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Posted: 8/14/2010 4:34:29 AM EDT
Any news from folks up there?
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5igLvmLIYhe5ZTAtAcCkfnQZT8_HwD9HJ8BI80 |
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I opened this thread expecting Sharps 45-90 porn. I prefer the Sharps "box-lock" Model 1851. |
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My old dealer in NH still has a NIB Winchester High Wall / Pedersoli replica in 45-90 for $800.........tempted , I am
Back on topic...........any mob ties to that group in Buffalo ? |
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Back on topic...........any mob ties to that group in Buffalo ? Wouldn't surprise me. I haven't been to City Grill in a while, but last time I was there it was a nice place....not your typical hangout where this shit happens. I was about a block away from there 4 hours before the shooting. |
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FOX News Radio just mentioned it ......with pretty much no new info.
With it being a 'Wedding Party' , My ' SWAG ' prognossisisis is a pissed-off ex' . |
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so far it was a gathering of folks who would be attending a wedding today. one guy from Texas [future groom?] was shot a i believe killed.
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More info released....
http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article101509.ece Might be pulling the trigger early....but its looking to be gang/drug related more than a pissed off ex. |
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Quoted: I opened this thread expecting Sharps 45-90 porn. Yep....Buffalo shooting has a different meaning in Wyoming even considering recent events. |
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More info released.... http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article101509.ece Might be pulling the trigger early....but its looking to be gang/drug related more than a pissed off ex. I'm totally surprised. Here's my surprised face |
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More info released.... http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article101509.ece Might be pulling the trigger early....but its looking to be gang/drug related more than a pissed off ex. I'm totally surprised. Here's my surprised face Agreed. Unfortunately there is an element of crime and drugs that is washing over the area where this shooting happened. A block or two away is the Chippewa district. 30 years ago it was hookers and drugs. It was cleaned up and turned into a thriving bar and restaurant district very close to the HSBC Arena, our theater district, and many professional offices. Our new mayor has let this undesirable element slip back into this bar/restaurant district and now its fairly common for there to be assaults/murders on weekends. I wonder if this will finally push the owners to take the area back on their own and force the crimals back to the east side of Buffalo (urban jungle). |
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urkle will have another gun buy back and say the problem is resolved
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I opened this thread expecting Sharps 45-90 porn. me too. always wanted a shiloh sharps after seeing quigley |
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Buffalo is only a step behind Detroit of being a fucking war zone. Typical behavior from the hoodlums.....they can't kill each other fast enough.
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This must be a misprint; we have "gun control" in NY state. You will now. That sucks that this happened. |
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This blog should raise your BP. Leave link cold.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/mackbolan/buffalo-restaurant-shooti_n_682158_57170801.html |
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Quoted: I opened this thread expecting Sharps 45-90 porn. First tops nails it again. This thread truly disappoints. |
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I opened this thread expecting Sharps 45-90 porn. First tops nails it again. This thread truly disappoints. Sorry to disappoint you.Now move on.Like maybe to the hunting forum where I would have put it if it was about buffalo hunting. |
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Buffalo is only a step behind Detroit of being a fucking war zone. Typical behavior from the hoodlums.....they can't kill each other fast enough. Where they picked up the only suspect is near the east side, which basically is just like Detroit. |
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This blog should raise your BP. Leave link cold. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/mackbolan/buffalo-restaurant-shooti_n_682158_57170801.html I tried to log in with my google account I use for blogging and it said I was banned. I was going to reply to that first asshat telling him the NRA had nothing to do with it considering NY has very strict gun control edit: I closed and reopened it and I think it let me post, but I think I'm one of the 3 pending comments edit 2: damn the layout of that site sucks. but my post made it http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Buffalo_Shark/buffalo-restaurant-shooti_n_682158_57180419.html |
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this, because this thread is lacking Sharps porn ! http://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/94/71/06/sharps10.jpg Nice blade! |
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Quoted: Quoted: Buffalo is only a step behind Detroit of being a fucking war zone. Typical behavior from the hoodlums.....they can't kill each other fast enough. Where they picked up the only suspect is near the east side, which basically is just like Detroit. I used to live on that street. |
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Quoted: Buffalo is only a step behind Detroit of being a fucking war zone. Typical behavior from the hoodlums.....they can't kill each other fast enough. I figured out what the deal was when police spokesmen said they couldn't figure out what happened despite having 100 witnesses right fucking there. |
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http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article101509.ece
Officials say they may have charged the wrong man
A parolee released from prison just 2 1/2 weeks ago was arrested Saturday in connection with the worst carnage the City of Buffalo has experienced in at least three decades. But before the day ended, law enforcement officials said they think they got the wrong man. "We are having serious second thoughts," said Erie County District Attorney Frank A. Sedita III. "I have serious reservations about whether we have the right guy here." |
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A 45-70 Govt is always an appropriate choice for a Buffalo Wedding Shooting.
