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Posted: 5/10/2002 12:48:08 PM EDT
[#1]
whew!
Good scare, you had [i]me[/i] going there.... |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 12:55:28 PM EDT
[#2]
glad to hear he is ok. i got a son as well so i can sympathize.
remember though, those head wounds though not serious at times, bleed like a s.o.b. enough to put the scare to ya. |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 1:05:39 PM EDT
[#3]
After I posted this I read everybody else's bad 5/9 posts. Sounds like a bad day was had by all.
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Posted: 5/10/2002 1:44:56 PM EDT
[#4]
Super glue instead of stitches! Now I know what I will use the next time I have a bad cut. Screw the doctor, just bust out the super glue and I'll be good to go!
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Posted: 5/10/2002 1:54:24 PM EDT
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My wife slammed the door of my F-150 shut on her finger, I took her to the ER and we waited 6 HOURS till she saw anyone! The waiting room was empty too...the best part is we were in the ER for 8 hours all together and they sent me a bill for $900 (I don't have insurance) and all they did was put in 3 freaking stiches, yes 3 stiches and it was $900. I will pay them...but it will be a long time till it's all paid off....a LONG time
There was a comedian once that said he went to the hospital and was in the waiting room so long that when the nurse came and asked how he planned to pay for his procedure he said "With my LIFE if you don't hurry" [:D] |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 2:24:30 PM EDT
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Some people over-react to things. My wife sent me a page "911" while I was deer hunting on the other side of the creek last fall. It's like freaking way below zero and I ran up to the edge of the creak in contemplation of swimming across to save some time (images of something really bad that could have happened to her or my son in the front of my mind).......
Good thing I didn't. After running all the way home, my wife said her car made funny noises and it needed to go to the shop. After a little discussion..... we're on the same sheet of music now about what constitutes a "911" page... |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 2:34:28 PM EDT
[#7]
You're lucky there wasn't a child abuse issue here. People these days are so quick to jump on parents when their children get hurt.
Glad your son was ok. |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 2:49:15 PM EDT
[#8]
I got the frantic woman call LMAO |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 3:28:10 PM EDT
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Quoted: Super glue instead of stitches! Now I know what I will use the next time I have a bad cut. Screw the doctor, just bust out the super glue and I'll be good to go! Yep.. and it's only cost you a buck fifty or so hehe. Actually I've gotten stitches so many times now I was thinking of just buying some suture packs and doing it myself next time! |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 3:33:47 PM EDT
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Quoted: You're lucky there wasn't a child abuse issue here. People these days are so quick to jump on parents when their children get hurt. Ya I was wondering the same thing... you should see this kid. I swear he is trying to kill himself. So, the thing I was worried about is that he had another bruise on his head from a couple days ago, and I have heard stories of ER personnel going cookoo about "child abuse". I'm convinced those people never had kids, especially little boys who don't want to sit and play with dollies, they want to climb the stairs, or climb on chairs, try and climb on the table, or the counter tops, or the stereo system, etc. etc. etc!!! Little toddlers have no fear. |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 3:43:56 PM EDT
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If you ever saw a little kid beat senseless, you will dont hesitate the next time you suspect something. A little nine year old boy pissed his dad off. He beat the little guy with a belt. The belt had a large metal buckle on it. I had to examine this kid and treat him. Broke my heart. He was very stoic and did even cry. He was covered with bruises of different ages. NO ONE has a right to hurt a defenseless kid. I will report anyone that I suspect. I rather report and be wrong than miss one and be responsible for the kid dying.
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Posted: 5/10/2002 3:55:37 PM EDT
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The topic of abuse is touchy.
