Bean content in chili question answered once and for all

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Posted: 9/9/2010 10:36:40 AM EDT

NO BEANS!!!

http://www.chili.org/rules.html

2. CHILI MUST:

a. Be cooked on site the day of the cookoff.

b. Be prepared from scratch (no commercial chili mixes).

c. Contain no fillers (beans, macaroni, rice, hominy, etc.)

d. Be prepared in as sanitary a manner as possible.

1) You must be willing to taste your own chili.

2) Cooking conditions are subject to inspection.

e. Be prepared in the open (no motorhomes, closed tents, etc.).

Posted: 9/9/2010 10:38:42 AM EDT

[#1]

First?

Lots of ignorant folk will be along to tell us how CASI means nothing, and how beans MUST be in chili.

Posted: 9/9/2010 10:49:10 AM EDT

[#2]

I could have told you that a long time ago.

Posted: 9/9/2010 10:54:48 AM EDT

[#3]

No one has ever posted that before.

I'm glad the matter is finally settled.

Posted: 9/9/2010 11:03:39 AM EDT

[#4]

Your "chili" is substandard because it lacks beans.
The matter SHOULD be settled: Make what you like and let others make what THEY like. If you don't like someone else's recipe,

don't make it or eat it.

CJ

Posted: 9/9/2010 11:05:11 AM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
No one has ever posted that before.

I'm glad the matter is finally settled.

+1

Thanks for clearing that up for us.

Posted: 9/9/2010 11:08:40 AM EDT

[#6]

this is a new and enlightening angle to the argument

Posted: 9/9/2010 11:08:46 AM EDT

[#7]

Sounds like a good rule to me.

Posted: 9/9/2010 11:30:28 AM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
No one has ever posted that before.

I'm glad the matter is finally settled.

+1

Thanks for clearing that up for us.

Oh yeah I'm posative ! 100% of Arfcom will now agree about something.

NOT

Posted: 9/9/2010 11:34:39 AM EDT

[#9]

CASI is from Texas, home of the finest meat sauce in the world.

Posted: 9/9/2010 11:36:59 AM EDT

[#10]

Enjoy your spicy meat sauce, then.

Posted: 9/9/2010 2:58:04 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
CASI is from Texas, home of the finest meat sauce in the world.

I know of at least one Californian that knows how to make proper (beanless) chili.

Posted: 9/9/2010 2:59:44 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:

CASI is from Texas, home of the finest meat sauce in the world.

I know of at least one Californian that knows how to make proper (beanless) chili.

Posted: 9/9/2010 3:02:04 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
1) You must be willing to taste your own chili.

Posted: 9/9/2010 3:02:42 PM EDT

[#14]

The real question now, 'are potatoes allowed?'.

Posted: 9/9/2010 3:07:07 PM EDT

[#15]

This matter will never be settled, some members will take it to the grave.

Posted: 9/9/2010 3:07:37 PM EDT

[#16]

So fucking petty.

Posted: 9/9/2010 3:08:32 PM EDT

[#17]

But what about 9mm vs 45ACP?

Posted: 9/9/2010 3:11:38 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:

But what about 9mm vs 45ACP?

Can't you read?

http://www.chili.org/rules.html

2. CHILI MUST:

a. Be cooked on site the day of the cookoff.

b. Be prepared from scratch (no commercial chili mixes).

c. Contain no fillers (beans, macaroni, rice, hominy, etc.)

d. Be prepared in as sanitary a manner as possible.

1) You must be willing to taste your own chili.

2) Cooking conditions are subject to inspection.

e. Be prepared in the open (no motorhomes, closed tents, etc.).

3) If you carry a 9mm pistol, you will be disqualified.

Posted: 9/9/2010 3:16:58 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:

CASI is from Texas, home of the finest meat sauce in the world.

Fixed that for you by highlighting the important part in the color of a kidney bean.

Posted: 9/9/2010 3:19:44 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
The real question now, 'are potatoes allowed?'.

wtf?

Posted: 9/9/2010 3:19:46 PM EDT

[#21]

Meh, I like chili either way, with or without beans.

Posted: 9/9/2010 3:21:14 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The real question now, 'are potatoes allowed?'.

wtf?

Do it , then get back to me. I think you'll be rather pleased with the results.

Posted: 9/9/2010 3:27:27 PM EDT

[#23]

Mayans made chili millenia ago WITH beans in it.

Just because Texans decided to call it "chili" and wrote some rule book doesn't mean they can change the definition of what goes into chili.

Posted: 9/9/2010 3:33:41 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:
The real question now, 'are potatoes allowed?'.

I'm pretty sure both the "beans" and the "no beans" factions would both agree on beating you up. (regardless of how well they worked out).

Posted: 9/9/2010 3:34:35 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:

NO BEANS!!!
http://www.chili.org/rules.html
2. CHILI MUST:
a. Be cooked on site the day of the cookoff.
b. Be prepared from scratch (no commercial chili mixes).
c. Contain no fillers (beans, macaroni, rice, hominy, etc.)
d. Be prepared in as sanitary a manner as possible.
1) You must be willing to taste your own chili.
2) Cooking conditions are subject to inspection.
e. Be prepared in the open (no motorhomes, closed tents, etc.).

Apparently, if it's made under a roof, it's not chili. I'm sure that's how most people have their chili since shelters ruin the flavor.

Rather ironic when you consider point 2d.

Posted: 9/9/2010 3:53:18 PM EDT

[#26]

This does not really "settle" anything...

What should have settled it from the start, and why anyone cannot grasp this eternally simple concept I will never figure out, is the actual name of "chili"...