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In case anyone is curious as to why no pictures of the victims or perp's have been published in this case I present a partial list of the folks involved. I'm sure it's a just cultural thing or better yet racism and oppression was somehow responsible for this outrage or maybe just keeping it real yo.
Tanisha Stephens Tamika Wiggins. Latisha Rogers Danyell Jr Destinee Wilhite Shawnita McNeil Shaneen Wilhite Danyell Mackin http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/shot_outside_buffalo_restaurant_bTxBf8jfnNM8stVyPZuAMN |
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In case anyone is curious as to why no pictures of the victims or perp's have been published in this case I present a partial list of the folks involved. I'm sure it's a just cultural thing or better yet racism and oppression was somehow responsible for this outrage or maybe just keeping it real yo. Tanisha Stephens Tamika Wiggins. Latisha Rogers Danyell Jr Destinee Wilhite Shawnita McNeil Shaneen Wilhite Danyell Mackin http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/shot_outside_buffalo_restaurant_bTxBf8jfnNM8stVyPZuAMN http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/08/15/news/photos_stories/cropped/danyell_mackin3––300x300.jpg DAMNED AMISH! WHEN we will look past their quaint ways?? |
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Amish, I thought they where Irish names. You never heard about the Black Irish? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish |
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The mayors own son was just sentenced foe shoplifting. Byron Brown is grade A shit and really fits the stereotype foe " inner city" mayors.
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In case anyone is curious as to why no pictures of the victims or perp's have been published in this case I present a partial list of the folks involved. I'm sure it's a just cultural thing or better yet racism and oppression was somehow responsible for this outrage or maybe just keeping it real yo. Tanisha Stephens Tamika Wiggins. Latisha Rogers Danyell Jr Destinee Wilhite Shawnita McNeil Shaneen Wilhite Danyell Mackin http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/shot_outside_buffalo_restaurant_bTxBf8jfnNM8stVyPZuAMN the suspect they arrested had his picture published in the buffalonews website and now the DA thinks they have the wrong man |
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http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article102839.ece
A dispute between members of two city street gangs may have led to the shootings that killed four people at a downtown restaurant over the weekend, reliable sources told The Buffalo News today.
Although Buffalo Police Department spokesman Michael J. DeGeorge declined to comment on the gang issue, a law enforcement official and a community leader –– both with close ties to the City Grill murder probe –– told The News the shootings occurred after a dispute between members of two gangs arose in the restaurant. full article at the link I'm not surprised. I figured this wasn't just some random nut job deciding to shoot a place up. I didn't necessarily think gang but I figured at least one victim had some kind of criminal ties and police are investigating 3 other weekend shootings http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article102766.ece |
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BPD closed off a neighborhood or two today and did door to door searches
http://www.buffalonews.com/city/communities/buffalo/article103772.ece one thing is for sure, this is getting way more attention than other murders in Buffalo |
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7 of 8 shooting victims had criminal pastSome suggest lifestyle, associations may have put them in harm's wayUpdated: August 22, 2010, 8:48 AM Eight young people who grew up on Buffalo's streets were gunned down in a hail of bullets last weekend outside City Grill downtown, four of them fatally. They left grieving families. Mournful friends. And arrest and conviction records. Their records indicating past or present associations with crime begets a certain lifestyle risk, law enforcement and criminology experts say. "A felony prosecution or conviction increases your statistical likelihood of becoming a victim of a crime, and it's particularly true for men and particularly true for African-Americans," said Yvonne Downes, a criminal justice professor at Hilbert College. "It doesn't mean that the people deserved it or in any way had it coming." Added a local law enforcement official who asked not to be named: "There were some very dangerous people there. There were numerous gang bangers and other unscrupulous people. But there were a lot of good people." Family members, friends and community leaders say the victims were working to be better people and certainly didn't deserve the fate that befell them Aug. 14. Records from the Buffalo Police Department and Erie County Court show that seven of the eight people had brushes with the law at some point in their lives, including two arrested just last month on charges involving firearms. Records also showed: È One of the dead victims was on probation and forbidden from being inside any establishment serving alcohol. È Two of the eight who were shot served state prison time on weapons or assault charges. È Five are convicted felons. È Six have been arrested by Buffalo police since 2008. In addition, three individuals who attended the party and are now under investigation or wanted for questioning in the slayings also have extensive criminal records, reports show, as does Keith D. Johnson, the parolee who was partying at City Grill and initially