My daughter tripped going down the steps of our home and skinned her nose and had a slightly black eye. She has also had a broken finger. Luckly, no one has ever asked about abuse. If someone EVER tried that line with me, there would be hell to pay. Nothing wrong with spanking a kid if they need it (even with a belt), as long as you do your damndest to hit the butt. God knows that I had belt marks on my back and legs from trying to get away. But the abuse angle is overplayed alot in my opinion. If someone had Social Services come out to my house, they would be escorted out under arms. Plain and simple. |
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Posted: 5/12/2002 3:04:52 PM EDT
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Quoted: If you ever saw a little kid beat senseless, you will dont hesitate the next time you suspect something. A little nine year old boy pissed his dad off. He beat the little guy with a belt. The belt had a large metal buckle on it. I had to examine this kid and treat him. Broke my heart. [B]He was very stoic and did even cry.[/B] He was covered with bruises of different ages. NO ONE has a right to hurt a defenseless kid. I will report anyone that I suspect. I rather report and be wrong than miss one and be responsible for the kid dying. Ya that reminds me, one individual at the ER stated to us the ones to worry about are the kids that don't cry, 90% of the time it indicates physical abuse. |
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Posted: 5/12/2002 4:38:44 PM EDT
[#14]
SNorman...You should seriously think about getting some training for your wife. If she "goes to pieces" over a small thing like a cut (kids get cut all the time and you can expect much worse as they get older, BTDT). How will she react if something major happens? Will she be useful or a hindrance in that emergency? Sit down with her and run through various scenarios. Program her until her response becomes automatic, it could save her life (your kids too).
What would she do in a: Traffic accident? House fire? Robbery? Burgulary? Tornado? Earthquake? Flood? Drowning? Fall? Electrocution? Poisoning? Well, you get the idea. A little war story about a woman who "lost it" during an emergency. I worked in a Burbank office building during the October 1986 earthquake. One woman "lost it" and literally fell to the floor quivering and would not move. Two men had to carry her out of the building to the emergency assembly point. It was 20 minutes before she could sit up and talk. She was worse than useless and actually a hazard to those who had to rescue her. You need to make sure your wife reacts appropriately in an emergency. Train, train, train until her reaction becomes second nature. |
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Posted: 5/12/2002 4:49:24 PM EDT
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I was an MP patrolman in some area of Germany.
Got a call, man on deployment to Bosnia and wife beating 3YO child at all times. The MPIs were off jerking off and investigating teenage girls necking with boys again and CID is too busy showing each other their creds to help out, so we take it. The kid is bruised, mom freaks cause the police are there, the downstairs wife is giving us 'about time' stuff on the stairs cause upstairs mom throws the boy all round, loud noises, covered with bruises, never cries... Anyway, taking all upstairs mom's info and her statement and waiting for the social worker from family service or whatever they called it that week to get there... we are at the table with mom, kid grabs sheet, mom tries to get up and stop him but misses, he runs over the couch and leaps off the back into the air like superman, bellyflops on the wood floor. Must have fallen 4 feet. Gets up runs off, she chases, bounces off a wall. Turns out the kid had mental problems about pain and huting himself. Liked to crash into things, and mom had to watch him 24/7. The army doctors knew about it, but did their usual fine job of providing patient care and social support to an enlisted family member, so mom was on her own. The social worker was going to consider helping, but I doubt anything happened. |
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Posted: 5/12/2002 5:11:53 PM EDT
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here is the rule guys:
[red][size=5]DON'T GO TO THE E.R. UNLESS YOU DYING!!![/size=5][/red] because as you found out they will "chair" you. They are saving people that are dying. a plastic surgeon or a orthopedist will charge you at most $150.00 to fix almost all problems. sorry your son was hurt but if he was not dizzy or vomiting (concussion ) he should not have gone to the E.R. it was a bump on the head. our parents would have wiped the blood off and told us to be more careful. |
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Posted: 5/12/2002 6:49:05 PM EDT
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Quoted: here is the rule guys: [red][size=5]DON'T GO TO THE E.R. UNLESS YOU DYING!!![/size=5][/red] [rolleyes] with all due respect, how are we supposed to know we're dying unless we go to the ER?????? and in the meantime, a poor kid has to wait a day, maybe two, to get in to see an orthopedist to set the broken arm???? what are you supposed to say: "my kid broke his arm. can i make an appointment to come in and have it set?" don't you think they'll say "go to the ER"??????? i suppose you would have told me to take some pepto when my appendix burst! sorry your son was hurt but if he was not dizzy or vomiting (concussion ) he should not have gone to the E.R. it was a bump on the head. our parents would have wiped the blood off and told us to be more careful. easy for you to second guess their decision. wouldn't you feel like an ass if they followed your advice and he ended up really bad? |
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Posted: 5/12/2002 7:12:01 PM EDT
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Agreed with DnPRK and ARLady.
