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Posted: 3/16/2011 12:34:05 PM EDT
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I have seen worse.
While working in North St Louis I saw wonderful things done with jumper cables, duct tape and extension cords. |
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I've seen much worse. In some of the really poor parts of Tijuana, people use bent table forks taped to extension cords to tap into overhead power lines.
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I've seen shit that scared the hell out of me. Unfortunately I usually didn't see it until I had the dead front off a panel or a box open.
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I've seen much worse. In some of the really poor parts of Tijuana, people use bent table forks taped to extension cords to tap into overhead power lines. Thats cheating.. you cant say Mexico and compare it to wiring in the US.. |
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Probably been working fine for years and this, ladies and gentlemen, is why stuff burns down |
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I walked into one of our offices that was being renovated. Someone had taken the outlet box out of the wall and had the power wire pulled out several inches. He then took the bare ends of the hot and neutral wires and stuck them through the holes in the end of a power strip's power plug and twist-tied them on. He was then running tools off the power strip. Not even any tape or anything. Just live, bare wires sitting there only a half inch from bare neutral.
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LoL @ surge protector.....it's a power strip fuzz nuts. That's some Class A wiring right there. I have seen a lot worse than that. |
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He has a roof made of of particle board also. Double fail in one structure.
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The Fire Marshals AAR when that place burns down is going to be awesome.
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Probably been working fine for years and would continue to work for another 100. |
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Yup, seen that kinda shit before. Funny part is the owners are usually a professional something.
It pisses them off when you tell them how fkn stupid they are in a nice way. |
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Is This the World’s Worst Home Wiring Job Ever? No. The ignoramuses where I grew up are still wiring their shacks with appliance cord. |
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Quoted: I've seen worse... ...in Afghanistan. I've even seen worse in a bar in Houston. |
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The correct term for wire joined together outside a box as shown in the video is a "flying splice".
Thank you for your support. I've seen similar attempts at electrification. Before I had my EC license I once lost a job because I wouldn't "just run wire through the wall". When I told him that (and much of what Iw as seeing in his house) didn't comply to the code in force then - or when the house was built - I was told that it shouldn't matter... after all, (I) "wasn't licensed, so what did (I) care?" I told the homeowner "They may bust me for doing unlicensed work, but they'll never bust me for doing unlicensed work in an unsafe fashion". These days I just tell them it's not code, I'm not endagering my license or making more work for myself as a firefighter and they want to do so they can find some non-english speaker to do it any way they want to. |
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Eh, that wasn't so bad (I mean not as bad as I expected). Is it code? Hell, it's probably not covered by code. It's a long-ass, ghetto, homemade extension cord. If it was wired into the panel, he'd have code issues.
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He said it's in Everett. Assuming Everett, WA, it's too wet there to have a high fire danger. It's good to go.
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He has a roof made of of particle board also. Double fail in one structure. that looks like OSB to me which is normal for a roof. |
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I took these in the Philippines. I'd hate to be the guy that had to figure this out. http:////www.hillierr.com/arfcom/wires01.jpg http:////www.hillierr.com/arfcom/wires02.jpg those red X's look dangerous. |
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He has a roof made of of particle board also. Double fail in one structure. i'm guessing you haven't been around much wood? |
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Quoted: Quoted: I took these in the Philippines. I'd hate to be the guy that had to figure this out. http:////www.hillierr.com/arfcom/wires01.jpg http:////www.hillierr.com/arfcom/wires02.jpg those red X's look dangerous. Huh? They show up just fine here. |
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The tard that owned my house before me
must have fancied himself as an "elect-tric-ian" |
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My head hurts.
I have made a lot of money helping fix shit like that. We call it "Bubba work." |
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At least there's a box. I've seen a lot worse.
I worked on a house a number of years back where the 220 line was spliced together with electrical tape and hanging down right in front of a doorway. You literally had to duck under a hot 220 line to get into the laundry room. Fucking dumbass harry homeowner.
