I think it happened in OK.

LE was shooting at a snake stuck in a bird feader and missed. Round went thru woods and struck a boy on a dock, killing him.

Anyone got an update?

Two pages. Five locks. Three time-outs. Two permabans. One blue line.

Officer went home safely.

News to me...

Suspect until link provided.

_MaH

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,292168,00.html

I believe the father of that boy is on here as well. Created an account to tell his side of the story. After that, I don't know.

You mean the stupid bitch that shot up in the air, bullets skipped on the water and murdered a kid fishing with grampa? I'll bet not a damned thing. Also I'd like to know the outcome of the old dude in Florida that shot the off duty cop who had a road rage issue.

you are correct. the father created an account to tell the families side.

a quick google brings up this blog post from 2008



I cannot vouch for the veracity of the info.

Manslaughter.

May the officer be sentenced no differently than any civilian would be.

_MaH

ETA:  That is a "I hope this happens" prediction –– not a "This is what happened" statement.

The person who owned the land told the officers to shoot the snake. The officer I'm sure did not want to kill that boy. Money says that Officers going to be haunted for life, no sane man or woman would

want to murder an innocent human being. I think firing him is a bad idea, even though this is a tragedy. I know if it was me in those officers shoes it would be hard to live with myself if something like that

happened.

in before the shit storm.

That warmed my fucking heart.

i will play this game of  " what ever happened to  _____ "  "or where are they now..   ? "

the cop that was caught on tape being a Dick.. by a kid with a camera on the headrest i think it was  ?

video is of the kid in a parking lot at night ..  cop blocks his car and starts the show..

i forget the place but some cop here was comparing it to warzone.  

ive wondered what Dept he is working for now.

Here's a big F'ing surprise. No jail time for cops. I guess if you're going to do something stupid and kill a kid, it helps to be a cop.

FAIL

NORMAN –– The family of a 5-year-old boy who was killed when a bullet from a Noble police officer's gun struck him is angry that a plea agreement between the officer and the state requires no jail time.

Cleveland County prosecutors have offered deferred sentences to two former Noble police officers charged with second-degree manslaughter in the Aug. 3 death of Austin Haley.

"It's nothing more than a slap on the wrist, if you ask me," Jack Haley, the boy's father, said Tuesday.

Haley said sentencing for Paul Bradley Rogers, 34, and Robert Shawn Richardson, 29, would be deferred for two years in exchange for them entering guilty pleas. The men also would be fined $1,000 each and ordered to forfeit their state law enforcement certifications, he said.

Assistant District Attorney David Brockman declined to confirm that an offer has been made in the cases.

"We know the family is unhappy, but we can't comment on cases that are pending," Brockman said.

Haley said Brockman and District Attorney Greg Mashburn told the family on Monday about the offer.

The family most objects to the provision that doesn't require the men to serve any jail time, Haley
said.

"This sweetheart deal doesn't serve us; it doesn't serve justice, and it doesn't serve the public," he said.

The family still is grieving the loss of a child, Haley said, "and now this. This just makes it worse. We're the victims here, and we don't feel like we have an advocate."

Austin Haley died when a bullet from one of the officers' guns ricocheted and hit him while he was outside fishing with his grandfather. The officers were in a neighbor's yard, firing at a snake in a birdhouse.

Jack Haley said the family wanted the men to serve "maybe 30 to 90 days."

"They killed somebody because of their negligence. They shouldn't get deferred sentences that can be expunged from their record after two years are up," he told The Oklahoman.

Brockman said prosecutors have kept the Haley family informed of the case's progress.

But Haley said until Monday he thought prosecutors were talking about some jail time, "like, maybe 30 days."

