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Posted: 5/2/2011 10:23:16 AM EDT
Blacks.
If you listen to songs from the 70s like the Convoy song and Devil Went Down to Georgia, those guys were basically rapping with musical interludes. If you have to attribute it to anyone its white Southerners. |
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Quoted: Blacks. If you listen to songs from the 70s like the Convoy song and Devil Went Down to Georgia, those guys were basically rapping with musical interludes. If you have to attribute it to anyone its white Southerners. Your hypothesis is supported by piles of research I see. |
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I think you can blame a lot of shitty things on southerners, but rap isn't one of them.
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Please don't do that. No one wants to claim rap. Rap is the music of fail and aids.
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If whites are to accept responsibility for rap it should only be done w/ the intent to troll to other people....
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Hip Hop music was invented by two German guys from Düsseldorf named Florian Schneider and Ralf Hütter around 1978.
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Well then, chalk up another point for the South. Doesn't quite rate as high as our southern brethren's other contributions to society, such as truck nuts or The Mullet, but it's a contribution none the less.
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Quoted: Please don't do that. No one wants to claim rap. Rap is the music of fail and aids. |
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I don't Charlie Daniels was on stage grabbing his crotch and spitting into his mic.
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Quoted: Blacks. If you listen to songs from the 70s like the Convoy song and Devil Went Down to Georgia, those guys were basically rapping with musical interludes. If you have to attribute it to anyone its white Southerners. You don't have to post every single thought that crosses your mind. In fact, it's better if you don't. Edited for clarity. |
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Wasn't rap popular among inner city youths long before it started getting popular?
Remember the song Rapture by Debbie Harry? It was referencing rap going on in the inner cities, I think rap has been around a lot longer than most realize. |
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How are they similar except that they use words that rhyme, same as in every other genre of music?
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They both have jazz and soul origins, and there was considerable cross-over between the two.
I'd say they have common ancestors, not necessarily one preceding the other.
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Yo yo yo, the mutha fuckin debil, yo, be goin' down to mutha fuckin' Georga. He be fuckin' wit some hoes, and shi, bro.
Yep. I can hear the resemblance, clearly. |
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They both have jazz and soul origins, and there was considerable cross-over between the two. I'd say they have common ancestors, not necessarily one preceding the other. I totally agree. But I think its improper for one group to claim total credit when others have obviously contributed to the genre. Obviously the urban influence has evolved it but the origins are the same. |
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This reminds me of the thread were someone tried to claim Bob Fosse invented the Moonwalk
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They both have jazz and soul origins, and there was considerable cross-over between the two. I'd say they have common ancestors, not necessarily one preceding the other. I totally agree. But I think its improper for one group to claim total credit when others have obviously contributed to the genre. Obviously the urban influence has evolved it but the origins are the same. The origin of all music is the same, how far back do you want to go? |
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Why is it, hip hop artists, or rap artists, tend to refer to themselves in the third person, repeatedly, in many of their tracks?
Do this in your head: Hum Master of Puppets or Battery, and then say, "METALLICA nah nah nah nah METALLICA." Doesn't that sound ridiculous? How about some country, "Here she comes, a walking talking true love, saying I've been looking for you, love; SUPRISE GEORGE STRAIT, out of a blue clear sky." |
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Wasn't rap popular among inner city youths long before it started getting popular? Remember the song Rapture by Debbie Harry? It was referencing rap going on in the inner cities, I think rap has been around a lot longer than most realize. Not only that "rappers delight" by the Sugar Hill Gang was a big hit years before "rapture" |
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And I think it's funny that rock music is attributed to rebellious whites, when in fact the first rock music was black gospel music. I was listening to the Bone Conduction Music show when Thayrone X played what he claimed was THE first recorded instance of rock music, and it was from the early 20th century, long before the "golden age" of rock in the 1950s. I looked it up, and sure enough, that's where rock came from. I just wish I could remember the name of the singer, her voice was beautiful.
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Quoted: Quoted: They both have jazz and soul origins, and there was considerable cross-over between the two. I'd say they have common ancestors, not necessarily one preceding the other. I totally agree. But I think its improper for one group to claim total credit when others have obviously contributed to the genre. Obviously the urban influence has evolved it but the origins are the same. You can trace all noise patterns made by humans ( I refuse to label rap as music) back to the cavemen shouting "ug ug" while beating on a log with another stick. |
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Quoted: And I think it's funny that rock music is attributed to rebellious whites, when in fact the first rock music was black gospel music. I was listening to the Bone Conduction Music show when Thayrone X played what he claimed was THE first recorded instance of rock music, and it was from the early 20th century, long before the "golden age" of rock in the 1950s. I looked it up, and sure enough, that's where rock came from. I just wish I could remember the name of the singer, her voice was beautiful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4P8YPombbk Yeah, I've heard that rock came from soul/jazz/blues.....I'm just not seeing it here. |
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You don't have to post every single thought that crosses your mind. In fact, it's better if you don't. Was that directed at the OP? |
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If we are going that route, then I have to point out that the rednecks were ripping off Dylan, he Recorded Subterranean Homesick Blues long before that type of singing became popular in Country music. Of course one could also point out that lyrics spoken rather than sang, to the rhythm of a song was common in the Delta Blues as early as the twenties, probably earlier than that, but in those days "black" music was rarely recorded or written about in white publications.
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Blacks. If you listen to songs from the 70s like the Convoy song and Devil Went Down to Georgia, those guys were basically rapping with musical interludes. If you have to attribute it to anyone its white Southerners. So when does Charlie Daniels rap about Johnny and the Devil ejaculating all over the random women they can find? |
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Yo yo yo, the mutha fuckin debil, yo, be goin' down to mutha fuckin' Georga. He be fuckin' wit some hoes, and shi, bro. Yep. I can hear the resemblance, clearly. Rofl Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Quoted: Quoted: Blacks. If you listen to songs from the 70s like the Convoy song and Devil Went Down to Georgia, those guys were basically rapping with musical interludes. If you have to attribute it to anyone its white Southerners. So when does Charlie Daniels rap about Johnny and the Devil ejaculating all over the random women they can find? That kind of rap didn't come around till a good number of years after rap became commonly known and popular. |
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I don't know who its attributed to but I like rap music. I also listen to other
genres, just depends on mood. |
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Blacks. If you listen to songs from the 70s like the Convoy song and Devil Went Down to Georgia, those guys were basically rapping with musical interludes. If you have to attribute it to anyone its white Southerners. Cab Calloway is rolling over in his grave. |
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Who cares?
Jesus, just post another OBL IS DEAD thread and go along with the crowd. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS3ErDN50Qk
Rap? (I never could embed ) |
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Who cares? Jesus, just post another OBL IS DEAD thread and go along with the crowd. Wait, what? |
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musical lyrics have been rhyming since long before the seventies dude. thats not what makes rap music what it is.
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Yo yo yo, the mutha fuckin debil, yo, be goin' down to mutha fuckin' Georga. He be fuckin' wit some hoes, and shi, bro. Yep. I can hear the resemblance, clearly. . Yo, bra...you just went instant rap classic billboard top 20, FTMFW! |
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