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Posted: 9/10/2010 2:12:30 PM EDT
I feel advanced mathematics has ostracized me from society.
I no longer put up with bullshit. I get mad when people use "proof" language in ill conceived and stupid social science arguments. I am starting to realize just how illogical and irrational most people are. I no longer relate to most of my peers, and no longer take the majority of my fellow students seriously, who bitch about the difficulty of very easy classes. It has fucked with my brain. My brain has been rewired. Now, is that a good thing or a bad thing? I have a feeling that it even further lessons the ability to pursue the mathematical constant Pi... |
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I feel the same way, but I haven't taken trig or calc yet. I don't think high level math has much to do with it.
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Join the Army, go through all the training and learn how to work as a team effectively and efficiently.... Then try and deal with civilians on the simplist of problems.
You will want to CHOKE PEOPLE! |
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Because of the way my brain is wired, I was quite comfortable delving into advanced mathematics in school, which further wired my brain in that fashion.
Ever take one of those left/right brain tests? Before college, I always scored right down the middle. Now I'm squarely on the "left" side of the brain spectrum. Oh well. My wife gets very upset when I point out the failed logic of her rants when we argue |
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No, I was like that before.
I think what it did do, was make me more aware of having been that way before. |
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Join the Army, go through all the training and learn how to work as a team effectively and efficiently.... Then try and deal with civilians on the simplist of problems. You will want to CHOKE PEOPLE! In that same vain, imagine the looks I got when I pulled out a small Swiss Army Knife in a college chemistry lab. I needed to cut a piece of graph paper accurately, and the scissors they had sucked. |
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Join the Army, go through all the training and learn how to work as a team effectively and efficiently.... Then try and deal with civilians on the simplist of problems. You will want to CHOKE PEOPLE! No shit. Three days ago I told someone they could fuck up the working parts of a P-38 can opener. To the OP, I would say higher mathematics? No. Just simply being able to count is enough to alienate a person from a lot of the populace. |
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Yes, a lot of people will be irrational in your opinion. I would say you need to get over it- or as an alternative go live as a hermit somewhere. People have different tolerances and outlooks. Not everyone is cut out for LE work, the military, to be parents, etc. It's just the way it is. But I'm sure you are not perfect either so don't hold them to too high a standard. Don't mean to be harsh. 4073 |
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Diff EQ (Diffy-Q) kicked my ass six ways to Sunday.
Changed me in that I decided I hated math enough to get into computers to avoid math altogether. (Made sense at the time)
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Engineering made me a social recluse...
People are pretty damn stupid to start with and after college, I found them even dumber. Its not just you. ++ Edit to add: Is it bad that last night the GF's friend came over before a Concert they were going to and she asked about structures specifically vector addition (Architect Major, not A CE) and I got excited? Hard not to inject what you eat, sleep, and breath everyday for your career into daily life. |
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Quoted: Women who can do higher math are hot. I dated one and very much hated the fact that she had to help me with my calc homework. She knew I hated asking for help so would constantly rub it in. |
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Quoted: Engineering made me a social recluse... People are pretty damn stupid to start with and after college, I found them even dumber. Its not just you. ++ Edit to add: Is it bad that last night the GF's friend came over before a Concert they were going to and she asked about structures specifically vector addition (Architect Major, not A CE) and I got excited? Hard not to inject what you eat, sleep, and breath everyday for your career into daily life. College seems to make many sensible people idiots after. I think many become self inflated in the pit of universities. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Women who can do higher math are hot. I dated one and very much hated the fact that she had to help me with my calc homework. She knew I hated asking for help so would constantly rub it in. That's hot. |
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Not any more than any other experience makes you a different person.
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Quoted: lol. Quoted: Quoted: Women who can do higher math are hot. I dated one and very much hated the fact that she had to help me with my calc homework. She knew I hated asking for help so would constantly rub it in. That's hot. |
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I feel advanced mathematics has ostracized me from society. I no longer put up with bullshit. I get mad when people use "proof" language in ill conceived and stupid social science arguments. I am starting to realize just how illogical and irrational most people are. I no longer relate to most of my peers, and no longer take the majority of my fellow students seriously, who bitch about the difficulty of very easy classes. It has fucked with my brain. My brain has been rewired. Now, is that a good thing or a bad thing? I have a feeling that it even further lessons the ability to pursue the mathematical constant Pi... What is the definition of "advanced mathematics" to you? The only proof I know is in the vodka I buy |
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It will be frustrating to get people to agree with you because most people don't think on that level.
