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Posted: 4/29/2011 6:39:43 AM EDT
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Good show, but I won't be impressed until the people of CA no longer have to deal with arbitrary limitations on what features/ ammo capacity thier firearms can have.
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Posted: 4/29/2011 6:42:16 AM EDT
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It finally sunk into the ocean?
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Posted: 4/29/2011 7:32:50 AM EDT
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I have never understood the dichotomy between ARFCOM and CA-gun owners, and the lack of support thereof.
Being written off because of the state in which one resides sucks...... 
Fellow U.S. gun owners should be allies.......not targets of ridicule due to state politics. CA gun owners have won huge court battles over the last year, specifically AB962! Bravo!!!! |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 7:37:00 AM EDT
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In for the anticipated Herp Derp.
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Posted: 4/29/2011 7:37:50 AM EDT
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It finally sunk into the ocean? 
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Posted: 4/29/2011 7:39:00 AM EDT
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All they have to celebrate is that they went a year without it getting even worse?
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Posted: 4/29/2011 7:39:01 AM EDT
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In for the anticipated Herp Derp. First they will HERP, then they will DERP!!!!!!! 
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Posted: 4/29/2011 7:39:45 AM EDT
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Quoted: It finally sunk into the ocean? No but in Tennessee, 46 dudes married their sisters... |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 7:59:58 AM EDT
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All they have to celebrate is that they went a year without it getting even worse? You have to stop the leak before you pump the water out. I would never had guessed the OC ban would be defeated in Cali. I hope they use these victories to go on the offensive. |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 8:19:42 AM EDT
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Can someone explain what that article was actually about? I skimmed the whole thing, but there was so much purple prose I could barely get anything from it.
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Posted: 4/29/2011 8:20:15 AM EDT
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Quoted: OC isn't banned here anyway? Or do you mean we can now do it with a magazine inserted?Quoted: All they have to celebrate is that they went a year without it getting even worse? You have to stop the leak before you pump the water out. I would never had guessed the OC ban would be defeated in Cali. I hope they use these victories to go on the offensive. |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 8:30:53 AM EDT
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Wait, wrong... we are doing it WRONG!!
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Posted: 4/29/2011 8:33:31 AM EDT
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It finally sunk into the ocean? No but in Tennessee, 46 dudes married their sisters... 
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Posted: 4/29/2011 8:36:03 AM EDT
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It finally sunk into the ocean? TN finally get blown off the map? I guess just the smart ones.
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Posted: 4/29/2011 8:48:36 AM EDT
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I'm glad that the folks in California are fighting the good fight. Hell, I'm in Texas and we can barely get something worthwhile passed
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Posted: 4/29/2011 8:51:47 AM EDT
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Quoted: It finally sunk into the ocean? If CA broke off, it would be the largest island, just saying |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 8:54:22 AM EDT
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Defeate of every gun control bill is misleading.
Arnold signed the mail order ammo ban. We got lucky when a judge threw it out. |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 8:54:34 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: It finally sunk into the ocean? If CA broke off, it would be the largest island, just saying Not even close. |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 8:54:58 AM EDT
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Quoted: I have never understood the dichotomy between ARFCOM and CA-gun owners, and the lack of support thereof. Being written off because of the state in which one resides sucks...... Fellow U.S. gun owners should be allies.......not targets of ridicule due to state politics. CA gun owners have won huge court battles over the last year, specifically AB962! Bravo!!!! From what I just read in the OP it looks like California is doing better in 2A legislation in the past year than Oklahoma is. Congrats and good luck in the future. |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 8:59:07 AM EDT
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Keep pushing! Hopefully you can push the anti gunners out of California, and into the sea. 
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Posted: 4/29/2011 8:59:24 AM EDT
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Quoted: we sup[port you and are glad you didn't get even more fucked. We just laugh at the idea of any advancement in your guys rights. California is a lost cause unless a tsunami rolls in and takes out the costal cities. All you good conservatives with guns should move here and help bring that commie shithole to it's knees. I have never understood the dichotomy between ARFCOM and CA-gun owners, and the lack of support thereof. Being written off because of the state in which one resides sucks...... Fellow U.S. gun owners should be allies.......not targets of ridicule due to state politics. CA gun owners have won huge court battles over the last year, specifically AB962! Bravo!!!! John Galt California and we will be proud. If you love your state you will move |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 9:01:24 AM EDT
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Good luck Californians!
