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Posted: 4/11/2002 7:59:54 PM EDT
[#1]
Uh...Jojo, uh... go see a doctor.....
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Posted: 4/11/2002 8:03:05 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted: Worried about infection? So am I, ROTFLMAO Hang in there little buddy. |
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Posted: 4/11/2002 8:03:52 PM EDT
[#3]
Next week, Episode II:
[red][b][size=4]Revenge of the One-Armed Ninja[/b][/red][/size=4] [BD] |
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Posted: 4/11/2002 8:04:07 PM EDT
[#4]
Hay, ah, jojo...go see a doctor.
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Posted: 4/11/2002 8:11:11 PM EDT
[#5]
Another gun related injury.
What sort of chemicals were in the tank? |
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Posted: 4/11/2002 8:14:28 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted: Early this morning, about 12:30pm, Although I find the story disturbing and a cause for concern. This quote gets me laughing [:D] Early huh?!?! 12:30 PM Huh ?!?!? I get up at 05:30 to get to work. |
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Posted: 4/11/2002 8:27:34 PM EDT
[#7]
Dude get to a doctor - what kind of nasty chemicals are there in park liquid anyway?
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Posted: 4/11/2002 8:35:44 PM EDT
[#8]
see, we need to regulate and register parkerizing tanks, this is an outrage.
it was obviously an assault tank. we need to ban these dangerous devices, for the children, you see. |
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Posted: 4/11/2002 9:46:36 PM EDT
[#9]
OUCH!
... JoJo, I'll glady drive you down to Desert Samaritan tomorrow if it gets any worse. Seriously dude |
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Posted: 4/11/2002 11:01:20 PM EDT
[#10]
I'm wasn't gonna tell ya' that you need to see a doctor but, YOU NEED TO SEE A DOCTOR ASAP!!!
Seriously! Burns of the hands are considered very serious. Medical care is required to prevent further damage. Plus they give you REALLY good painkillers for hand burns. Oh yeah, did you find the extractor? |
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Posted: 4/11/2002 11:13:57 PM EDT
[#11]
Dude, how the hell did you write your post? One-handed? Man... If it's the $$$ man, maybe we can set up an "AR15.com Mall Ninja Burn Victim Fund" to heal you - just get to the freaking Dr! The womenz don't like their men disfigured!
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Posted: 4/11/2002 11:26:03 PM EDT
[#12]
When you go to the doctor, be sure to bring the container the park stuff (whatever it is) came in. It's composition could affect the appropriate treatment.
If, for example, there was hydroflouric acid in it, not that I think there would be, they may want to inject your arm with a baking soda solution to neutralize the acid, in a vain attempt to prevent an amputation. |
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Posted: 4/11/2002 11:32:18 PM EDT
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If, for example, there was hydroflouric acid in it, not that I think there would be, they may want to inject your arm with a baking soda solution to neutralize the acid, in a vain attempt to prevent an amputation. WAHHAHAHAHAHAH!!! Ok poison control knows what is in park solution. They know ALL. not to mention that by the time he gets to a doctor the damage from the acid is done. JoJo why didnt you have Derek call on his 2 EMT ninjas for such an emergency? We dont charge..... much. |
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Posted: 4/11/2002 11:35:20 PM EDT
[#14]
Well not being a human doctor and *note* I am not giving out medical advice. I would probably go see your physician. I don't know just what chemicals are in the tank or the extent of your wounds, but if it is a serious burn, that should be reason enough for at least a look.
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Posted: 4/11/2002 11:49:59 PM EDT
[#15]
Dude, where's the pics!? [:D]
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Posted: 4/11/2002 11:51:49 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted: They know ALL. not to mention that by the time he gets to a doctor the damage from the acid is done. No one knows all, but they may be able to look it up if they have enough info or are able contact the company. Depending on the particular acid or chemical, the damage may or may not be done. With hydrofluoric acid (in my extreme and probably unrealistic example) there may not even be any symptoms for a long time after exposure. |
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Posted: 4/11/2002 11:58:10 PM EDT
[#17]
Go see a doctor.
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Posted: 4/12/2002 12:03:47 AM EDT
[#18]
Since no one else here has shown appreciation, I thank you for the service and sacrifice you have made to the firearms community.
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Posted: 4/12/2002 12:11:17 AM EDT
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[img]http://home.earthlink.net/~thegardenweasel/jojobooboo.jpg[/img]
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Posted: 4/12/2002 12:20:04 AM EDT
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WAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA Good job on the photo. Ya didn't screw up the damn part on the guys gun did ya? You know those parts are getin scarce! [stick]
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Posted: 4/12/2002 12:29:05 AM EDT
[#21]
LMAO! Is that steam I see still rising from the stump that was his hand?