Anybody who is in the position of overseeing a lifeform with next to no judgement should have some kind of medical assessment training/skills. Practice the what-ifs. If you know something about the psychology of fear, this will help when she starts freezing up in her responses to your drills. It is absolutely vital that she be able to respond properly and immediately. Losing even a second could mean the difference between losing the baby, and saving his/her life, or, it could turn a short recovery time into a long, grueling recovery - if at all. The human body is rather complex, and every body is different. Head wounds have a tendancy to bleed a lot, and can be difficult to stop. Taking a bleeding baby to the ER is quite permissible. Newborns have mere OUNCES of blood and not much room to be bleeding. If you get to the ER and get triaged as low priority, then you have done your job as a parent. Professionals have seen the patient with their own two eyes and graded the situation as not real bad. Medical help is seconds away if a problem develops, instead of several minutes away. I never second guessed anybody who showed up at the ER, when I was there. |
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Posted: 5/12/2002 7:50:36 PM EDT
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Quoted: with all due respect, how are we supposed to know we're dying unless we go to the ER?????? and in the meantime, a poor kid has to wait a day, maybe two, to get in to see an orthopedist to set the broken arm???? what are you supposed to say: "my kid broke his arm. can I make an appointment to come in and have it set?" don't you think they'll say "go to the ER"??????? no, you say my son broke his arm and we need to make an appointment to see the doctor today. they will say bring him in now or they will send you to someone that can see him immediately. I suppose you would have told me to take some pepto when my appendix burst! when your appendix burst it probably felt like someone was sticking a white hot poker in your guts. much different from any upset stomach you have ever had. that is your body telling you it's E.R. time. easy for you to second guess their decision. wouldn't you feel like an ass if they followed your advice and he ended up really bad? all I am saying is learn the signs of illnesses so you can stay out of the E.R. as much as possible. if the kid had signs of a serious concussion he would have been admitted immediately, had a battery of tests including a CT or MRI as it was I bet a doctor did little more than "glance" at him before he sent him to the lobby. |
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Posted: 5/12/2002 9:05:21 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted: SNorman...You should seriously think about getting some training for your wife. If she "goes to pieces" over a small thing like a cut (kids get cut all the time and you can expect much worse as they get older, BTDT). How will she react if something major happens? Will she be useful or a hindrance in that emergency? Sit down with her and run through various scenarios. Program her until her response becomes automatic, it could save her life (your kids too). What would she do in a: Traffic accident? House fire? Robbery? Burgulary? Tornado? Earthquake? Flood? Drowning? Fall? Electrocution? Poisoning? The only one I know for certain is earthquake, since we had one a couple years ago. And the answer is : freak out. A little war story about a woman who "lost it" during an emergency. I worked in a Burbank office building during the October 1986 earthquake. One woman "lost it" and literally fell to the floor quivering and would not move. Two men had to carry her out of the building to the emergency assembly point. It was 20 minutes before she could sit up and talk. She was worse than useless and actually a hazard to those who had to rescue her. You need to make sure your wife reacts appropriately in an emergency. Train, train, train until her reaction becomes second nature. Damn womenz. |
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Posted: 5/12/2002 9:08:58 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted: sorry your son was hurt but if he was not dizzy or vomiting (concussion ) he should not have gone to the E.R. it was a bump on the head. our parents would have wiped the blood off and told us to be more careful. Hey moron, he had a cut that would have required probably 2 stitches in his head to close (except they used the glue). Is that just a "bump on the head"? What did your parents do when they "wiped the blood off" but it kept coming out, did they dock your allowance for not having enough blood clotting agents. |
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Posted: 5/12/2002 9:14:22 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:Hey moron, he had a cut that would have required probably 2 stitches in his head to close (except they used the glue). Is that just a "bump on the head"? What did your parents do when they "wiped the blood off" but it kept coming out, did they dock your allowance for not having enough blood clotting agents. Mom: "Oh, it's just a flesh wound, honey. You will be alright. Put a bandaid on it and think happy thoughts!" Dad: "Suck it up, wuss!" |
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Posted: 5/12/2002 9:18:56 PM EDT
[#23]
My mom always told me to "rub some dirt on it, it will quit bleeding". Farm women are really rough sometimes.
