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Posted: 3/16/2011 3:55:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/16/2011 3:56:38 PM EDT
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no. it really is a cardboard box. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 3:57:31 PM EDT
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I believe it happened. Just pick which of the 27 different stories that have circulated over the last several years.
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Posted: 3/16/2011 3:57:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/16/2011 3:57:42 PM EDT
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Quoted: no. it really is a cardboard box. the man speaks the truth.... |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 3:57:45 PM EDT
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Looks like cardboard to me.
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Posted: 3/16/2011 3:57:53 PM EDT
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your sig line lies. one word... girl scout cookies. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 3:58:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/16/2011 3:58:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/16/2011 3:59:02 PM EDT
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I don't know, but just from looking at the picture I am thinking that a .357 magnum even a proof load, just doesn't have the power to do that kind of damage, not even with the barrel welded shut. The cylinder would have had to fail in several places for it to be broken into two or more pieces, and then the frame would have also had to fail at a crucial point. Smith and Wesson are fairly well known for making a fairly robust revolver, and this could only be the result of a perfect storm of manufacturing defects by not only Smith and Wesson, but the owner, and the ammo manufacturer.
ETA: It also looks like there is little to no deformation of the forcing cone, if there was enough pressure to do all of this damage, you would certainly expect to see the forcing cone sustain some damage. Also, wouldn't the bullet of the round in the chambers not lined up with the barrel be severely deformed from having been cooked off (if they were destroyed by the catastrophic failure, with all of the hot gasses flying around the powder in the other chambers would have been ignited causing them to at least have scorch marks on them). |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 3:59:20 PM EDT
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Quoted: your sig line lies. one word... girl scout cookies. Wookie says those make you fat plus you can only get them at the mall now |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 3:59:42 PM EDT
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It looks like normal revolver overcharge damage to me.
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Posted: 3/16/2011 4:00:09 PM EDT
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Don't know about the gun but that looks like a standard police firearm evidence box. Possibly made by Sirchie.
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Posted: 3/16/2011 4:00:35 PM EDT
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Quoted: I don't know, but just from looking at the picture I am thinking that a .357 magnum even a proof load, just doesn't have the power to do that kind of damage, not even with the barrel welded shut. I believe it's a .41 magnum. ETA:Wrong pics. This one is a .44 mag. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 4:00:39 PM EDT
[#14]
Glock makes a revolver?
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Posted: 3/16/2011 4:01:21 PM EDT
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no. it really is a cardboard box. I say it is a corrugated box |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 4:02:05 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Glock makes a revolver? 
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Posted: 3/16/2011 4:02:15 PM EDT
[#17]
Cardboard box sounds about right to me. Anything else is a dupe to the 10th power.
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Posted: 3/16/2011 4:03:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/16/2011 4:04:49 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: your sig line lies. one word... girl scout cookies. Wookie says those make you fat plus you can only get them at the mall now I got some at Lowers this morning. Wookie can suck it. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 4:07:02 PM EDT
[#20]
Eye sea whut yoo did thar.
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Posted: 3/16/2011 4:11:48 PM EDT
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Back in the old days I had in my hands a half dozen revolvers like that - S&W, Colt, Charter Arms, small frame, medium frame, large frame - all blown up by .38 wadcutter reloads. Back then .38 wadcutters were cranked out by the millions and brass was turned in by the 55 gallon drum. Every once in a while ............. kaboom, and it didn't matter in the slightest how weak or how strong the revolver was.
They never have truly figured out the Bullseye powder "detonation" phenomenon with low powder charges, 3.0 grains or less. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 4:12:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/16/2011 4:28:06 PM EDT
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Glock makes a revolver? Yup thats the problem with .40 Glocks. I wouldn't own one if someone paid me a million bucks. 
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Posted: 3/16/2011 6:49:50 PM EDT
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I guy I knew blew up a Ruger Super Redhawk. He would regularly load rounds 4-8 grains over max because he didn't think that max load was hot enough!
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Posted: 3/16/2011 6:54:45 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Back in the old days I had in my hands a half dozen revolvers like that - S&W, Colt, Charter Arms, small frame, medium frame, large frame - all blown up by .38 wadcutter reloads. Back then .38 wadcutters were cranked out by the millions and brass was turned in by the 55 gallon drum. Every once in a while ............. kaboom, and it didn't matter in the slightest how weak or how strong the revolver was. They never have truly figured out the Bullseye powder "detonation" phenomenon with low powder charges, 3.0 grains or less. Thanks for reminding me why Bullseye is not my preferred powder for .38 Special. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 7:00:59 PM EDT
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It looks like it was only loaded with three rounds. My first thought was that it looked like someone may have heated the gun up until the rounds blew
 . Also there seems to be a distinct lack of powder burn marks, especially on the bullet that is still in it
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Posted: 3/16/2011 7:05:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: I don't know, but just from looking at the picture I am thinking that a .357 magnum even a proof load, just doesn't have the power to do that kind of damage, not even with the barrel welded shut. The cylinder would have had to fail in several places for it to be broken into two or more pieces, and then the frame would have also had to fail at a crucial point. Smith and Wesson are fairly well known for making a fairly robust revolver, and this could only be the result of a perfect storm of manufacturing defects by not only Smith and Wesson, but the owner, and the ammo manufacturer. ETA: It also looks like there is little to no deformation of the forcing cone, if there was enough pressure to do all of this damage, you would certainly expect to see the forcing cone sustain some damage. Also, wouldn't the bullet of the round in the chambers not lined up with the barrel be severely deformed from having been cooked off (if they were destroyed by the catastrophic failure, with all of the hot gasses flying around the powder in the other chambers would have been ignited causing them to at least have scorch marks on them). It's a .44 Magnum. 629. And from the looks of it, the bullet is a 240 grain XTP. 12-14 grains of Bullseye (a double load) could probably easily do that. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 7:07:57 PM EDT
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Quoted: Yup thats the problem with .40 Glocks. I wouldn't own one if someone paid me a million bucks. You should inform the 60% of U.S. PD's that issue them. I'm sure they'd like to know... |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 7:32:47 PM EDT
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It looks like normal revolver overcharge damage to me. A pretty classic double charge of fast burning powder.I had a chance to examine a Model 19 which destroyed in similar fashion. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 7:34:13 PM EDT
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At least it wasn't a no-lock model.
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Posted: 3/16/2011 7:34:57 PM EDT
[#31]
DAMN!
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Posted: 3/16/2011 7:52:01 PM EDT
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Quoted:
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Glock makes a revolver? Yup thats the problem with .40 Glocks. I wouldn't own one if someone paid me a million bucks.
Your loss. Fine weapon. I have 3. Edit: not going to hijack because someone's talking out their....well, you know. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:12:49 PM EDT
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the 2nd pic. looks like it has some type of L.E or court paperwork. looks real to me.....
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:18:36 PM EDT
[#34]
that's generally how wheel guns blow
have seen about a half dozen like that over the years at work here was the last one still had pics in my phone    |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:25:06 PM EDT
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Related thought... Am I the only one that just loads one round in a gun the first time they shoot it, or a new load?
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:38:29 PM EDT
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Quoted: Related thought... Am I the only one that just loads one round in a gun the first time they shoot it, or a new load? Nope. I do the same. |
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