But it's not healthy to think you are superior to people. Everybody has something you can learn from. |
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But it's not healthy to think you are superior to people. Everybody has something you can learn from. Forgetting this will inevitably lead to you being reminded of it at the least opportune time.. usually in public. |
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What level of math are you engaged in that you consider 'advanced'?
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There is not a lot of room for feelings in mathematics. Bingo.Most people feel their way through life. They are often wrong. When you do the math first, you may not always make the right choice, but you will be right more often. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I feel advanced mathematics has ostracized me from society. I no longer put up with bullshit. I get mad when people use "proof" language in ill conceived and stupid social science arguments. I am starting to realize just how illogical and irrational most people are. I no longer relate to most of my peers, and no longer take the majority of my fellow students seriously, who bitch about the difficulty of very easy classes. It has fucked with my brain. My brain has been rewired. Now, is that a good thing or a bad thing? I have a feeling that it even further lessons the ability to pursue the mathematical constant Pi... http://www.inewscatcher.com/timages/3de49f5656c69529f8ba89f7531fee1b.jpg QFT. OP, stop trying to find ways to put yourself above "society." You are a part of society just as any of us is.
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My math/chem/physics background puts me in awkward positions on a daily basis. My patience with people is almost non existent. What seems clear to me baffles the shit out of almost everyone I know. I don`t play well with others. I am filthy stinking rich because of my math skills. People who really know me depend on me and expect "miracles" from me. I don`t consider them miracles at all. I do derivations for fun while shooting IFR approaches to minimums.
For even management slots ( let alone the production slots) at my firm I ALWAYS ask candidates " what is 10% of 87". Less than 20% answer without hesitation and even fewer answer without thinking at all. NO ONE gets a second look if they fail this question no matter what degree/experience/reference they bring with them. Third grade antics cause many many people to do poorly later in life. FBHO |
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How about this, for a brain twister, O_P?
Quantify people's emotionally based ideas, so that you can predict and plan for them. |
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once you hit calculus the woman start smelling funny...and dont brush their hare...
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How about this, for a brain twister, O_P? Quantify people's emotionally based ideas, so that you can predict and plan for them. Now this was just what I was talking about. Simplify the problem. Easy solutions abound. |
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Quoted: My math/chem/physics background puts me in awkward positions on a daily basis. My patience with people is almost non existent. What seems clear to me baffles the shit out of almost everyone I know. I don`t play well with others. I am filthy stinking rich because of my math skills. People who really know me depend on me and expect "miracles" from me. I don`t consider them miracles at all. I do derivations for fun while shooting IFR approaches to minimums. For even management slots ( let alone the production slots) at my firm I ALWAYS ask candidates " what is 10% of 87". Less than 20% answer without hesitation and even fewer answer without thinking at all. NO ONE gets a second look if they fail this question no matter what degree/experience/reference they bring with them. Third grade antics cause many many people to do poorly later in life. FBHO My exact response was "Uhhh, 8.7." Would I have passed? |
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Quoted: Can't tell if you like or hate.Quoted: How about this, for a brain twister, O_P? Quantify people's emotionally based ideas, so that you can predict and plan for them. Now this was just what I was talking about. Simplify the problem. Easy solutions abound. |
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My brain came pre-wired for math. Chose it as a major since it was less annoying (for me) than writing X page, double spaced, papers.
No change was observed in my obtaining a math degree. |
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once you hit calculus the woman start smelling funny...and dont brush their hare... I can't stand unkempt rabbits |
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Quoted: I feel advanced mathematics has ostracized me from society. I no longer put up with bullshit. I get mad when people use "proof" language in ill conceived and stupid social science arguments. I am starting to realize just how illogical and irrational most people are. I no longer relate to most of my peers, and no longer take the majority of my fellow students seriously, who bitch about the difficulty of very easy classes. It has fucked with my brain. My brain has been rewired. Now, is that a good thing or a bad thing? I have a feeling that it even further lessons the ability to pursue the mathematical constant Pi... Just think how engineers feel. Most of us have majors in math. We think mathematicians are main stream. |
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once you hit calculus the woman start smelling funny...and dont brush their hare... Those poor, poor rabbits... And what are you saying math does do to a woman's nose? |
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Can't tell if you like or hate.