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Posted: 4/29/2011 9:09:19 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: OC isn't banned here anyway? Or do you mean we can now do it with a magazine inserted?Quoted: All they have to celebrate is that they went a year without it getting even worse? You have to stop the leak before you pump the water out. I would never had guessed the OC ban would be defeated in Cali. I hope they use these victories to go on the offensive. There was proposed legislation to ban open carry entirely- it was defeated. |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 9:38:44 AM EDT
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not passing new gun control is a LONG way from being pro-gun. i write off CA (as a state) because it's not pro-gun. |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 9:44:47 AM EDT
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OC isn't banned here anyway? Or do you mean we can now do it with a magazine inserted?
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All they have to celebrate is that they went a year without it getting even worse? You have to stop the leak before you pump the water out. I would never had guessed the OC ban would be defeated in Cali. I hope they use these victories to go on the offensive. There was proposed legislation to ban open carry entirely- it was defeated. Correct, I was referring to the proposed legislation that was defeated. |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 10:02:02 AM EDT
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Still not moving back.
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Posted: 4/29/2011 10:02:10 AM EDT
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Thanks to too many democRATS in this state, I went from being able to walk out of a gun store with an AR-15 on my 18th birthday, to not being able to buy a new AR-15 (except crippleware OLL stuff).
Gun owners here do everything possible to reverse the trend, but the opposition seems to have been very successful - "for the children," don't you know? 
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Posted: 4/29/2011 10:13:43 AM EDT
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I have never understood the dichotomy between ARFCOM and CA-gun owners, and the lack of support thereof. Being written off because of the state in which one resides sucks......
Fellow U.S. gun owners should be allies.......not targets of ridicule due to state politics. CA gun owners have won huge court battles over the last year, specifically AB962! Bravo!!!! QFT There are a lot of good people in Ca that get screwed over by the liberal majority in the major citys, i was born and spent most of my life in Northern Ca and watched the liberals slowly ruin my beloved home. |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 11:10:47 AM EDT
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we sup[port you and are glad you didn't get even more fucked. We just laugh at the idea of any advancement in your guys rights. California is a lost cause unless a tsunami rolls in and takes out the costal cities. All you good conservatives with guns should move here and help bring that commie shithole to it's knees.
I have never understood the dichotomy between ARFCOM and CA-gun owners, and the lack of support thereof. Being written off because of the state in which one resides sucks......
Fellow U.S. gun owners should be allies.......not targets of ridicule due to state politics. CA gun owners have won huge court battles over the last year, specifically AB962! Bravo!!!! John Galt California and we will be proud. If you love your state you will move I did, 4 years ago. The stupid gun laws were a big factor leading to my escape. |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 11:47:15 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: we sup[port you and are glad you didn't get even more fucked. We just laugh at the idea of any advancement in your guys rights. California is a lost cause unless a tsunami rolls in and takes out the costal cities. All you good conservatives with guns should move here and help bring that commie shithole to it's knees. I have never understood the dichotomy between ARFCOM and CA-gun owners, and the lack of support thereof. Being written off because of the state in which one resides sucks...... Fellow U.S. gun owners should be allies.......not targets of ridicule due to state politics. CA gun owners have won huge court battles over the last year, specifically AB962! Bravo!!!! John Galt California and we will be proud. If you love your state you will move Thats what I love about gun owners here, solidarity. Maybe our military can adopt your great plan. "If you love your country, run away!" |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 1:56:44 PM EDT
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Quoted: Okay, so we're celebrating things not getting worse? Color me apathetic, and call me when they get better.Quoted: Quoted: OC isn't banned here anyway? Or do you mean we can now do it with a magazine inserted?Quoted: All they have to celebrate is that they went a year without it getting even worse? You have to stop the leak before you pump the water out. I would never had guessed the OC ban would be defeated in Cali. I hope they use these victories to go on the offensive. There was proposed legislation to ban open carry entirely- it was defeated. |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 7:59:19 PM EDT
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Quoted: not passing new gun control is a LONG way from being pro-gun. i write off CA (as a state) because it's not pro-gun. Oh, YOU wrote it off.  |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 8:11:05 PM EDT
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Quoted: I have never understood the dichotomy between ARFCOM and CA-gun owners, and the lack of support thereof. Being written off because of the state in which one resides sucks...... Fellow U.S. gun owners should be allies.......not targets of ridicule due to state politics. CA gun owners have won huge court battles over the last year, specifically AB962! Bravo!!!! One would have to mentally differentiate between CA conservatives and CA anti-gun commies. That would require at least second grade level thinking skills. You're dreaming.