picked up by police in the murder. "These people may have had connections to some bad people, and some of them may have had [criminal] problems themselves," another law enforcement source said of the victims. "But, they certainly didn't deserve to be gunned down in cold blood like that." Questions raised While no one suggests that any of the victims deserved to be shot, the records do call into question what kind of party was going on at the City Grill and what kind of crowd the owners were catering to at their establishment. They also call into question Mayor Byron W. Brown's statement after the City Grill shootings that "these kinds of activities could happen any place at any time." Others question examining the police and court records. "Because they had one, two arrests, it caused them to be slaughtered? That's just really ridiculous," said Arlee Daniels Jr., chairman of the Stop the Violence Coalition. "You show me a man on the face of the earth who never sinned." Those close to the victims bristle at suggestions there's a connection between past criminal transgressions and what happened outside City Grill. "Which one of us growing up was Mother Teresa, other than Mother Teresa?" asked the Rev. Kinzer Pointer, who knew several of the victims and their families. "To paint everyone with a brush that their lifestyle led to this? Give me a break." A more detailed review of law enforcement records, however, shows of the eight victims, many had violent felony arrests and/or convictions: È James Robbs Jr., 27, who served more than a year in prison for felony attempted assault, has a felony case pending after he was arrested July 2 with his father, James Sr., 49, for weapons and drug possession. Buffalo narcotics detectives raided a Schuele Street address and allegedly uncovered a loaded .38-caliber revolver, a rifle, marijuana, and crack cocaine residue, as well as scales and packaging material. Robbs was sentenced to prison in 2001 after he shot at another man but missed and shot an innocent bystander, a 51-year-old woman, in the ankle. Shortly after the shooting, an eyewitness led police to where Robbs was playing basketball. È Tillman Ward, 27, also has a felony case pending against him for weapons possession after authorities apprehended him at a July 6 traffic stop and discovered an indictment warrant accusing him of possessing a loaded firearm. È Tiffany Wilhite, 31, who was killed in the massacre outside City Grill, was serving a five-year sentence of probation for felony reckless endangerment in connection with a January 2009 fight outside a Broadway-Fillmore neighborhood bar where she used her Jeep Cherokee to run down four women, breaking one of the victim's pelvis in four places. È Willie R. McCaa III, 26, who was also killed, had survived a March 2008 shooting outside an East Side store. He was scheduled for trial last week in State Supreme Court on charges he and another man robbed a man at gunpoint in May 2008 at Kensington Avenue and Godfrey Street. Prosecutors moved to dismiss the charges against McCaa last week, citing his death, and a judge granted the motion. "The law requires us to do so when the defendant dies," Erie County District Attorney Frank A. Sedita III said. Prosecutors were ready to press their case against him before he died. McCaa also served more than two years in state prison for felony weapons possession in 2004. Officers investigating a call of shots fired spotted a bullet hole in the driver's side door of his car, pulled him over near Erie County Medical Center and found a loaded pistol. È Demario L. Vass, 30, remains in critical condition in Erie County Medical Center with a gunshot wound to his head. Vass served five years' probation for a felony drug conviction in August 2001. He was also arrested on misdemeanor drug charges in January 2008 for allegedly having marijuana as well as packaging and scales. The disposition of that case was unknown. È Shamar Davis, 30, served eight months in jail in 2004 after being convicted of felony attempted criminal possession of a weapon. Davis was caught with a 9mm gun during a New Year's Day 2003 traffic stop shortly after police responded to the former Sensationz nightclub for a 4 a.m. shooting. Records show Davis has steered clear of trouble since then, however, except for a minor brush with the law in April 2006. È Shawn-Tia McNeil, who would be 28 today had she survived the attack, was sentenced to a conditional discharge for a 2002 misdemeanor assault. But, according to police records, she was arrested in November 2004 for an alleged felony assault with a baseball bat. The disposition of that case was not known. Court records showed Danyell Mackin, who was laid to rest Thursday, was without a criminal conviction. Mackin, who'd be 31 on Monday, was the Buffalo native who moved to Austin, Texas, in 2006, and returned home as the guest of honor at one of the apparent parties being hosted at City Grill on Aug. 14. He was in town with his wife, Tanisha, to celebrate their first wedding anniversary and the subsequent baptism of their 7-month-old daughter, Destinee. Association hikes risk Downes of Hilbert College says her assessment, based on what she's read of the massacre, seems to indicate the victims were not specifically targeted but likely shot in a random spate of violence. Still, she points out "simply associating with those who are individuals in criminal activity increases your risk for any type of victimization." But, Daniels, Pointer and victims' family members say making such a suggestion is neither fair nor in good taste, days after loved ones were laid to rest. "That's a huge leap," says Pointer, the pastor of Agape Fellowship Baptist Church on Sycamore Street and coordinator of parent and community services