROM WHOM, and once they track down the imbicile that Refinished and Aftermarket-Fucked such a beautiful piece of history they should smack the shit out of him before continuing their investigation to find who the fuck STOLE the weapon, and once they find the right man, they should hang that S.O.B. from the nearest tree. Just IMHO. Thats what I'm thinking also but how did the Marine get to keep his pistol in the first place? Pursuing this deeper with the auction house could possible ramifications for the Marine maybe. Back then, I know a number of competitors in the US AMU were allowed to keep their highly modified & accurized US Property 1911 competition guns after they retired... I suspect this isn't all that different of a situation... Under certain circumstances it's not too unheard-of. |
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Posted: 8/12/2011 5:56:07 AM EDT
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Medford man returns rare handgun to Medal of Honor winner FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKK Thats all you got outta that story? 
Your in Qatar, go correct someone for wearing their socks wrong. |
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Posted: 8/12/2011 5:56:48 AM EDT
[#38]
Neat story!
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Posted: 8/12/2011 6:23:15 AM EDT
[#39]
am I the only one who read this story with dusty eyes and a chill?
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Posted: 8/12/2011 6:25:04 AM EDT
[#40]
Good story.
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Posted: 8/12/2011 6:26:57 AM EDT
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Quoted: Now they need to track down that Auction House, and find the name of the person who sold the 1911 to them. Run him down with a great many questions about WHERE he bought it, FROM WHOM, and once they track down the imbicile that Refinished and Aftermarket-Fucked such a beautiful piece of history they should smack the shit out of him before continuing their investigation to find who the fuck STOLE the weapon, and once they find the right man, they should hang that S.O.B. from the nearest tree. Just IMHO. I wish to subscribe to your newsletter and provide the rope for said hanging. |
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Posted: 8/12/2011 8:39:26 AM EDT
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Now they need to track down that Auction House, and find the name of the person who sold the 1911 to them. Run him down with a great many questions about WHERE he bought it, FROM WHOM, and once they track down the imbicile that Refinished and Aftermarket-Fucked such a beautiful piece of history they should smack the shit out of him before continuing their investigation to find who the fuck STOLE the weapon, and once they find the right man, they should hang that S.O.B. from the nearest tree. Just IMHO. Thats what I'm thinking also but how did the Marine get to keep his pistol in the first place? Pursuing this deeper with the auction house could possible ramifications for the Marine maybe. Reired Marine Officer that has been awarded the MoH? Yeah I'm thinking that would fall into the great abyss of who gives a flying fuck. Especially when the sidearm is probably a retirement presentation or something. I realize and know everything you said but if it wasn't a retirement presentation you never know what pricks there are out there to push an issue. He should have been able to take an M14 home also if you ask me. |
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Posted: 8/12/2011 8:49:58 AM EDT
[#43]
Great story, Thanks for the post OP
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Posted: 8/12/2011 9:16:47 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Now they need to track down that Auction House, and find the name of the person who sold the 1911 to them. Run him down with a great many questions about WHERE he bought it, FROM WHOM, and once they track down the imbicile that Refinished and Aftermarket-Fucked such a beautiful piece of history they should smack the shit out of him before continuing their investigation to find who the fuck STOLE the weapon, and once they find the right man, they should hang that S.O.B. from the nearest tree. Just IMHO. Thats what I'm thinking also but how did the Marine get to keep his pistol in the first place? Pursuing this deeper with the auction house could possible ramifications for the Marine maybe. Reired Marine Officer that has been awarded the MoH? Yeah I'm thinking that would fall into the great abyss of who gives a flying fuck. Especially when the sidearm is probably a retirement presentation or something. I realize and know everything you said but if it wasn't a retirement presentation you never know what pricks there are out there to push an issue. He should have been able to take an M14 home also if you ask me. It wan't specific to the Marines, either. James Earl ("CNN", "Luke, I am your father", "Simba!") Jones' autobiography mentions that he purchased and brought home his issue 1911 and M-1 carbine when he got out out of the Army, in the very early 60's.