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Posted: 4/12/2002 12:40:58 AM EDT
[#22]
GardenWeasel, that was classic. I laughed myself to tears. Especially when I read the photo name... Jojobooboo.jpg
You are still my hero. |
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Posted: 4/12/2002 1:23:56 AM EDT
[#23]
GO SEE A DOCTOR!
Burns are very serious and can get infected VERY easy! I have no idea what is in the solution but you may have a mixture of chemical and heat burns. medcop |
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Posted: 4/12/2002 1:36:42 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted: GO SEE A DOCTOR! Burns are very serious and can get infected VERY easy! I have no idea what is in the solution but you may have a mixture of chemical and heat burns. medcop Ditto (Again) |
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Posted: 4/12/2002 1:42:27 AM EDT
[#25]
Parkerizing solution is essentially a hot acid bath with either zinc phosphate or manganese phosphate added. Zinc gives a light gray color, manganese a dark gray to black color. Of course, that's on steel. On human flesh the colors tend to run to a "withered red". [;)]
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Posted: 4/12/2002 3:15:27 AM EDT
[#26]
DUDE!... I hope you can jerk off with your other hand!
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Posted: 4/12/2002 3:37:08 AM EDT
[#27]
Parkerizing solution contains phosphoric acid.
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Posted: 4/12/2002 4:41:12 AM EDT
[#28]
OMG...JOJO I hope you are kidding. If it is as bad as you make it sound then you need to get your ass to a doctor now.
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Posted: 4/12/2002 5:44:11 AM EDT
[#29]
just be sure to properly oil your new finish and it should serve you well. From what i hear parkerizing is much more durable than blueing.
Plus it will give you that Terminator grey look that drives the girls wild. mike [beer] |
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Posted: 4/12/2002 5:54:25 AM EDT
[#30]
hehehe,, why does noone suspect jojo is jerking your chains?
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Posted: 4/12/2002 6:10:31 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted: DO NOT STICK YOUR HANDS IN THE TANK FOR ANY REASON WHILE IT IS HOT. On a similar note, do not try to grab that m&m that fell into the garbage disposal while the latter is running either. I know it was one of the rare turqoise ones, but still :P |
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Posted: 4/12/2002 6:16:45 AM EDT
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[url]http://www.kfccinema.com/reviews/swordplay/onearmedsword/onearmedsword.html[/url] There you go Jojo, there is still hope.
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Posted: 4/12/2002 7:12:38 AM EDT
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Get to a doctor immediately! I had a similar thing happen in BCT while I was on KP. The mess hall was staffed by civies, one of them decided to pour a huge pot of boiling water in the sink next to me. I had the big gauntlet gloves on and the stream from the pot widened, filling my left glove with boiling water.
I immediately reacted with a blood-curdling scream and shook the glove off. When I did that, most of my skin came off in the glove. I went into shock and don't remember much except my drill offering me a smoke. That was when smoking in BCT was first banned. Of course I declined so he continued to try and lift my spirits until the meat wagon got there. I was out the rest of the day as it was confidence course training. For the next three weeks, I went to the TMC for debridement and redressing. Every day I soaked my burned hand in water and scrubbed it with Betadine and a brush. The medic would then cover it in Silvadene cream and apply a sterile dressing, wrapping it with an Ace bandage for compression. It was my non-shooting hand and as such, offered considerable wrist support and pulse isolation :). Yes, I qualified expert. |
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Posted: 4/12/2002 10:54:59 AM EDT
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Quoted: With hydrofluoric acid (in my extreme and probably unrealistic example) there may not even be any symptoms for a long time after exposure. This would be true only with extremely miniscule exposures over long periods of time. I work with HF every day. It's some nasty stuff lemme tell you. If he was working with a vat of HF and it poured over his glove (this would constitute several obvious safety violations) he would most likely be dead. Hydroflouric acid interfears with the calcium-potassium ion pump mechanism in your neurons. Even an extremely small topical exposure will often cause a severe heart attack. When I work with HF (in high molar solutions) I am required to wear an acid resistant smock which covers down to the knee, elbow high acid resistant gloves, a complete face mask, and a respirator. I work in a cleanroom where the air is completely exchanged 500 times per hour and I still may only open and use HF under a fume hood. Everyone else in the room must also wear respirators and eye protection. And we cannot use it while alone in the room. If anyone would ever spill any on themself they might not be able to function long enough to apply the neutralizing cream (which is in it's own emergency box on the wall) before they die. Even extremely minor exposures, such as a tiny spray on your arm that didn't even burn the skin, require immediate medical attention. But this is really a mute point. I don't think parkerizing solution has any HF in it. [:)] |
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Posted: 4/12/2002 11:00:42 AM EDT
[#35]
What doesn't kill you only serves to make you stronger, or some crap like that.
[img]http://members.verizon.net/~vze2ncbk/newhand.jpg[/img] |
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Posted: 4/12/2002 11:09:46 AM EDT
[#36]
If I were you, I would go the hospital and get looked at by a burn surgeon. You are right about the risk of infection. Burns on the extremities can also result in contractures which can render your hand/arm useless if it heals this way. Your burn may need to be debrided to help prevent both of these less than desireable outcomes.
