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Posted: 9/10/2010 6:06:53 AM EDT
W. Baraboo bathrooms will be gun-free zones during open carry picnic
By Brian D. Bridgeford, News Republic | Posted: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:30 am Gun-toting participants at the upcoming open firearms carry picnic will have to disarm themselves before using the bathrooms in West Baraboo's Haskins Park, village officials heard Thursday. The event's organizer is cooperating with the legal requirement and village officials don't expect any problems or disturbances. During the village board's regular meeting attorney, Mark Steichen noted both the village ordinances and state law prohibit the carrying of firearms in public buildings. When that law is applied to the Sept. 25 picnic organized by advocates of the right to carry unconcealed firearms in public, the park's restrooms are public buildings where open carry is prohibited, though the open-sided picnic pavilion is not, he said. "Is that what's really in mind for security, probably not, they're probably thinking of schools and courthouses" Steichen said. "But that's the way the law reads." There are no provisions in the law for the village board or other public official to make an exception to the law for picnic participants, he said. Village Public Works Director Bob DeMars said picnic organizers spoke with him about installing temporary portable toilets at the park. However, DeMars said he is opposed to them because of problems with vandalism. "In that case they are left overnight, they get tipped over, they get dumped into the river," he said. The West Baraboo open carry picnic is being promoted by local resident Don Marso, whom Steichen said is cooperating with the village. Marso has announced the requirements for using the bathrooms to potential picnic participants via an Internet posting, he said. "Don seems like a very reasonable guy," Steichen said. In an e-mail message to the News Republic last week Marso said he is a retired correctional officer formerly with the federal prison at Oxford. Under a federal law he has the legal right to carry a concealed handgun, but said he exercises his right to carry a gun openly to support other Wisconsin residents' right to do so. Village President Bruce Meyer said he is not concerned about the gathering of firearms enthusiasts. "We're keeping it low key, low profile," he said. "We understand what they're doing." http://www.wiscnews.com/baraboonewsrepublic/news/local/article_0eea8962-bc87-11df-ab35-001cc4c03286.html |
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So, what? You're supposed to hand your firearm over to the guy standing in line behind you before you go in and get it back when you leave?
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Just let fly against the nearest tree, instead. See how they like that.
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Sounds like a real lack of common sense going on over there. THey are going to force people to handle , clear and reload their firearms over an over at a public venue? Just to take a piss? Somone is gonna wind up getting shot by an ND
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Quoted: Sounds like a real lack of common sense going on over there. THey are going to force people to handle , clear and reload their firearms over an over at a public venue? Just to take a piss? Somone is gonna wind up getting shot by an ND If this is in Wisconsin, they lack a whole lot of common sense. They are 1 of only 2 states that deny CCW. There will either be a lot of NDs, draw downs by police because someone unholstered their weapon, or a lot of pissing in public. Quoted: Can they not have Porta-John's there? They don't want them because of possible vandalism or because they might get tipped over during the night. |
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Ohio had the same sort of problem at one time, where a similarly worded law regarding buildings owned by state, inadvertently ended up making it illegal to carry inside at a rest area - one of THE places you'd really like to carry.
The law was eventually amended to correct this. |
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Sounds like a real lack of common sense going on over there. THey are going to force people to handle , clear and reload their firearms over an over at a public venue? Just to take a piss? Somone is gonna wind up getting shot by an ND If this is in Wisconsin, they lack a whole lot of common sense. They are 1 of only 2 states that deny CCW. There will either be a lot of NDs, draw downs by police because someone unholstered their weapon, or a lot of pissing in public. Quoted:
Can they not have Porta-John's there? They don't want them because of possible vandalism or because they might get tipped over during the night. There have been other OC events with similar restrictions and not one ND yet. That said , it is an amazingly stupid restriction |
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Hang a peg board with hooks next to bathrooms, that should change their minds.
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that's so fucking gay, and a perfect example of why you don't want government restricting carry in "public places". |
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Yay, open carry. So you are going to come up here and get arrested for CCW then right? As another test case? |
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Yay, open carry. So you are going to come up here and get arrested for CCW then right? As another test case? Sure, hold your breath while you wait. |
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This needs to change. Nov 2nd. it will , we have been waiting a loooooong time for that douchneozzle doyle to leave orafice |
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Can they not have Porta-John's there? Simplest solution to this. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Anti-Gunners are much like a scorned wife during a divorce.