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Posted: 8/12/2011 9:53:07 AM EDT
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Cool story.
What sucks is that we'll never see US Prop marked firearms from any other period, as the US seeks to destroy all modern arms rather than sell them on the market. We'll never see a US marked M9 carried by a soldier from Iraq or AFG 100 years from now.
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Posted: 8/12/2011 10:12:49 AM EDT
[#46]
that was a nice story.
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Posted: 8/12/2011 10:17:56 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Now they need to track down that Auction House, and find the name of the person who sold the 1911 to them. Run him down with a great many questions about WHERE he bought it, FROM WHOM, and once they track down the imbicile that Refinished and Aftermarket-Fucked such a beautiful piece of history they should smack the shit out of him before continuing their investigation to find who the fuck STOLE the weapon, and once they find the right man, they should hang that S.O.B. from the nearest tree. Just IMHO. Thats what I'm thinking also but how did the Marine get to keep his pistol in the first place? Pursuing this deeper with the auction house could possible ramifications for the Marine maybe. Reired Marine Officer that has been awarded the MoH? Yeah I'm thinking that would fall into the great abyss of who gives a flying fuck. Especially when the sidearm is probably a retirement presentation or something. He got it the same way my grandfather "acquired" his issue Model of 1911 in 1919. Or my dad "acquired" his issue M1911A1 in 1946. My grandfather never had to account for his later (he demobilized and when he was commissioned in 1942 he didn't bring it up). My dad paid the regimental S4 of the 9th Infantry Regiment $45 for his in 1947. After WWII the Army (and probably the other services) had a procedure to deal with "acquired" weapons (pistols, rifles and carbines, but not fully automatics). $38 for a .38 revolver. $45 for a M1911A1. $30 for an M1903 or M1 or M1 carbine. In Vietnam it probably got "lost" and was so reported. May the Corps looked the way. Nowadays? They'd hang you. With your own intestines. You could rape Obama on the National Mall a high noon covered by every major network in 1080i HD and the consequences wouldn't be as bad. |
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Posted: 8/12/2011 10:19:09 AM EDT
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Medford man returns rare handgun to Medal of Honor winner FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKK Thats all you got outta that story?
Your in Qatar, go correct someone for wearing their socks wrong.
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Posted: 8/12/2011 10:21:59 AM EDT
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Awesome, thanks for posting.
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Posted: 8/12/2011 10:24:10 AM EDT
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Now they need to track down that Auction House, and find the name of the person who sold the 1911 to them. Run him down with a great many questions about WHERE he bought it, FROM WHOM, and once they track down the imbicile that Refinished and Aftermarket-Fucked such a beautiful piece of history they should smack the shit out of him before continuing their investigation to find who the fuck STOLE the weapon, and once they find the right man, they should hang that S.O.B. from the nearest tree. Just IMHO. Thats what I'm thinking also but how did the Marine get to keep his pistol in the first place? Pursuing this deeper with the auction house could possible ramifications for the Marine maybe. Reired Marine Officer that has been awarded the MoH? Yeah I'm thinking that would fall into the great abyss of who gives a flying fuck. Especially when the sidearm is probably a retirement presentation or something. He got it the same way my grandfather "acquired" his issue Model of 1911 in 1919. Or my dad "acquired" his issue M1911A1 in 1946. My grandfather never had to account for his later (he demobilized and when he was commissioned in 1942 he didn't bring it up). My dad paid the regimental S4 of the 9th Infantry Regiment $45 for his in 1947. After WWII the Army (and probably the other services) had a procedure to deal with "acquired" weapons (pistols, rifles and carbines, but not fully automatics). $38 for a .38 revolver. $45 for a M1911A1. $30 for an M1903 or M1 or M1 carbine. In Vietnam it probably got "lost" and was so reported. May the Corps looked the way. Nowadays? They'd hang you. With your own intestines. You could rape Obama on the National Mall a high noon covered by every major network in 1080i HD and the consequences wouldn't be as bad. Well put. General officers have the option to buy their M-9's if they want, that's the only way.
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