Drop whatever you are doing and go get looked at. |
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Posted: 4/12/2002 1:55:44 PM EDT
[#37]
Well, first of all, let me say that joj is not jerking your chain on this one. I was working at cav arms when it happen and he walked down to grab our first aid kit. We did make him wash it under cold water for a few minutes.
The total area covered is about the area of a dollar bill...or so, it has 1st, second and 3 rd degree burn area. It did not get his fingers, if it had, we would not have given him a choice on going to a doctor, finger burns are real serious. It is on the back (closer to the thumb) of his hand and wraps around the top side (thumb side) to the inside of the wrist area. Yes there is some oozing. We told/offered to take him to the doctor. |
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Posted: 4/12/2002 2:01:50 PM EDT
[#38]
[size=4][b]GO GET HIM AND GET HIM TO THE EFFING DOC!!!! [/size=4][size=6][red]NOW!!!![/red][/size=6][/b]
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Posted: 4/12/2002 2:22:35 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted: When you go to the doctor, be sure to bring the container the park stuff (whatever it is) came in. It's composition could affect the appropriate treatment. If, for example, there was hydroflouric acid in it, not that I think there would be, they may want to inject your arm with a baking soda solution to neutralize the acid, in a vain attempt to prevent an amputation. A hydroflouric acid burn the size of a half dollar untreated can kill you in days if not hours. |
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Posted: 4/12/2002 2:46:47 PM EDT
[#40]
Go see a doctor, Jojo.
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Posted: 4/12/2002 4:32:37 PM EDT
[#41]
]While fishing for the tiny little piece in the 200 Degree solution, water overflows the top of the glove turning my arm into a nice piece of Pork Rind, Mmmm, crunchy. You expect us to believe you had your hand in 200 degree liquid(water boils at 212 at sea level)for three minutes??? LOL I don't think so, but if you really did then what will be calling you from no on, lefty or ole' one arm? |
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Posted: 4/12/2002 4:53:45 PM EDT
[#42]
Hey, JoJo, it's your arm and your call about seeing a doctor. But, don't you think that after maybe 50 members have said "Go see a doctor", you might consider it?
I mean, if the point of your post was to warn people of making a dumb mistake, aren't you being a little hypocritical when 50 other people warn you about making another dumb mistake? Go see a doctor man, do it and good luck! |
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Posted: 4/12/2002 5:01:52 PM EDT
[#43]
I'll join the fray, go see the doctor.
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Posted: 4/12/2002 5:11:29 PM EDT
[#44]
hey green,
He was wearing an insulated glove, not a thin dish cleaning glove. So basicly you are saying that Jojo and I...and the other people that saw the wound and know the tank and at what temp the tank operates at are lying? I don't remember seeing you there? or where that invisible man standing in the corner watching everything, that must be it. Jojo pulled a very dumb stunt with this one, that one is obvious. I wont have the chance to see jojo till tuesday, but I will bring my camera with me. I will take pics of jojo and the mysterious GLOVE. |
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Posted: 4/12/2002 6:05:58 PM EDT
[#45]
That's it I am going to slackware.com downloading the latest distribution of slackware linux and downloading the latest edition of GIMP (Gnu Image Manipulation Program) that is as powerful as photoshop and is open source, there for free :P if you want it goto [url]http://www.gimp.org[/url] but you gotto have linux
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Posted: 4/12/2002 6:34:25 PM EDT
[#46]
Quoted: That's it I am going to slackware.com downloading the latest distribution of slackware linux and downloading the latest edition of GIMP (Gnu Image Manipulation Program) that is as powerful as photoshop and is open source, there for free :P if you want it goto [url]http://www.gimp.org[/url] but you gotto have linux Actually, there is a Windows version the the Gimp. You can get it [url=http://www.gimp.org/win32/]here.[/url] |
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Posted: 4/13/2002 12:24:05 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted: hehehe,, why does noone suspect jojo is jerking your chains? ... Because he is above that. |
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Posted: 4/13/2002 12:44:05 AM EDT
[#48]
[size=6][red]GO TO A FRICKING DOCTOR DUDE!!!!![/red][/size=6]
Scott (EMT-B) |
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Posted: 4/13/2002 2:00:30 AM EDT
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Parkerizing solution is phosphoric acid with either zinc phosphate or manganese phosphate added to it. Phosphoric acid is not particularly dangerous, but the 200 degree temperature of the solution makes it a little nasty.
When I was in college I worked summers as a lab technician in a fertilizer plant. Their main product was ammonium phosphate, and one of the items found at the plant were huge vats of hot phosphoric acid. There was an old timer there who had slipped and fell into one of these up to his chest and survived. Pretty ugly scarring, though. |
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