On Monday, he said, the family learned that the two men had waived their rights to a preliminary hearing and that a disposition date for the cases had been set.


http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article. ... NORMA88676

Is that the one that said paraphrasing  



you fuck with me and Ill make up so much shit you'll never get out of prison?

none will believe a 16 year old punk but everyone will believe a police officer

or better yet Ill say ya grabbed for my gun



 

I remember that. The kid was transmitting the video offsite so the cop couldn't confiscate it. Smart move.

Every encounter between officers and citizens should be on video. It'll help protect the innocent party, whichever party that happens to be.

Was the kid driving a Maxima?  I remember something like that back in the day when I was on maxima.org  

Eclipse I think





sure it was a set up but the cop fell right into it



found it






 

$1,000 fine



I'm kind of torn on this.
I know they didn't mean to do it, but you can't just shoot guns willy nilly and whenever something happens say "oops. That was an accident".

The fine is an insult.

Why can't they sentence them to 2 years in jail? They wouldn't do all of it, and they could get an expungement.

....$1,000 fine

He didn't fall into anything. He charged headfirst.

That officer represents some of the worst corruption out there. Not only did he threaten to destroy somebody with made-up bullshit, he was incompetent, too (claimed the kid didn't use his directional when in fact the kid did).

yup.


what ever happened to him ?

im curious.

can anyone find out..    we really do need a "where are they now " on this guy..  

ill bet one team membership he is employed somewhere else as a cop now..

< ill donate the membership friday and staff can give it to who ever they want to >

offical thread hijack..


talking about the cop in the OP: will make me so damn mad.. so lets talk about this asswipe..

and STILL leo's here on this site stepped up the plate and went to bat for him.,

wasnt there an afterparty ?  with cops parking at the end of his house just "wacthing" him?



edit  

dont mean the kid had an actuall "afterparty" im refering to the cops keeping up thier shananagens for few days afterwards....  

not REALLY doing anything "wrong" just meking thier presense known to him  ..  

My guess is that he is somewhere drinking himself to oblivion.

Thats where I would go.

Just to be clear the cop was on the property next door when he fired....bullet left the property and hit the boy next door while he was fishing with Grandad at the family pond

Probably awarded a medal. Thats seems to be how this shit works.

I like how he went from  yelling dropping F bombs to saying he was P'd off in a warm and supportive voice



dude was a indefensible ass which must be his habit for this guy to go through all the trouble of camera and off site transmitting





 

you would think....but that thread actually ran for over a year and 1000 posts from the shooting to the day the cops went to court...most everybody held it together until the cops got off light and the Dad showed up on Arfcom

If this is true, then why plea bargain?

I actually bought the Maxima dude his membership.   He didn't post much after his epic thread.

bingo.



Pure tragedy any way you turn it, but I still feel that incidents like this just create a wider riff between leo's and the populous. I assure you that if the role was reversed, or actually if the shooter wasn't leo that the outcome would have been vastly different.

They would if they followed the judge's jury instructions.



That was a textbook case of manslaughter.



 

What would be the outcome if a 'civilian' shot at the bird, missed, bullet hit water, ricotched and killed a 5 yr old boy, let's say a police officer's boy.




so why is this different from that outcome?

People kill one another in hunting accidents and range accidents on a regular basis.  Should they all be charged with murder?  Most are not charged at all...  

Not to start something, but there are charges that should have been filed.  Unlawful/unsafe discharge of a firearm, and other things like that.  The last I checked shooting a snake "stuck" in a bird house wasnt an approved scenario for discharging a firearm.  If the officers were not PD, they would have been charged with misdemeanors just like this, and probably a felony for not following the 4 firearms safety rules.  The shooter's negligence resulted in a death, that sounds like a text book manslaughter case.  



I do not see any reason why I would not convict the shooter on any of those charges.



 

Under the circumstances, I think the punishment is too much for the crime.
There was no thuggery involved.  
Just a freak accident.
And a lot of tragedy.

I was in the original thread - one of them, anyway.



Juries don't sentence people - judges do.



Their actions fit the legal standard for manslaughter.



Could someone on the jury choose to nullify?  Of course.



