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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:09:37 PM EDT
I think this looks pretty sharp, nice heavy barrel and only 6.75 pounds.
I have been wanting a AK 47 this might just due, what say you ?? 
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:11:10 PM EDT
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If you want an AK, get an AK.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:12:04 PM EDT
[#2]
Dad has one of the older Mini 30s, he paid $275 for his for that price its a great gun.
I'm sure they want $600+ for that one and for that price its not that great of a gun IMO. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:12:32 PM EDT
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For $900+ Rugar can keep that shit.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:12:51 PM EDT
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No thanks.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:13:22 PM EDT
[#5]
1. Are Ruger 20-round mags available at a sane price?
2. Will these have a .308 bore that won't work well with cheap Russian ammo? |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:15:13 PM EDT
[#6]
Will this version be able to hit anything?
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:18:35 PM EDT
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Sorry I forgot about all the Ruger hate.
It says 7.62x39 And have you seen the price of a good AK lately. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:20:09 PM EDT
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Will this version be able to hit anything? It's got a HEAVY BARREL. I'm sure you can swing it like a bat pretty well. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:22:11 PM EDT
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THey had a great concept of a all around decent gun at the right price. They have since smoked crack at the dump and lost their mind.
The mini rifles were average to decent but at the right price. They were to be the truck gun for the masses. Then they went and tripled the price  So now they sell and over priced middle of the road rifle at a premium price. I got an Arsenal inc SLR105 with 5000 rounds , pile of mags and a sling for the price of that rifle Not to mention the SKS-M I got with a dozen of mags and several hundred rounds for a quarter that price!
Bolth were off the EE and bolth will definatly serve me better than that rugar they want just short of a grand for! Shop around and get something decent at a good price! Members here dont seem to sell at a premium. They seem to sell at a "somone buy this so I can hurry up and go get my new toy I want!" The EE is your friend! |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:22:50 PM EDT
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They also have a "tactical" 10/22. The mini-thirty actually looks pretty good and they will probably go for around $650 (the mini-14 tactical has a similar inflated msrp but they sell for much less). However, I would get an Arsenal SGL-21 since the AK is a much more proven
system (especially one from a Russian factory and modified by a respected US firm). Magazines are also a shit load cheaper and better than the Ruger designs. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:23:10 PM EDT
[#11]
why?
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:23:15 PM EDT
[#12]
Looks nice.
Who compared it to a shitty AK? |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:24:25 PM EDT
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I think the mini 30's are cool enough carbines but not at the price in todays market.. I'd say if you originally wanted an AK I would follow through on that.. you have a lot of options in the same price point that mini would set you back...
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:25:53 PM EDT
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I'll pass.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:26:58 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted: yeah about $700. quality mags run oh about $9 a piece.Sorry I forgot about all the Ruger hate. It says 7.62x39 And have you seen the price of a good AK lately. i guess if i was stuck in some shithole like California i might buy a mini. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:27:21 PM EDT
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AK>Mini 30
when did it become ok for Mini's to cost as much as they do? I had a buddy buy one for $450 and he got a shitty deal... that was 3 years ago. Lack of magazine that are decent capacity plus the price of the 30 rounders that work are ridiculous. Just get an AK and never look back. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:27:41 PM EDT
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Fuck for that kind of dough you can buy a REALLLY nice AK which actually feeds properly out of almost any com-bloc mag and would actually be more accurate than the Ruger.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:28:13 PM EDT
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And have you seen the price of a good AK lately. I can buy Arsenal 107Fs all day long for approximately the same price as that Ruger abomination. An AK that is reliable. An AK that takes AK magazines. An AK that isn't made by a company with a track record of selling out the 2nd Amendment in an attempt to turn an extra buck. Etc. Etc. Etc. If you can't find a quality AK in the same price point as the "Mini 30 Tactical" then you're not looking hard enough. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:31:34 PM EDT
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Bear in mind that a Mini-30 will NOT chew thru mil-surp ammo like a regular AK. I had one, and after
about 2 thirty-round mags, the devil was fouled-up good and would no longer cycle. As I recall, the owner's manual recommended using only factory fresh commercial loads. Have fun otherwise! |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:31:55 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted: If you want an AK, get an AK. You won't look back. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:34:16 PM EDT
[#21]
Why doesn't Ruger sell one that uses AK magazines? That'd probably do a lot to broaden it's appeal.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:34:43 PM EDT
[#22]
Is the checkered dear rifle stock what makes it tactical?