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Posted: 4/29/2011 8:21:12 PM EDT
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All they have to celebrate is that they went a year without it getting even worse? Anyone else see the irony of someone from IL shit talking CA in regard to gun rights? 
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Posted: 4/29/2011 8:42:38 PM EDT
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All they have to celebrate is that they went a year without it getting even worse? Well, wouldn't it be nice if we as a nation could celebrate the same thing? I say kudos to the gun folks in CA. I would love to see your state regain it's sanity. Perhaps this will be remembered as an early step in the right direction. |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 8:50:35 PM EDT
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Quoted: If there was a place willing to embrace the US constitution and provided more freedom you bet your ass I would move there. America is an idea more than it is a map location. I fight to save America only because it is still the best and last hope for freedom in the world. You can fight for freedom by letting liberalism in california fail . Save up and move somewhere more free. let california become an example rather than being a slave to it.Quoted: Quoted: we sup[port you and are glad you didn't get even more fucked. We just laugh at the idea of any advancement in your guys rights. California is a lost cause unless a tsunami rolls in and takes out the costal cities. All you good conservatives with guns should move here and help bring that commie shithole to it's knees. I have never understood the dichotomy between ARFCOM and CA-gun owners, and the lack of support thereof. Being written off because of the state in which one resides sucks...... Fellow U.S. gun owners should be allies.......not targets of ridicule due to state politics. CA gun owners have won huge court battles over the last year, specifically AB962! Bravo!!!! John Galt California and we will be proud. If you love your state you will move Thats what I love about gun owners here, solidarity. Maybe our military can adopt your great plan. "If you love your country, run away!" |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 10:04:52 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: All they have to celebrate is that they went a year without it getting even worse? Anyone else see the irony of someone from IL shit talking CA in regard to gun rights? In order to understand the way things work as in the law of momentum and reverse, one must realize the simple principles of it. Lets take for example, a car.. You cannot simple go from reverse to drive without a moment of stopping the momentum FIRST as in what just happened. We have stopped the reverse momentum and now there are a bunch of pro gun bills being worked on as we speak. NOW, as far as our "people in glass houses" friend from Illinois is concerned, the LAST president we sent to Washington was Ronald Reagan, THANKS FOR OBAMA captain Illinois. |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 10:07:43 PM EDT
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I have never understood the dichotomy between ARFCOM and CA-gun owners, and the lack of support thereof. Being written off because of the state in which one resides sucks......
Fellow U.S. gun owners should be allies.......not targets of ridicule due to state politics. CA gun owners have won huge court battles over the last year, specifically AB962! Bravo!!!! Feel your pain, we had someone stating in the NYS trucker bust thread that all matches currently held in NY Cali NJ etc should be shut down until the states strike down all the laws... Yea thats a good plan kill off anything that would actually draw more people into the shooting sports. |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 10:16:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: If there was a place willing to embrace the US constitution and provided more freedom you bet your ass I would move there. America is an idea more than it is a map location. I fight to save America only because it is still the best and last hope for freedom in the world. You can fight for freedom by letting liberalism in california fail . Save up and move somewhere more free. let california become an example rather than being a slave to it.Quoted: Quoted: we sup[port you and are glad you didn't get even more fucked. We just laugh at the idea of any advancement in your guys rights. California is a lost cause unless a tsunami rolls in and takes out the costal cities. All you good conservatives with guns should move here and help bring that commie shithole to it's knees. I have never understood the dichotomy between ARFCOM and CA-gun owners, and the lack of support thereof. Being written off because of the state in which one resides sucks...... Fellow U.S. gun owners should be allies.......not targets of ridicule due to state politics. CA gun owners have won huge court battles over the last year, specifically AB962! Bravo!!!! John Galt California and we will be proud. If you love your state you will move Thats what I love about gun owners here, solidarity. Maybe our military can adopt your great plan. "If you love your country, run away!" Last I heard, your theory is called "Running with your tail between your legs"... If your theory was in the minds and hearts of our freedom fighting founders who stood up to tyranny, There would be NO America as we know it. I would rather sit in a foxhole with these people who sit and fight knowing they would fight with me... Not high tail ass outta here when the heat is turned up. Looking at the history of gun