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I used to do IT consulting. A guy wanted to extend ethernet from the main building to an outbuilding on the property about 150 feet away. He ran cat5 looped over the power line going into the building.
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Quoted: Eh, that wasn't so bad (I mean not as bad as I expected). Is it code? Hell, it's probably not covered by code. It's a long-ass, ghetto, homemade extension cord. If it was wired into the panel, he'd have code issues. It's covered by code for about a dozen reasons actually. Had they not used a mile of electrical tape, poorly gauged wire for the initial run, a light switch that may or may not be rated for the motor load, poorly placed splices with no mechanical support / protection and oh I could go on but I won't, it actually could be somewhat "safe" as a temporary solution while still being a massive fucking code violation. The first time they are doing yard work and bump into that NM cable with something sharp/heavy, or have a party and some drunk guy bangs into the fence, or a lawnmower hucks a rock in a bad direction, or moisture consumes their fantastic splice job, or some idiot kid tries to hang cats tied to each others tails to watch them fight on it (these people have the type of kids who will do it, I guaran-fucking-tee you, its goddamn genetic with these types) or one of literally thousands of things I could list goes wrong, they will have a problem ranging from either a minor nuisance, to loss of life and property. But I'm sure until that day comes everything will be perfectly fine. This is coming from a guy who has regularly violated housing codes across the board. But I don't go full retard. Never go full retard. |
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He has a roof made of of particle board also. Double fail in one structure. It's called OSB (Oriented Strand Board) and roof sheathing is one of the things its made for. To keep uniformity of quality with teh wiring he should have used MDF. Turn in your contractor's license. |
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That was a letdown. I was expecting to see some sort of death adder or goblin jump out at the camera at the end.
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Prime example of why you get a home inspection when you buy a house unless you really know your stuff.
After I bought my house I noticed there was a 30 amp 110v breaker on the run out to the garage. So naturally I replaced it with a 20 amp thinking 30 wasn't safe for the wiring, and promptly started blowing the breaker every time I ran a saw with the lights on. Then looked a little closer and noticed the power feed to the garage was 12ga _interior rated_ Romex hanging in the air between the buildings which had degraded to the point the cladding was crumbling off. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Eh, that wasn't so bad (I mean not as bad as I expected). Is it code? Hell, it's probably not covered by code. It's a long-ass, ghetto, homemade extension cord. If it was wired into the panel, he'd have code issues. It's covered by code for about a dozen reasons actually. Had they not used a mile of electrical tape, poorly gauged wire for the initial run, a light switch that may or may not be rated for the motor load, poorly placed splices with no mechanical support / protection and oh I could go on but I won't, it actually could be somewhat "safe" as a temporary solution while still being a massive fucking code violation. The first time they are doing yard work and bump into that NM cable with something sharp/heavy, or have a party and some drunk guy bangs into the fence, or a lawnmower hucks a rock in a bad direction, or moisture consumes their fantastic splice job, or some idiot kid tries to hang cats tied to each others tails to watch them fight on it (these people have the type of kids who will do it, I guaran-fucking-tee you, its goddamn genetic with these types) or one of literally thousands of things I could list goes wrong, they will have a problem ranging from either a minor nuisance, to loss of life and property. But I'm sure until that day comes everything will be perfectly fine. This is coming from a guy who has regularly violated housing codes across the board. But I don't go full retard. Never go full retard. Not saying it's not awful, and not saying bad shit isn't bound to happen to it, I'm just saying that it's technically an extension cord that the dude has left out. Hell, I've run over extension cords with lawn mowers and cut them with snowplows. People do stupid shit with extension cords. Does code cover super-duper crappy extension cords? Could EXPCustom call code enforcement on me if I have an extension cord running across my lawn to power Christmas lights? I honestly don't know. |