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How about this, for a brain twister, O_P? Quantify people's emotionally based ideas, so that you can predict and plan for them. Now this was just what I was talking about. Simplify the problem. Easy solutions abound. I`ve been on a 15 day grinder. All arfcommers pass. It IS very very difficult watching the responses I get when I ask that question. Glad I`m selling out. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Can't tell if you like or hate.Quoted: How about this, for a brain twister, O_P? Quantify people's emotionally based ideas, so that you can predict and plan for them. Now this was just what I was talking about. Simplify the problem. Easy solutions abound. I`ve been on a 15 day grinder. All arfcommers pass. It IS very very difficult watching the responses I get when I ask that question. Glad I`m selling out. Your euphemisms are confusing, whole brainer. |
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Quoted: I feel advanced mathematics has ostracized me from society. I no longer put up with bullshit. I get mad when people use "proof" language in ill conceived and stupid social science arguments. I am starting to realize just how illogical and irrational most people are. I no longer relate to most of my peers, and no longer take the majority of my fellow students seriously, who bitch about the difficulty of very easy classes. It has fucked with my brain. My brain has been rewired. Now, is that a good thing or a bad thing? I have a feeling that it even further lessons the ability to pursue the mathematical constant Pi... Guy, we're just screwing with you. It's actually quite true. Certain fields of mathematics are deliberately constructed in a way that their abstractions and cognitive manipulations stimulate/activate brain pathways unavailable to "the dulls" (don't use that name publicly, BTW). You are a candidate for Ascendance. Congratulations. Of course, celibacy is required during your candidacy, as the level of your vital energy is tied (obviously, d'oh) to the level of Ascendancy attained. Light refreshments will be served in the faculty lounge. |
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Depends on how advanced you are talking about...
Dangerous Knowledge - Philosophy, Physics, Mathematics http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5122859998068380459# -3D |
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How about this, for a brain twister, O_P? Quantify people's emotionally based ideas, so that you can predict and plan for them. Now this was just what I was talking about. Simplify the problem. Easy solutions abound. I`ve been on a 15 day grinder. All arfcommers pass. It IS very very difficult watching the responses I get when I ask that question. Glad I`m selling out. Your euphemisms are confusing, whole brainer. Selling OUT of my business. The person I`ve become due the radioactive environment of self employment is a source of great pain to me. It doesn`t matter how much "GOOD" I`ve done if you don`t like yourself. |
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Quoted: What level of math are you engaged in that you consider 'advanced'? My guess is basic calc but I'm a big meanie. |
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Quoted: Selling OUT of my business. The person I`ve become due the radioactive environment of self employment is a source of great pain to me. It doesn`t matter how much "GOOD" I`ve done if you don`t like yourself. Agreed. |
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Oh well. My wife gets very upset when I point out the failed logic of her rants when we argue The last argument made was interesting from the point of view of a professional logician because it contained a number of logical fallacies; that is, invalid propositional constructions and syllogistic forms, of the type so often committed by my wife. "All wood burns," it might be stated. "Therefore," one concludes, "all that burns is wood." This is, of course, pure bullshit. Universal affirmatives can only be partially converted: all of Alma Cogan is dead, but only some of the class of dead people are Alma Cogan. "Oh yes," one would think. However, my wife does not understand this necessary limitation of the conversion of a proposition; consequently, she does not understand me. For how can a woman expect to appreciate a professor of logic, if the simplest cloth-eared syllogism causes her to flounder. For example, given the premise, "all fish live underwater" and "all mackerel are fish", my wife will conclude, not that "all mackerel live underwater", but that "if she buys kippers it will not rain", or that "trout live in trees", or even that "I do not love her any more." This she calls "using her intuition". I call it "crap", and it gets me very *irritated* because it is not logical. "There will be no supper tonight," she will sometimes cry upon my return home. "Why not?" I will ask. "Because I have been screwing the milkman all day," she will say, quite oblivious of the howling error she has made. "But," I will wearily point out, "even given that the activities of screwing the milkman and getting supper are mutually exclusive, now that the screwing is over, surely then, supper may, logically, be got." "You don't love me any more," she will now often postulate. "If you did, you would give me one now and again, so that I would not have to rely on that rancid Pakistani for my orgasms." "I will give you one after you have got me my supper," I now usually scream, "but not before" –– as you understand, making her bang contingent on the arrival of my supper. "God, you turn me on when you're angry, you ancient brute!" she now mysteriously deduces, forcing her sweetly throbbing tongue down my throat. "Fuck supper!" I now invariably conclude, throwing logic somewhat joyously to the four winds, and so we thrash about on our milk-stained floor, transported by animal passion, until we sink back, exhausted, onto the cartons of yoghurt. I'm afraid I seem to have strayed somewhat from my original brief. But in a nutshell: Sex is more fun than logic –– one cannot prove this, but it "is" in the same sense that Mount Everest "is", or that Alma Cogan "isn't". |
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