laws here, they have been progressively getting less each year... until this year where they ceased. Why, because the pro constitutional AMERICANS of this state squelched that crap. And how did we do it? Not by running away. |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 10:24:39 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If there was a place willing to embrace the US constitution and provided more freedom you bet your ass I would move there. America is an idea more than it is a map location. I fight to save America only because it is still the best and last hope for freedom in the world. You can fight for freedom by letting liberalism in california fail . Save up and move somewhere more free. let california become an example rather than being a slave to it.Quoted: Quoted: we sup[port you and are glad you didn't get even more fucked. We just laugh at the idea of any advancement in your guys rights. California is a lost cause unless a tsunami rolls in and takes out the costal cities. All you good conservatives with guns should move here and help bring that commie shithole to it's knees. I have never understood the dichotomy between ARFCOM and CA-gun owners, and the lack of support thereof. Being written off because of the state in which one resides sucks...... Fellow U.S. gun owners should be allies.......not targets of ridicule due to state politics. CA gun owners have won huge court battles over the last year, specifically AB962! Bravo!!!! John Galt California and we will be proud. If you love your state you will move Thats what I love about gun owners here, solidarity. Maybe our military can adopt your great plan. "If you love your country, run away!" Last I heard, your theory is called "Running with your tail between your legs"... If your theory was in the minds and hearts of our freedom fighting founders who stood up to tyranny, There would be NO America as we know it. I would rather sit in a foxhole with these people who sit and fight knowing they would fight with me... Not high tail ass outta here when the heat is turned up. Looking at the history of gun laws here, they have been progressively getting less each year... until this year where they ceased. Why, because the pro constitutional AMERICANS of this state squelched that crap. And how did we do it? Not by running away. so the basis of capitalism and speaking with your wallet is cowardice? I for one have nothing against those fighting anti gun laws in california. I applaud you and wish you the best. I just think that moving to a free state and letting that one collapse is the best way to end what is going on in California. I understand it is your home and you are willing to go the long haul but if Arizona went full retard I would save up and move somewhere that wasn't going full retard. I still think that the rural half of califoria should force a separation from the coastal cities and form a new state. That seems like the best alternative if you want to reference the founders of this country. The founders didn't try to change britain. They forged their own country. The urban centers of california are lost and are oppressing the rest of the state. Change your battle tactics if you want to win . |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 10:48:31 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If there was a place willing to embrace the US constitution and provided more freedom you bet your ass I would move there. America is an idea more than it is a map location. I fight to save America only because it is still the best and last hope for freedom in the world. You can fight for freedom by letting liberalism in california fail . Save up and move somewhere more free. let california become an example rather than being a slave to it.Quoted: Quoted: we sup[port you and are glad you didn't get even more fucked. We just laugh at the idea of any advancement in your guys rights. California is a lost cause unless a tsunami rolls in and takes out the costal cities. All you good conservatives with guns should move here and help bring that commie shithole to it's knees. I have never understood the dichotomy between ARFCOM and CA-gun owners, and the lack of support thereof. Being written off because of the state in which one resides sucks...... Fellow U.S. gun owners should be allies.......not targets of ridicule due to state politics. CA gun owners have won huge court battles over the last year, specifically AB962! Bravo!!!! John Galt California and we will be proud. If you love your state you will move Thats what I love about gun owners here, solidarity. Maybe our military can adopt your great plan. "If you love your country, run away!" Last I heard, your theory is called "Running with your tail between your legs"... If your theory was in the minds and hearts of our freedom fighting founders who stood up to tyranny, There would be NO America as we know it. I would rather sit in a foxhole with these people who sit and fight knowing they would fight with me... Not high tail ass outta here when the heat is turned up. Looking at the history of gun laws here, they have been progressively getting less each year... until this year where they ceased. Why, because the pro constitutional AMERICANS of this state squelched that crap. And how did we do it? Not by running away. so the basis of capitalism and speaking with your wallet is cowardice? I for one have nothing against those fighting anti gun laws in california. I applaud you and wish you the best. I just think that moving to a free state and letting that one collapse is the best way to end what is going on in California. I understand it is your home and you are willing to go the long haul but if Arizona went full retard I would