 

Looks like he was fired after all...



ETA:



ETA:



I think it's safe to say he will not be a cop anymore.

Just showing how many cops do their job.

My only contribution to this thread:

http://www.nrahq.org/education/guide.asp


1. ALWAYS keep the gun pointed in a safe direction.
This is the primary rule of gun safety. A safe direction means that the gun is pointed so that even if it were to go off it would not cause injury or damage. The key to this rule is to control where the muzzle or front end of the barrel is pointed at all times. Common sense dictates the safest direction, depending on different circumstances.

2. ALWAYS keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.
When holding a gun, rest your finger on the trigger guard or along the side of the gun. Until you are actually ready to fire, do not touch the trigger.


3. ALWAYS keep the gun unloaded until ready to use.
Whenever you pick up a gun, immediately engage the safety device if possible, and, if the gun has a magazine, remove it before opening the action and looking into the chamber(s) which should be clear of ammunition. If you do not know how to open the action or inspect the chamber(s), leave the gun alone and get help from someone who does.

When using or storing a gun, always follow these NRA rules:

   * Know your target and what is beyond.
     Be absolutely sure you have identified your target beyond any doubt. Equally important, be aware of the area beyond your target. This means observing your prospective area of fire before you shoot. Never fire in a direction in which there are people or any other potential for mishap. Think first. Shoot second.

   * Know how to use the gun safely.
     Before handling a gun, learn how it operates. Know its basic parts, how to safely open and close the action and remove any ammunition from the gun or magazine. Remember, a gun's mechanical safety device is never foolproof. Nothing can ever replace safe gun handling.

   * Be sure the gun is safe to operate.
     Just like other tools, guns need regular maintenance to remain operable. Regular cleaning and proper storage are a part of the gun's general upkeep. If there is any question concerning a gun's ability to function, a knowledgeable gunsmith should look at it.

   * Use only the correct ammunition for your gun.
     Only BBs, pellets, cartridges or shells designed for a particular gun can be fired safely in that gun. Most guns have the ammunition type stamped on the barrel. Ammunition can be identified by information printed on the box and sometimes stamped on the cartridge. Do not shoot the gun unless you know you have the proper ammunition.

   * Wear eye and ear protection as appropriate.
     Guns are loud and the noise can cause hearing damage. They can also emit debris and hot gas that could cause eye injury. For these reasons, shooting glasses and hearing protectors should be worn by shooters and spectators.

   * Never use alcohol or over-the-counter, prescription or other drugs before or while shooting.
     Alcohol, as well as any other substance likely to impair normal mental or physical bodily functions, must not be used before or while handling or shooting guns.

   * Store guns so they are not accessible to unauthorized persons.
     Many factors must be considered when deciding where and how to store guns. A person's particular situation will be a major part of the consideration. Dozens of gun storage devices, as well as locking devices that attach directly to the gun, are available. However, mechanical locking devices, like the mechanical safeties built into guns, can fail and should not be used as a substitute for safe gun handling and the observance of all gun safety rules.

   * Be aware that certain types of guns and many shooting activities require additional safety precautions.

   * Cleaning
     Regular cleaning is important in order for your gun to operate correctly and safely. Taking proper care of it will also maintain its value and extend its life. Your gun should be cleaned every time that it is used.

     A gun brought out of prolonged storage should also be cleaned before shooting. Accumulated moisture and dirt, or solidified grease and oil, can prevent the gun from operating properly.

     Before cleaning your gun, make absolutely sure that it is unloaded. The gun's action should be open during the cleaning process. Also, be sure that no ammunition is present in the cleaning area.

How pathetic is that?....... ^^^^

A young child was killed by an idiot with a pistol ,who had little or no regards to firearm safety, and your sympathy falls to the officer .

Just when I thought that I had seen it all.

Once again, gotta know your backstop.

If I was in your position I'd have the exact same opinion.