"Vice" vs. "versus"

Posted: 1/25/2011 8:19:50 PM EDT

I must have missed the memo on this change. I hear "vice" used regularly and can't remember a time when it was explained why versus is no longer to be used. Am I out of the loop?

Posted: 1/25/2011 8:25:40 PM EDT

[#1]

Nevermind.

Posted: 1/25/2011 8:27:52 PM EDT

[#2]

Tag for the joke that I am surely not in on.

Posted: 1/25/2011 8:28:50 PM EDT

[#3]

I could care less.

Seriously, I think common use (right or wrong) of the term vice versa has led some to confuse vice with versus. JMHO.

Posted: 1/25/2011 8:30:36 PM EDT

[#4]

What about sans versus vice?

Posted: 1/25/2011 8:42:21 PM EDT

[#5]

Et tu, Brute?

Posted: 1/25/2011 8:45:58 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
What about sans versus vice?

Wut?

"Sans," without?

Posted: 1/25/2011 8:49:36 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
I must have missed the memo on this change. I hear "vice" used regularly and can't remember a time when it was explained why versus is no longer to be used. Am I out of the loop?

In Latin, "Vice" means "in place of". It's the ablative of vix, (change).
As an adverb, Vice means "otherwise". Versa, is the past participle of the verb Verto, meaning to turn around.
The phrase, Vice Versa or Versa Vice, means literally "otherwise turned around" or commonly, "with places exchanged".
The solo use of Vice means something different.

Posted: 1/25/2011 8:54:20 PM EDT

[#8]

You should have asked for adversus before you posted.

Posted: 1/26/2011 1:17:34 AM EDT

[#9]

I would use verses for competition vs. vice.

Posted: 1/26/2011 2:57:17 AM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:

I must have missed the memo on this change. I hear "vice" used regularly and can't remember a time when it was explained why versus is no longer to be used. Am I out of the loop?

In Latin, "Vice" means "in place of". It's the ablative of vix, (change).

As an adverb, Vice means "otherwise". Versa, is the past participle of the verb Verto, meaning to turn around.

The phrase, Vice Versa or Versa Vice, means literally "otherwise turned around" or commonly, "with places exchanged".

The solo use of Vice means something different.

OP - Your original question was a bit confusing, but I think ColonelHurtz summed things up nicely. I applaud you for choosing your words with care. The abuse of our language today is both shocking and pathetic.

Posted: 1/26/2011 3:01:30 AM EDT

[#11]

OP should have looked up his question on Google or Bing, or vice versa.

Posted: 1/26/2011 3:08:10 AM EDT

[#12]

Is that a new cable station dedicated to hookers and blow?

Posted: 1/26/2011 4:14:39 AM EDT

[#13]

Ego operor haud tutela

Posted: 1/26/2011 4:16:50 AM EDT

[#14]

Vice vis a vis versus?

Posted: 1/26/2011 4:25:54 AM EDT

[#15]

English - how's it work.

From the Latin, but a widely used word in English longer than anyone here has been alive.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vice

3 vice prep \ˈvīs also ˈvī-sē

Definition of VICE

: in the place of <I will preside, vice the absent chairman>; also : rather than
Origin of VICE

Latin, abl. of vicis change, alternation, stead — more at week
First Known Use: 1770

"Versus" is NOT used the same way, and implies an opposition or competition, not just an alternate, substitute, or replacement.

See "Vice President" also "Vicar."

Posted: 1/26/2011 4:38:21 AM EDT

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Posted: 1/26/2011 11:57:19 AM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
English - how's it work.

From the Latin, but a widely used word in English longer than anyone here has been alive.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vice

3 vice prep \ˈvīs also ˈvī-sē

Definition of VICE

: in the place of <I will preside, vice the absent chairman>; also : rather than
Origin of VICE

Latin, abl. of vicis change, alternation, stead — more at week
First Known Use: 1770

"Versus" is NOT used the same way, and implies an opposition or competition, not just an alternate, substitute, or replacement.

See "Vice President" also "Vicar."

And "viceroy".

Posted: 1/26/2011 11:58:48 AM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
I must have missed the memo on this change. I hear "vice" used regularly and can't remember a time when it was explained why versus is no longer to be used. Am I out of the loop?

If you say or write "vice" instead of "versus," you are relieved of the obligation to formally notify your audience of the fact that you are a half-wit.