save up and move somewhere that wasn't going full retard. I still think that the rural half of califoria should force a separation from the coastal cities and form a new state. That seems like the best alternative if you want to reference the founders of this country. The founders didn't try to change britain. They forged their own country. The urban centers of california are lost and are oppressing the rest of the state. Change your battle tactics if you want to win . Urban centers of California are lost. There is a Mega-shit-ton of herp derp going on there. However, coastal CA has a lot of conservative strongholds. Newport Beach, Dana Point, Huntington Beach, Newport Coast for starters are key coastal CA cities that are heavily conservative. Legislators in California are feeling capitalist pressure on they wayward politics with the mass exodus of corporations bailing out of this state. I feel sorry for the workers that lost their jobs but business is business and they HAVE to leave due to erroneous environmental rules and obnoxious business regulations. Even former San Francisco mayor Gavin Newsom is realizing this NOW. He even had to go to Texas recently and asked first hand "WHY" are California businesses migrating there... he and his entourage got an earful. You are saying to "Change your battle tactics if you want to win" Isn't that what we are doing from tactics of just a mere 10 years ago? When you are losing 10-1, you have to tie the game first before scoring to win. It's tied. As said earlier, there are a bunch of pro gun bills being worked on AS WELL AS fighting unconstitutional laws that have been passed. Please check CRPA (California Rifle & Pistol Association) Calguns.net, California NRA-ILA websites for more detailed info if you are interested. |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 10:52:19 PM EDT
[#42]
This is good news! Maybe I can change my username soon!
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Posted: 4/29/2011 10:58:23 PM EDT
[#43]
To those of you sticking with it / putting up with it, good job, and continued good luck.
I "ran away" from NJ/NY, but I was born in ID anyway, so I never belonged under those big city lights. 
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Posted: 4/29/2011 11:12:43 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If there was a place willing to embrace the US constitution and provided more freedom you bet your ass I would move there. America is an idea more than it is a map location. I fight to save America only because it is still the best and last hope for freedom in the world. You can fight for freedom by letting liberalism in california fail . Save up and move somewhere more free. let california become an example rather than being a slave to it.Quoted: Quoted: we sup[port you and are glad you didn't get even more fucked. We just laugh at the idea of any advancement in your guys rights. California is a lost cause unless a tsunami rolls in and takes out the costal cities. All you good conservatives with guns should move here and help bring that commie shithole to it's knees. I have never understood the dichotomy between ARFCOM and CA-gun owners, and the lack of support thereof. Being written off because of the state in which one resides sucks...... Fellow U.S. gun owners should be allies.......not targets of ridicule due to state politics. CA gun owners have won huge court battles over the last year, specifically AB962! Bravo!!!! John Galt California and we will be proud. If you love your state you will move Thats what I love about gun owners here, solidarity. Maybe our military can adopt your great plan. "If you love your country, run away!" Last I heard, your theory is called "Running with your tail between your legs"... If your theory was in the minds and hearts of our freedom fighting founders who stood up to tyranny, There would be NO America as we know it. I would rather sit in a foxhole with these people who sit and fight knowing they would fight with me... Not high tail ass outta here when the heat is turned up. Looking at the history of gun laws here, they have been progressively getting less each year... until this year where they ceased. Why, because the pro constitutional AMERICANS of this state squelched that crap. And how did we do it? Not by running away. so the basis of capitalism and speaking with your wallet is cowardice? I for one have nothing against those fighting anti gun laws in california. I applaud you and wish you the best. I just think that moving to a free state and letting that one collapse is the best way to end what is going on in California. I understand it is your home and you are willing to go the long haul but if Arizona went full retard I would save up and move somewhere that wasn't going full retard. I still think that the rural half of califoria should force a separation from the coastal cities and form a new state. That seems like the best alternative if you want to reference the founders of this country. The founders didn't try to change britain. They forged their own country. The urban centers of california are lost and are oppressing the rest of the state. Change your battle tactics if you want to win . Urban centers of California are lost. There is a Mega-shit-ton of herp derp going on there. However, coastal CA has a lot of conservative strongholds. Newport Beach, Dana Point, Huntington Beach, Newport Coast for starters are key coastal CA cities that are heavily conservative. Legislators in California are feeling capitalist pressure on they wayward politics with the mass exodus of corporations bailing out of this state. I feel sorry for the workers that lost their jobs but business is business and they HAVE to leave due