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Posted: 5/13/2002 1:14:33 PM EDT
[#24]
I have had good luck with those "urgent care" stand-alone mini-ERs for routine cuts and stuff. They don't take real serious cases and tend to take your relatively minor problems more seriously. I went one night at 9:00 when I though I broke my hand and they x-rayed me and got me out in about an hour. Not bad.
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Posted: 5/13/2002 2:41:45 PM EDT
[#25]
two stitches, wow.[rolleyes]
when I was a kid we didn't know from two stitches. we were to busy playing to worry about a little blood and if there was a lot of blood someone pulls your t-shirt or a sock off you and wraps it tightly around the wound to stop the blood and we keep on playing. I miss being a kid. sliding down white water rapids using a life jacket as an improvised boogie board. there were no parent's making you wear helmets and constantly trying to keep you a perfect little child. we were "kids" and part of growing up and becoming a a man is being able to take your lumps and not whine. I love the neosporin commercial where the little girl get's a cut and her mom patches her up and tells her not to worry. "there won't be a scar". (great little precious wont be ruined) it sounds like you are the one that need to suck it up. from the way your kid acted in the E.R. he sounds cool. if you toughen him up he will grow up to be a man and learn to take what life gives him without whining about it. |
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Posted: 5/13/2002 4:34:19 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted: it sounds like you are the one that need to suck it up. from the way your kid acted in the E.R. he sounds cool. if you toughen him up he will grow up to be a man and learn to take what life gives him without whining about it. I don't see what 1) being concerned about my own son (I had no idea how bad anything was until I saw it) and 2) not wanting him to have an ugly ass SCAR on his head has to do with "sucking it up". from the way your kid acted in the E.R. he sounds cool Little guy was running around outside yesterday and fell on the same knee three times and skinned it pretty good, poor guy. Not a peep from him. He is a tough one. |
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Posted: 5/13/2002 4:59:27 PM EDT
[#27]
Know what you mean, SNorman!
One of my luckiest days ever was the day my wife called me on my cell phone sobbing and crying. I couldn't get a darned word out of her except our 2 year old daughter had been hurt bad, and the word blood. It was my lucky day because I was less than a block away when I received the call. Nearly parked my truck through the back of the garage. Turned out my little one had been hit by a swing in the mouth. Lots of blood, nothing broken. She was doing fine. My wife was a mess. I probably would have killed somebody driving over the top of cars to get home faster had I not been so close. |
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Posted: 5/14/2002 8:15:19 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: with all due respect, how are we supposed to know we're dying unless we go to the ER?????? and in the meantime, a poor kid has to wait a day, maybe two, to get in to see an orthopedist to set the broken arm???? what are you supposed to say: "my kid broke his arm. can I make an appointment to come in and have it set?" don't you think they'll say "go to the ER"??????? no, you say my son broke his arm and we need to make an appointment to see the doctor today. they will say bring him in now or they will send you to someone that can see him immediately. and if it's 10 at night, wouldn't that be the ER?????? [rolleyes] I suppose you would have told me to take some pepto when my appendix burst! when your appendix burst it probably felt like someone was sticking a white hot poker in your guts. much different from any upset stomach you have ever had. that is your body telling you it's E.R. time. actually, no, it was one continuous pain that radiated across the entire abdomen, [b]NOT UNLIKE[/b](meaning, very much like, meaning not different from) the pain i felt when i had the stomach flu. easy for you to second guess their decision. wouldn't you feel like an ass if they followed your advice and he ended up really bad? all I am saying is learn the signs of illnesses so you can stay out of the E.R. as much as possible. if the kid had signs of a serious concussion he would have been admitted immediately, had a battery of tests including a CT or MRI as it was I bet a doctor did little more than "glance" at him before he sent him to the lobby. that might be what you meant, but that ain't what you said. i don't have a problem with your sentiment; i actually avoid the ER if i can too, simply because i have better things to do with my time than wait. what i have a problem with is A) you passing judgement for everybody else as if you were qualified or otherwise in a position to make those decisions and B) making blanket statements about the importance/usefulness of the ER regarding injuries and illnesses. from the movie [i]The Last of the Mohicans[/i], character Nathaniel: "You do what you want with your own skins; do not be telling us what to do with ours." |
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Posted: 5/14/2002 8:42:12 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted: My mom always told me to "rub some dirt on it, it will quit bleeding". Farm women are really rough sometimes. [b]ROFLMAO!!!! [/b] Love those farm moms! |
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Posted: 5/14/2002 9:01:56 AM EDT
[#30]
Goes to show why G-d made women women, and men, well,...boss!