at Enterprise Charter School, where he came to know Vass and his 6-year-old son, Demario, now a first-grader. "I saw (Vass) being involved as any parent is with his kindergartner," said Pointer, who visited with Vass at the school's family nights and parent conferences and witnessed the love he had for his son. "When he would walk up to you, he would size you up and flash this big smile and ask how you were doing. I didn't see someone in a criminal lifestyle." Likewise was the sentiment of Rondelle Stone, a friend of Wilhite's, who attended Friday's funeral and said her friend grew a lot spiritually over the last year. "I'm grieving, of course, but I'm glad Tiffany was able to get her life together with God," Stone said. "For the last year, that's what she was doing ... trying to get right with God. She didn't deserve this." Daniels went on to call the mention of the victims' prior criminal records "a low blow" and "a disrespect to the families." "It has no place in what we're talking about now –– which is catching this killer," he said. Police have, to this point, found that elusive. In a prepared public statement Friday by Dennis J. Richards, chief of detectives, authorities continued to plead with the public –– specifically the more than 100 people at or around City Grill who may have witnessed the carnage –– to "come forward" and make statements to "identify the perpetrators." Anyone with information is encouraged to contact Buffalo Police on the department's confidential tip line at 847-2255. News Staff Reporters Dan Herbeck and Deidre Williams contributed to this report. My shocked face. http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article168979.ece |
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Well, that explains why the Media and the gun grabbers allowed this story to die: No innocent upper-class white suburbanites were harmed, hence the incident has no propaganda value.
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Quoted: Well, that explains why the Media and the gun grabbers allowed this story to die: No innocent upper-class white suburbanites were harmed, hence the incident has no propaganda value. Or the shooter wasn't white. |
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there have been reports that in addition to the "wedding" party (why they keep calling it that when the couple has been married for over a year I don't know. Yes it was a party to bring the locals together that didn't make it to Texas for the wedding but call it an anniversary party or something) there was a second party that is being called a "private party" Something about some promoter talks an owner into renting them a room and bar and the promoter puts a bouncer on the door charging a high cover charge and the promoter keeps the cover the owner gets the bar money.
Apparently that party was almost all criminal thug types thinking they're high class or something because they're at a "private party" that required a $20 cover. Now there is talk of liquor authority investigations into clubs bars and restaurants downtown to see if they've done these parties because they're illegal (I haven't heard why, bars with bands charge covers all the time in Erie County) and the legislature is talking about cutting the closing time back from 4am to 1 or 2am. So all the bars outside of the city, the ones that have no crime issues, will get punished for the thugs in Buffalo To his credit, Mayor Brown said that would do nothing to cut crime. First smart thing I think he's ever said |
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suspect surrenders and is charged shortly there after
http://www.buffalonews.com/city/police-courts/article171984.ece A man wanted for questioning in the mass shootings at the City Grill earlier this month has turned himself in to authorities at WIVB-TV studios in Buffalo.
Initial reports stated that Riccardo McCray surrendered to authorities at Channel 4 studios after arriving with community activist Darnell Jackson around 2 p.m. Police spokesman Michael J. DeGeorge would not confirm these details, saying only that a "person of interest" turned himself in. McCray, 23, was taken into custody around 2:25 p.m. after arriving at the station's Elmwood Avenue studios along with community activist Darnell Jackson. Station officials said they immediately contacted Erie County District Attorney Frank Sedita and Buffalo Police. McCray has a previous criminal record in Buffalo. In May 2009, he was arrested with a loaded rifle in his car. In that incident, Ferry-Fillmore District police, responding to a call of shots fired at Genesee Street and Koons Avenue, arrested McCray with a loaded Bushmaster rifle in the front seat of his car. When officers arrived at about 11:10 p.m., they noticed McCray changing a flat tire on his car, Police Officer Joseph Walters said. Taking a closer look, officers noticed several bullet holes in the rear and driver's side of the vehicle, prompting Lt. Steve Nichols to check inside the vehicle, where he saw the rifle, which had six rounds in the magazine and one in the chamber. At the time, McCray had a Donovan Drive address. He was charged with two counts of criminal possession of a weapon. In April of this year, McCray was arrested along with five other people and charged with criminal possession of a controlled substance and criminal possession of a weapon. hopefully none of the media outlets pick up on what a Bushmaster is |
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suspect surrenders and is charged shortly there after http://www.buffalonews.com/city/police-courts/article171984.ece A man wanted for questioning in the mass shootings at the City Grill earlier this month has turned himself in to authorities at WIVB-TV studios in Buffalo.