Absolutely anything they can do to get under your skin and score a hit. (I learned everything I know about women and divorce from Arfcom GD) |
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If you can't unholster, unload, reload, and reholster your gun without a bang you shouldn't be carrying the gun in the first place.
Still a stupid law. |
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Can they not have Porta-John's there? Simplest solution to this. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I will send you both IM's I will watch for your checks ..... |
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Well, they don't have to use the bathrooms in the park. Have to unload and encase to get in your car too |
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So, are they going to post a cop at the door to monitor who goes in and out?
Are they going to search people? Set up metal detectors? Stupid. |
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Village Public Works Director Bob DeMars said picnic organizers spoke with him about installing temporary portable toilets at the park. However, DeMars said he is opposed to them because of problems with vandalism. "In that case they are left overnight, they get tipped over, they get dumped into the river," he said. Well just declare it a "tipping over the port-a-john" free zone. Put signs up and everything. Duh. |
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The logic in this escapes me. there is no logic in wisconsin gun laws |
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Sounds like a real lack of common sense going on over there. THey are going to force people to handle , clear and reload their firearms over an over at a public venue? Just to take a piss? Somone is gonna wind up getting shot by an ND If this is in Wisconsin, they lack a whole lot of common sense. They are 1 of only 2 states that deny CCW. There will either be a lot of NDs, draw downs by police because someone unholstered their weapon, or a lot of pissing in public. Quoted:
Can they not have Porta-John's there? They don't want them because of possible vandalism or because they might get tipped over during the night. There have been other OC events with similar restrictions and not one ND yet. That said , it is an amazingly stupid restriction Yup. The Law is an Ass. We fight for freedom, them make laws to destroy it. |
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Sounds like a real lack of common sense going on over there. THey are going to force people to handle , clear and reload their firearms over an over at a public venue? Just to take a piss? Somone is gonna wind up getting shot by an ND maybe thats the point. Oh look at how unsafe it is It does not seem to make any other sense to me.. They are just trying to make it difficult and if that results in accidents that can be exploited.... |
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Since the National Park firearms laws now mirror state laws, I was talking about this with a NP Ranger recently.
The visitor centers at National Parks are considered "federal buildings" and firearms are not allowed in the buildings (signs are posted on entrance doors explaining this). I asked the ranger half jokingly if they considered a pit toilet located at a trailhead parking lot a "federal building" and could someone be arrested for carrying into the toilet. She laughed at the idea and said no one is too worried about the toilets but that they did take the visitor centers seriously. At the same time, she did not say that the toilets were absolutely fine to carry in, just that they were not worried about enforcing carry into pit toilets. |
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Gun-toting
Typical pejorative expression of the hoplophobes. If I drove a blade into his liver and both kidneys then pissed into his mouth while he bled out and gasped for breath would I be called "knife toting"? Fuck him and the horse he rode in on. |
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What's the penalty for carrying in a .gov building in WI? I can live with a misdemeanor.
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Ohio had the same sort of problem at one time, where a similarly worded law regarding buildings owned by state, inadvertently ended up making it illegal to carry inside at a rest area - one of THE places you'd really like to carry. The law was eventually amended to correct this. We're still working on that here in Georgia. |
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One is reminded of Leonidas' reply to the threat of arrows darkening the sky: "Then we shall fight in the shade".
Perhaps a similar laconic witticism would be warranted? "Then we shall powder our noses in the open?" |
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Quoted: Yay, open carry. As a fellow Virginian who supports OC AND CC, This isn't an issue of OC vs CC, it's about a state that has crappy gun laws. |
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If I'm carrying, who's going to stop me from going to the bathroom?
Public building... I am the public... I own it. My tax dollars paid for it. |
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One is reminded of Leonidas' reply to the threat of arrows darkening the sky: "Then we shall fight in the shade". Perhaps a similar laconic witticism would be warranted? "Then we shall powder our noses in the open?" Touché |
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