It is called: Chili con carne (Chili with meat for those who do not speak spanish)

It is NOT called: Chili con carne y frijoles (chili with meat and beans)

Therefore, by the name alone, we know that beans have been systematically and purposefully excluded from true chili since the very beginning.

That being said... I like beans in my chili personally so I tend to sway that direction even though I am a native Texan, but even I understand that what I prefer to eat is no longer considered "true chili".

Posted: 9/9/2010 4:24:42 PM EDT

[#27]

That makes as much sense as citing the rules of Scrabble to critique somebody's vocabulary.

Posted: 9/9/2010 4:26:00 PM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:
NO BEANS!!!

http://www.chili.org/rules.html

2. CHILI MUST:

a. Be cooked on site the day of the cookoff.

b. Be prepared from scratch (no commercial chili mixes).

c. Contain no fillers (beans, macaroni, rice, hominy, etc.)

d. Be prepared in as sanitary a manner as possible.

1) You must be willing to taste your own chili.

2) Cooking conditions are subject to inspection.

e. Be prepared in the open (no motorhomes, closed tents, etc.).

Beans are NOT filler... Beans are so you can share with your friends...

Posted: 9/9/2010 4:32:52 PM EDT

[#29]

Oh, you're wasting your breath; people will have beans in their chili and no damn book or set of rules will change that...

"Scuse me, i have a bowl of chili with beans waiting for me in the kitchen.

Posted: 9/9/2010 9:45:44 PM EDT

[#30]

Bump for night crew.....as I enjoy a bowl of beanless chili

Posted: 9/9/2010 9:50:05 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:

This does not really "settle" anything...

What should have settled it from the start, and why anyone cannot grasp this eternally simple concept I will never figure out, is the actual name of "chili"...

It is called: Chili con carne (Chili with meat for those who do not speak spanish)

It is NOT called: Chili con carne y frijoles (chili with meat and beans)

Therefore, by the name alone, we know that beans have been systematically and purposefully excluded from true chili since the very beginning.

That being said... I like beans in my chili personally so I tend to sway that direction even though I am a native Texan, but even I understand that what I prefer to eat is no longer considered "true chili".

So then what is Chili without carne? Bean soup right? So really, its a matter of do you like your bean soup with, or without meat.

Arfcom has the question backwards.

Posted: 9/10/2010 12:14:36 AM EDT

[#32]

No beans have been settled long ago.

Chili w/beans is just that, nothing wrong w/it, just not chili.

WTF was the pic posted above supposed to be anyway???

Posted: 9/10/2010 2:27:32 AM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:
This does not really "settle" anything...

What should have settled it from the start, and why anyone cannot grasp this eternally simple concept I will never figure out, is the actual name of "chili"...

It is called: Chili con carne (Chili with meat for those who do not speak spanish)

It is NOT called: Chili con carne y frijoles (chili with meat and beans)

Therefore, by the name alone, we know that beans have been systematically and purposefully excluded from true chili since the very beginning.

That being said... I like beans in my chili personally so I tend to sway that direction even though I am a native Texan, but even I understand that what I prefer to eat is no longer considered "true chili".

Most people put onions in chili and it is not called chili con carne y onions so what is your point?

Posted: 9/10/2010 2:43:16 AM EDT

[#34]

So, these experts in what chili is and is not, chose this recipe as the winner in 2009, according to the rules above.

Step 1
2 lbs. course ground beef (chili grind)
1 TBS Cooking Oil
1 TBS Granulated Onion

Add ingredients together and lightly brown meat

Step 2
Add:
1 Can (8 oz) Tomato Sauce
1 Can Beef Broth

Cook for 30 minutes

Step 3
Add:
1 TBS Light Chili Powder
2 TBS Dark Chili Powder
1 tsp Garlic Powder
½ tsp Salt
½ TBS Ground Cumin
½ tsp Cayenne Pepper
½ tsp Black Pepper
1 tsp Chicken Granules (or 1 cube)

Cook for 1 hour

Step 4:
Add:
1 TBS Light Chili Powder
1 TBS Dark Chili Powder
1 tsp Paprika
½ TBS Ground Cumin

Add water if needed

Leave covered and simmer for 30 minute

So yeah, at this point, I dispute Chili.org's right to decide what is and is not chili, because they obviously don't have a clue. Among thousands of things that would make this spice catastrophe an actual edible substance, beans would be in the top 5.

Posted: 9/10/2010 2:51:04 AM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:
Mayans made chili millenia ago WITH beans in it.

Just because Texans decided to call it "chili" and wrote some rule book doesn't mean they can change the definition of what goes into chili.

http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp18/Fearlessleader01/ChiliMotivator.jpg

Sure they put beans in their chili.

Then they went extinct....

Posted: 9/10/2010 3:00:35 AM EDT

[#36]

The way I see it, chili itself does not have beans. However you shouldn't be eating just chili. Either put it on or in another food. Or add beans to it and make, "Chili With Beans".

Posted: 9/10/2010 5:15:45 AM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:
The way I see it, chili itself does not have beans. However you shouldn't be eating just chili. Either put it on or in another food. Or add beans to it and make, "Chili With Beans".

Pour some over a hot dog or cheese-filled bratwurst! YUM!

Posted: 9/10/2010 6:00:26 AM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:
Mayans made chili millenia ago WITH beans in it.

Link.

Posted: 9/10/2010 6:19:50 AM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:
Your "chili" is substandard because it lacks beans.

The matter SHOULD be settled: Make what you like and let others make what THEY like. If you don't like someone else's recipe,
don't make it or eat it.

CJ

I agree, beans are an ingredient, so is meat. Don't like it, don't put it in, 'nuff said.