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Eh, that wasn't so bad (I mean not as bad as I expected). Is it code? Hell, it's probably not covered by code. It's a long-ass, ghetto, homemade extension cord. If it was wired into the panel, he'd have code issues. It's covered by code for about a dozen reasons actually. Had they not used a mile of electrical tape, poorly gauged wire for the initial run, a light switch that may or may not be rated for the motor load, poorly placed splices with no mechanical support / protection and oh I could go on but I won't, it actually could be somewhat "safe" as a temporary solution while still being a massive fucking code violation. The first time they are doing yard work and bump into that NM cable with something sharp/heavy, or have a party and some drunk guy bangs into the fence, or a lawnmower hucks a rock in a bad direction, or moisture consumes their fantastic splice job, or some idiot kid tries to hang cats tied to each others tails to watch them fight on it (these people have the type of kids who will do it, I guaran-fucking-tee you, its goddamn genetic with these types) or one of literally thousands of things I could list goes wrong, they will have a problem ranging from either a minor nuisance, to loss of life and property. But I'm sure until that day comes everything will be perfectly fine. This is coming from a guy who has regularly violated housing codes across the board. But I don't go full retard. Never go full retard. Not saying it's not awful, and not saying bad shit isn't bound to happen to it, I'm just saying that it's technically an extension cord that the dude has left out. Hell, I've run over extension cords with lawn mowers and cut them with snowplows. People do stupid shit with extension cords. Does code cover super-duper crappy extension cords? Could EXPCustom call code enforcement on me if I have an extension cord running across my lawn to power Christmas lights? I honestly don't know. 400.8 Uses Not Permitted. Unless specifically permitted in 400.7, flexible cords and cables shall not be used for the following: (1) As a substitute for the fixed wiring of a structure The NEC considers extensions cords to be temporary wiring only. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Eh, that wasn't so bad (I mean not as bad as I expected). Is it code? Hell, it's probably not covered by code. It's a long-ass, ghetto, homemade extension cord. If it was wired into the panel, he'd have code issues. It's covered by code for about a dozen reasons actually. Had they not used a mile of electrical tape, poorly gauged wire for the initial run, a light switch that may or may not be rated for the motor load, poorly placed splices with no mechanical support / protection and oh I could go on but I won't, it actually could be somewhat "safe" as a temporary solution while still being a massive fucking code violation. The first time they are doing yard work and bump into that NM cable with something sharp/heavy, or have a party and some drunk guy bangs into the fence, or a lawnmower hucks a rock in a bad direction, or moisture consumes their fantastic splice job, or some idiot kid tries to hang cats tied to each others tails to watch them fight on it (these people have the type of kids who will do it, I guaran-fucking-tee you, its goddamn genetic with these types) or one of literally thousands of things I could list goes wrong, they will have a problem ranging from either a minor nuisance, to loss of life and property. But I'm sure until that day comes everything will be perfectly fine. This is coming from a guy who has regularly violated housing codes across the board. But I don't go full retard. Never go full retard. Not saying it's not awful, and not saying bad shit isn't bound to happen to it, I'm just saying that it's technically an extension cord that the dude has left out. Hell, I've run over extension cords with lawn mowers and cut them with snowplows. People do stupid shit with extension cords. Does code cover super-duper crappy extension cords? Could EXPCustom call code enforcement on me if I have an extension cord running across my lawn to power Christmas lights? I honestly don't know. 400.8 Uses Not Permitted. Unless specifically permitted in 400.7, flexible cords and cables shall not be used for the following: (1) As a substitute for the fixed wiring of a structure Thanks. |