to erroneous environmental rules and obnoxious business regulations. Even former San Francisco mayor Gavin Newsom is realizing this NOW. He even had to go to Texas recently and asked first hand "WHY" are California businesses migrating there... he and his entourage got an earful. You are saying to "Change your battle tactics if you want to win" Isn't that what we are doing from tactics of just a mere 10 years ago? When you are losing 10-1, you have to tie the game first before scoring to win. It's tied. As said earlier, there are a bunch of pro gun bills being worked on AS WELL AS fighting unconstitutional laws that have been passed. Please check CRPA (California Rifle & Pistol Association) Calguns.net, California NRA-ILA websites for more detailed info if you are interested. okay Ill give you the benefit of the doubt . the last california elections though.......... brown turd.......... just hard to have hope. Maybe you guys will be able to lead the way out of thee mess but damn.......... |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 11:34:19 PM EDT
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Quoted: I know it doesn't say much but Brown has been more conservative than Arnold on quite a few issues Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If there was a place willing to embrace the US constitution and provided more freedom you bet your ass I would move there. America is an idea more than it is a map location. I fight to save America only because it is still the best and last hope for freedom in the world. You can fight for freedom by letting liberalism in california fail . Save up and move somewhere more free. let california become an example rather than being a slave to it.Quoted: Quoted: we sup[port you and are glad you didn't get even more fucked. We just laugh at the idea of any advancement in your guys rights. California is a lost cause unless a tsunami rolls in and takes out the costal cities. All you good conservatives with guns should move here and help bring that commie shithole to it's knees. I have never understood the dichotomy between ARFCOM and CA-gun owners, and the lack of support thereof. Being written off because of the state in which one resides sucks...... Fellow U.S. gun owners should be allies.......not targets of ridicule due to state politics. CA gun owners have won huge court battles over the last year, specifically AB962! Bravo!!!! John Galt California and we will be proud. If you love your state you will move Thats what I love about gun owners here, solidarity. Maybe our military can adopt your great plan. "If you love your country, run away!" Last I heard, your theory is called "Running with your tail between your legs"... If your theory was in the minds and hearts of our freedom fighting founders who stood up to tyranny, There would be NO America as we know it. I would rather sit in a foxhole with these people who sit and fight knowing they would fight with me... Not high tail ass outta here when the heat is turned up. Looking at the history of gun laws here, they have been progressively getting less each year... until this year where they ceased. Why, because the pro constitutional AMERICANS of this state squelched that crap. And how did we do it? Not by running away. so the basis of capitalism and speaking with your wallet is cowardice? I for one have nothing against those fighting anti gun laws in california. I applaud you and wish you the best. I just think that moving to a free state and letting that one collapse is the best way to end what is going on in California. I understand it is your home and you are willing to go the long haul but if Arizona went full retard I would save up and move somewhere that wasn't going full retard. I still think that the rural half of califoria should force a separation from the coastal cities and form a new state. That seems like the best alternative if you want to reference the founders of this country. The founders didn't try to change britain. They forged their own country. The urban centers of california are lost and are oppressing the rest of the state. Change your battle tactics if you want to win . Urban centers of California are lost. There is a Mega-shit-ton of herp derp going on there. However, coastal CA has a lot of conservative strongholds. Newport Beach, Dana Point, Huntington Beach, Newport Coast for starters are key coastal CA cities that are heavily conservative. Legislators in California are feeling capitalist pressure on they wayward politics with the mass exodus of corporations bailing out of this state. I feel sorry for the workers that lost their jobs but business is business and they HAVE to leave due to erroneous environmental rules and obnoxious business regulations. Even former San Francisco mayor Gavin Newsom is realizing this NOW. He even had to go to Texas recently and asked first hand "WHY" are California businesses migrating there... he and his entourage got an earful. You are saying to "Change your battle tactics if you want to win" Isn't that what we are doing from tactics of just a mere 10 years ago? When you are losing 10-1, you have to tie the game first before scoring to win. It's tied. As said earlier, there are a bunch of pro gun bills being worked on AS WELL AS fighting unconstitutional laws that have been passed. Please check CRPA (California Rifle & Pistol Association) Calguns.net, California NRA-ILA websites for more detailed info if you are interested. okay Ill give you the benefit of the doubt . the last california elections though.......... brown turd.......... just hard to have hope. Maybe you guys will be able to lead the way out of thee mess but damn.......... |
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