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:37:45 PM EDT
[#23]
The Ruger hate is strong in this thread.
Yes the MSRP is high I'm sure you can get it for less. And people are paying 600-700 for 50 year old AK's Is it accurate I don't know but I'm sure it will out shoot any AK on it's worse day. SKS's are cheap for a reason. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:41:14 PM EDT
[#24]
go ahead and buy it and then let us know how it works out for you
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:44:40 PM EDT
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Quoted: The Ruger hate is strong in this thread. Yes the MSRP is high I'm sure you can get it for less. And people are paying 600-700 for 50 year old AK's Is it accurate I don't know but I'm sure it will out shoot any AK on it's worse day. SKS's are cheap for a reason. i paid $560 otd for my arsenal SGL21-61. 10 30 round mags set me back, after shipping about $100 from AIM. oh and here is a 5 shot group i fired while zeroing at 25 yards with irons:  a good AK is a much better product for less money. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:46:29 PM EDT
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The Ruger hate is strong in this thread. Yes the MSRP is high I'm sure you can get it for less. And people are paying 600-700 for 50 year old AK's Is it accurate I don't know but I'm sure it will out shoot any AK on it's worse day. SKS's are cheap for a reason. it's the equivalent of Sarah Brady marketing a rifle.... I don't know about the outshooting an AK, the the ruger will probably lose. and SKS's were cheap because Supply > Demand. But now there up to $250 - 300 or so and that's where the ruger's should be. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:48:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: The Ruger hate is strong in this thread. Yes the MSRP is high I'm sure you can get it for less. And people are paying 600-700 for 50 year old AK's Is it accurate I don't know but I'm sure it will out shoot any AK on it's worse day. SKS's are cheap for a reason. I doubt this will out shoot any AKs if you're running .311 Wolf or surplus ammo through a .308 bore. I have a feeling that the only accurate ammo choices for this will be American brass-cased offerings, and that combo probably won't be that much more accurate than an SKS loaded with Yugo surplus. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:49:59 PM EDT
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Will this version be able to hit anything? Who cares - it's the choice of movie stars. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:51:47 PM EDT
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Will this version be able to hit anything? Who cares - it's the choice of movie stars. And if you can't hit anything, you can read the manual off the side of the receiver and find out why. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:53:03 PM EDT
[#30]
Nope |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:54:54 PM EDT
[#31]
For the price of the Ruger you can almost buy 2 of these
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:58:11 PM EDT
[#32]
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The Ruger hate is strong in this thread. Yes the MSRP is high I'm sure you can get it for less. And people are paying 600-700 for 50 year old AK's Is it accurate I don't know but I'm sure it will out shoot any AK on it's worse day. SKS's are cheap for a reason. You are sadly mistaken |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 7:00:06 PM EDT
[#33]
There was no mention of barrel lining. That would be a big deal breaker for many people looking to shoot 7.62x39 in the budget category.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 7:07:16 PM EDT
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Quoted: For the price of the Ruger you can almost buy 2 of these http://www.raacfirearms.com/images/p_saiga.jpg can that accept regular AK mags? |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 7:09:04 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
I think this looks pretty sharp, nice heavy barrel and only 6.75 pounds. I have been wanting a AK 47 this might just due, what say you ?? http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5YeA3ys09sE/TImRrp7wD_I/AAAAAAAAApA/pnozWkGviJM/s400/Mini%2030.jpg I would purchase an AK series rifle before ever considering that rifle. Mags and ammo are cheaper and more plentiful. Edit: If that rifle is truly chambered for 7.62 X 39 than Ruger is fucking stupid to even compete with an AK. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 7:22:04 PM EDT