[peep] |
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Posted: 5/14/2002 9:02:10 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted: two stitches, wow.[rolleyes] when I was a kid we didn't know from two stitches. we were to busy playing to worry about a little blood and if there was a lot of blood someone pulls your t-shirt or a sock off you and wraps it tightly around the wound to stop the blood and we keep on playing. I miss being a kid. sliding down white water rapids using a life jacket as an improvised boogie board. there were no parent's making you wear helmets and constantly trying to keep you a perfect little child. we were "kids" and part of growing up and becoming a a man is being able to take your lumps and not whine. I love the neosporin commercial where the little girl get's a cut and her mom patches her up and tells her not to worry. "there won't be a scar". (great little precious wont be ruined) it sounds like you are the one that need to suck it up. from the way your kid acted in the E.R. he sounds cool. if you toughen him up he will grow up to be a man and learn to take what life gives him without whining about it. Just out of curiosity....how many kids do you have? |
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Posted: 5/14/2002 9:45:41 AM EDT
[#32]
Our daughter cut open her finger on broken glass from a picture.
She was having the time of her life painting things in her room red. She screamed bloody murder when we tried to stop the bleeding. Trick was, it didn't stop bleeding..for over an hour. We brought her to the ER, they worked at it for a while before they finally got it to slow down enough to glue it up. I do a lot of self treatment and always have done. I reduceded my own dislocated shoulder once. I set a broken finger or two. Self-treated a deep puncture wound in my thigh when I was a teenager. I set my own broken nose. treated my own cracked ribs. I just folded a chunk of flesh from a finger (ripped out by a beer bottle top that broke off in my hand as I opened the bottle) back into the hole and bandaged it closed. (I could still pull the flap out the next day, it was a big wedge of skin, fat, etc. that went straight down to the bone. Neat. However, I learned the hard way that ligament and tendon damage needs professional help to heal properly and without un-necessary scarring that can weaken or reduce strength or range of motion in the joint. So now I tend to go to the ER to rule out such damage. |
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Posted: 5/14/2002 1:17:43 PM EDT
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the finger didn’t stop bleeding for over an hour.
how did you know? were you applying direct pressure for 10 minutes and puling off the dressing to see if the wound was clotted? You probably pulled the clotted blood away from the wound causing it to bleed again. Next time try a compression dressing and leave it on for a minimum of 12 hours. |
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Posted: 5/14/2002 4:43:22 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted: the finger didn’t stop bleeding for over an hour. how did you know? were you applying direct pressure for 10 minutes and puling off the dressing to see if the wound was clotted? You probably pulled the clotted blood away from the wound causing it to bleed again. Next time try a compression dressing and leave it on for a minimum of 12 hours. great! now the poor thing is going to bleed out cuz she severed a major vessel! without knowing a thing about the wound, you sure are pretty arrogant in the "advice" you toss around. what do you care if somebody chooses to go to the ER for a bruise? it ain't your money or time? |
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Posted: 5/14/2002 5:28:01 PM EDT
[#35]
hey ARLady,
we are arguing way to much for us not to be married. there are no "major" blood vessels in the fingers. |
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Posted: 5/14/2002 6:54:44 PM EDT
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Quoted: hey ARLady, we are arguing way to much for us not to be married. there are no "major" blood vessels in the fingers. hay is for horses! i like to argue, especially with people who continually apply their standards to me and tell me i'm wrong when i'm not living up to them. define "major" then, doc! [;D] when it can't be stopped by a few minutes of good pressure (when the damn ER docs have problems staunching/stopping the flow), i'd say it was a "major" vessel. |
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Posted: 5/14/2002 7:13:38 PM EDT
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ARLady, Chester Jester has read our posts and comprehended. He is now being intentionally obtuse. Save your energy for those willing to comprehend facts. [:)]
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