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I took these in the Philippines. I'd hate to be the guy that had to figure this out. http:////www.hillierr.com/arfcom/wires01.jpg http:////www.hillierr.com/arfcom/wires02.jpg those red X's look dangerous. Huh? They show up just fine here. negative.. still red X's. if you look at the URL you listed it has 4 forward slashes instead of two... it should look like http://www.hillierr.com/arfcom/wires02.jpg Not http:////www.hillierr.com/arfcom/wires02.jpg |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Eh, that wasn't so bad (I mean not as bad as I expected). Is it code? Hell, it's probably not covered by code. It's a long-ass, ghetto, homemade extension cord. If it was wired into the panel, he'd have code issues. It's covered by code for about a dozen reasons actually. Had they not used a mile of electrical tape, poorly gauged wire for the initial run, a light switch that may or may not be rated for the motor load, poorly placed splices with no mechanical support / protection and oh I could go on but I won't, it actually could be somewhat "safe" as a temporary solution while still being a massive fucking code violation. The first time they are doing yard work and bump into that NM cable with something sharp/heavy, or have a party and some drunk guy bangs into the fence, or a lawnmower hucks a rock in a bad direction, or moisture consumes their fantastic splice job, or some idiot kid tries to hang cats tied to each others tails to watch them fight on it (these people have the type of kids who will do it, I guaran-fucking-tee you, its goddamn genetic with these types) or one of literally thousands of things I could list goes wrong, they will have a problem ranging from either a minor nuisance, to loss of life and property. But I'm sure until that day comes everything will be perfectly fine. This is coming from a guy who has regularly violated housing codes across the board. But I don't go full retard. Never go full retard. Not saying it's not awful, and not saying bad shit isn't bound to happen to it, I'm just saying that it's technically an extension cord that the dude has left out. Hell, I've run over extension cords with lawn mowers and cut them with snowplows. People do stupid shit with extension cords. Does code cover super-duper crappy extension cords? Could EXPCustom call code enforcement on me if I have an extension cord running across my lawn to power Christmas lights? I honestly don't know. Code actually does cover crappy extension cords, even more so when you staple one to a fence. You also can't have extension cords that are hand spliced with electrical tape. Also using an extension cord in a manner outside of it's intended purpose probably opens up the door for UL / "Manufactures instructions" clauses which open the door for more code violations. Garage door openers are fixtures, therefore they are covered under a number of sections in the NEC. Since the outdoor outlets are accessible, it must also be a GFCI circuit. If you are adhering to post 2008 NEC, ALL garage outlets must be GFCI, accessible or not. An actual electrician could literally go on for paragraphs listing the things that are 1. Code violations. 2. Sanity violations. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I took these in the Philippines. I'd hate to be the guy that had to figure this out. http:////www.hillierr.com/arfcom/wires01.jpg http:////www.hillierr.com/arfcom/wires02.jpg those red X's look dangerous. Huh? They show up just fine here. negative.. still red X's. if you look at the URL you listed it has 4 forward slashes instead of two... it should look like http://www.hillierr.com/arfcom/wires02.jpg Not http:////www.hillierr.com/arfcom/wires02.jpg I see the pictures fine here, also. I saw the extra slashes in your quote, but assumed he fixed them and that's why I could see them. |
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I took these in the Philippines. I'd hate to be the guy that had to figure this out. http:////www.hillierr.com/arfcom/wires01.jpg http:////www.hillierr.com/arfcom/wires02.jpg those red X's look dangerous. Huh? They show up just fine here. negative.. still red X's. if you look at the URL you listed it has 4 forward slashes instead of two... it should look like http://www.hillierr.com/arfcom/wires02.jpg Not http:////www.hillierr.com/arfcom/wires02.jpg I see the pictures fine here, also. I saw the extra slashes in your quote, but assumed he fixed them and that's why I could see them. weird.. Even when i copy and paste that into a browser i get improperly formed URL messages.. That should not work (with four slashes).. Either way i saw the pics and that looks scary.. |
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Quoted: weird.. Even when i copy and paste that into a browser i get improperly formed URL messages.. That should not work (with four slashes).. Either way i saw the pics and that looks scary.. What browser? I think my version of Firefox (or one of my countless plugins) recognizes the malformed URL and magically fixes it behind the scenes. |
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Quoted: Quoted: weird.. Even when i copy and paste that into a browser i get improperly formed URL messages.. That should not work (with four slashes).. Either way i saw the pics and that looks scary.. What browser? I think my version of Firefox (or one of my countless plugins) recognizes the malformed URL and magically fixes it behind the scenes. Could be, Firefox here. I have the linkification plug-in, not sure if that does anything. |
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