Initial reports stated that Riccardo McCray surrendered to authorities at Channel 4 studios after arriving with community activist Darnell Jackson around 2 p.m. Police spokesman Michael J. DeGeorge would not confirm these details, saying only that a "person of interest" turned himself in. McCray, 23, was taken into custody around 2:25 p.m. after arriving at the station's Elmwood Avenue studios along with community activist Darnell Jackson. Station officials said they immediately contacted Erie County District Attorney Frank Sedita and Buffalo Police. McCray has a previous criminal record in Buffalo. In May 2009, he was arrested with a loaded rifle in his car. In that incident, Ferry-Fillmore District police, responding to a call of shots fired at Genesee Street and Koons Avenue, arrested McCray with a loaded Bushmaster rifle in the front seat of his car. When officers arrived at about 11:10 p.m., they noticed McCray changing a flat tire on his car, Police Officer Joseph Walters said. Taking a closer look, officers noticed several bullet holes in the rear and driver's side of the vehicle, prompting Lt. Steve Nichols to check inside the vehicle, where he saw the rifle, which had six rounds in the magazine and one in the chamber. At the time, McCray had a Donovan Drive address. He was charged with two counts of criminal possession of a weapon. In April of this year, McCray was arrested along with five other people and charged with criminal possession of a controlled substance and criminal possession of a weapon. hopefully none of the media outlets pick up on what a Bushmaster is I had stopped and arrested McCray about 1 week before this incident...........he had made bail. |
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I have to tag this and read it in the morning. My wife and I moved away from WNY last year and have been following this story until it faded away. We used to live in Amherst and hate any time we had to go downtown around Chippawa or Bailey.
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he had been arrested in April on drug and gun charges, including a class A felony, but was out on his own recognizance
http://www.buffalonews.com/city/communities/buffalo/article172387.ece And in April this year, McCray was arrested on felony drug and weapons charges. The drug count, an "A" felony, could put him away for life if he's convicted.
After his April arrest on the weapons and drug charges, though, McCray spent just four days behind bars, before he was released "on his own recognizance" as the case headed to a grand jury, according to Erie County Holding Center records. It is not clear what happened after the first arrest in 2009. |
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We just came back from Buffalo yesterday, stayed at the Adams Mark..... Shithole hotel and a shithole city, I couldn't leave fast enough.
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suspect surrenders and is charged shortly there after http://www.buffalonews.com/city/police-courts/article171984.ece A man wanted for questioning in the mass shootings at the City Grill earlier this month has turned himself in to authorities at WIVB-TV studios in Buffalo.
Initial reports stated that Riccardo McCray surrendered to authorities at Channel 4 studios after arriving with community activist Darnell Jackson around 2 p.m. Police spokesman Michael J. DeGeorge would not confirm these details, saying only that a "person of interest" turned himself in. McCray, 23, was taken into custody around 2:25 p.m. after arriving at the station's Elmwood Avenue studios along with community activist Darnell Jackson. Station officials said they immediately contacted Erie County District Attorney Frank Sedita and Buffalo Police. McCray has a previous criminal record in Buffalo. In May 2009, he was arrested with a loaded rifle in his car. In that incident, Ferry-Fillmore District police, responding to a call of shots fired at Genesee Street and Koons Avenue, arrested McCray with a loaded Bushmaster rifle in the front seat of his car. When officers arrived at about 11:10 p.m., they noticed McCray changing a flat tire on his car, Police Officer Joseph Walters said. Taking a closer look, officers noticed several bullet holes in the rear and driver's side of the vehicle, prompting Lt. Steve Nichols to check inside the vehicle, where he saw the rifle, which had six rounds in the magazine and one in the chamber. At the time, McCray had a Donovan Drive address. He was charged with two counts of criminal possession of a weapon. In April of this year, McCray was arrested along with five other people and charged with criminal possession of a controlled substance and criminal possession of a weapon. hopefully none of the media outlets pick up on what a Bushmaster is I had stopped and arrested McCray about 1 week before this incident...........he had made bail. The revolving door strikes again. |
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We just came back from Buffalo yesterday, stayed at the Adams Mark..... Shithole hotel and a shithole city, I couldn't leave fast enough. Bri I work about 3 mins from the Adams Mark....its a, uh, diverse area. |
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