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Why doesn't Ruger sell one that uses AK magazines? That'd probably do a lot to broaden it's appeal. That, combined with sale-ability in occupied areas (since it's not an AK or AW) would be a great idea. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 7:26:34 PM EDT
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For the price of the Ruger you can almost buy 2 of these http://www.raacfirearms.com/images/p_saiga.jpg can that accept regular AK mags? Not out of the box, but with the aid of a small piece of pipe for the feed ramp and a little dremel work they can. Or you can modify the mags, but most people prefer to modify the receiver. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 7:27:09 PM EDT
[#38]
Not out of the box, but add a bullet guide, file the latch a bit, and you're good to go.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 7:28:17 PM EDT
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For the price of the Ruger you can almost buy 2 of these http://www.raacfirearms.com/images/p_saiga.jpg That's sad. I remember when those were $150 |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 7:36:04 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
I think this looks pretty sharp, nice heavy barrel and only 6.75 pounds. I have been wanting a AK 47 this might just due, what say you ?? http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5YeA3ys09sE/TImRrp7wD_I/AAAAAAAAApA/pnozWkGviJM/s400/Mini%2030.jpg Buy a VZ-58 or an AK, both better, both cheaper if you look around online for more than 3 minutes. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 7:42:53 PM EDT
[#41]
Don't forget the light primer strikes on the milsurp ammo on the 30.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 7:47:11 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted: I think this looks pretty sharp, nice heavy barrel and only 6.75 pounds. I have been wanting a AK 47 this might just due, what say you ?? http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5YeA3ys09sE/TImRrp7wD_I/AAAAAAAAApA/pnozWkGviJM/s400/Mini%2030.jpg This is a joke, right? A new Ruger Mini is waaay overpriced, despite its tacticool appearance; a decent used Mini for about $300-400 is what you want. Look, if you want a Mini, then get a Mini: It's your money, and as long as you don't expect it to be a tack-driver at 100 yards it will be a good rifle that will serve you well. But compared to the AK you don't get very much for the money. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 7:49:05 PM EDT
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I have nothing against Ruger. I love their bolt actions and the LCR. However, what does this gun to that an SKS doesn't, besides costing twice as much?
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Posted: 9/9/2010 7:55:14 PM EDT
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The Ruger hate is strong in this thread. Yes the MSRP is high I'm sure you can get it for less. And people are paying 600-700 for 50 year old AK's Is it accurate I don't know but I'm sure it will out shoot any AK on it's worse day. SKS's are cheap for a reason. Have you even fired an AK or SKS variant?
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Posted: 9/9/2010 7:56:26 PM EDT
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I've seen like new Russian SKS rifles at recent gun shows for less than any MSRP you will get on that, and I'll bet a case of beer that my Tula SKS is more accurate than the Mini-30.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 7:57:54 PM EDT
[#46]
Costs twice what it is worth.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 7:58:48 PM EDT
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The Ruger hate is strong in this thread. Yes the MSRP is high I'm sure you can get it for less. And people are paying 600-700 for 50 year old AK's Is it accurate I don't know but I'm sure it will out shoot any AK on it's worse day. SKS's are cheap for a reason. Have you even fired an AK or SKS variant? I am sure he pwns at Counter-Strike, yo. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 8:05:56 PM EDT
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Is it accurate I don't know but I'm sure it will out shoot any AK on it's worse day. Based on previous Ruger performance I VERY much doubt that. SKS's are cheap for a reason. SKS /= AK and yes they are cheap. They are a surplus arm. One that uses better quality materials than the Ruger. Tell me if the Ruger Minis are so great why can NONE of them last through a full week at Gunsite while AKs and Colt AR-15s do so regularly? |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 8:07:20 PM EDT
[#49]
Not worth the money
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Posted: 9/9/2010 8:23:37 PM EDT
[#50]
the A Team approves
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