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Posted: 5/19/2010 4:20:12 AM EDT
http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2007/01/08/01291.html

A recent scientific theory called the "hydrate hypothesis" says that historical global warming cycles have been caused by a feedback loop, where melting permafrost methane clathrates (also known as "hydrates") spur local global warming, leading to further melting of clathrates and bacterial growth.

In other words, like western Siberia, the 400 billion tons of methane in permafrost hydrate will gradually melt, and the released methane will speed the melting. The effect of even a couple of billion tons of methane being emitted into the atmosphere each year would be catastrophic.

To summarize, human activity is causing the Earth to warm. Bacteria converts carbon in the soil into greenhouse gasses, and enormous quantities are trapped in unstable clathrates. As the earth continues to warm, permafrost clathrates will thaw; peat and soil microbial activity will dramatically increase; and, finally, vast oceanic clathrates will melt. This global warming chain reaction has happened in the past.

Over 4.5 billion people could die from Global Warming related causes by 2012, as planet Earth accelarates into a greed-driven horrific catastrophe.[/span]

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Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:21:27 AM EDT
[#1]
mmhmm
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:21:35 AM EDT
[#2]
Well, it's got two years to get 'er done.  I'll try to suspend my skepticism.
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:21:45 AM EDT
[#3]

OH TEH NOES
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:22:07 AM EDT
[#4]
Zomg!  This could be worse that Y2K !!!!!
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:22:11 AM EDT
[#5]
And so it begins...
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:22:47 AM EDT
[#6]
Soooo...... Coffins/Funeral homes to be a growth market I should consider investing in?
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:23:39 AM EDT
[#7]
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:24:20 AM EDT
[#8]
The answer is clear:

Everybody knows that methane pollutes. We must get it out of the ground and burn it up as soon as possible. I suggest converting it to gasoline, diesel fuel, jet fuel, motor oil, and a whole host of other useful compounds.
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:24:57 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
The answer is clear:

Everybody knows that methane pollutes. We must get it out of the ground and burn it up as soon as possible. I suggest converting it to gasoline, diesel fuel, jet fuel, motor oil, and a whole host of other useful compounds.


But that just releases more carbon!
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:25:07 AM EDT
[#10]
Whatever.



I'm 700 ft above sea level.




Global Warming can fuck off, I hate winter anyway.




Of course none of that matters, since it's 100% Grade-A bullshit.







Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:25:15 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:25:24 AM EDT
[#12]

That's nothing. At least 11.2 billion died in the ice age at the end of the 1970's.



Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:25:27 AM EDT
[#13]
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:27:23 AM EDT
[#14]




And they wonder why no one takes them seriously.


Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:35:01 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2007/01/08/01291.html

Over 4.5 Billion people could die from Global Warming-related causes by 2012

Hydrate hypothesis illuminates growing climate change alarm

Compiled by John Stokes

A recent scientific theory called the "hydrate hypothesis" says that historical global warming cycles have been caused by a feedback loop, where melting permafrost methane clathrates (also known as "hydrates") spur local global warming, leading to further melting of clathrates and bacterial growth.

In other words, like western Siberia, the 400 billion tons of methane in permafrost hydrate will gradually melt, and the released methane will speed the melting. The effect of even a couple of billion tons of methane being emitted into the atmosphere each year would be catastrophic.

The "hydrate hypothesis" (if validated) spells the rapid onset of runaway catastrophic global warming. In fact, you should remember this moment when you learned about this feedback loop-it is an existencial turning point in your life.

By the way, the "hydrate hypothesis" is a weeks old scientific theory, and is only now being discussed by global warming scientists. I suggest you Google the term.

Now that most scientists agree human activity is causing the Earth to warm, the central debate has shifted to when we will pass the tipping point and be helpless to stop the runaway Global Warming.

There are enormous quantities of methane trapped in permafrost and under the oceans in ice-like structures called clathrates. The methane in Arctic permafrost clathrates is estimated at 400 billion tons.

Methane is more than 20 times as strong a greenhouse gas as CO2, and the atmosphere currently contains about 3.5 billion tons of the gas.

The highest temperature increase from global warming is occurring in the arctic regions-an area rich in these unstable clathrates. Simulations from the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) show that over half the permafrost will thaw by 2050, and as much as 90 percent by 2100.

Peat deposits may be a comparable methane source to melting permafrost. When peat that has been frozen for thousands of years thaws, it still contains viable populations of bacteria that begin to convert the peat into methane and CO2.

Western Siberia is heating up faster than anywhere else in the world, having experienced a rise of some 3C in the past 40 years. The west Siberian peat bog could hold some 70 billion tonnes of methane. Local atmospheric levels of methane on the Siberian shelf are now 25 times higher than global concentrations.

By the way, warmer temperatures and longer growing seasons have caused microbial activity to increase dramatically in the soil around the world. This, in turn, means that much of the carbon long stored in the soil is now being released into the atmosphere.

Releases of methane from melting oceanic clathrates have caused severe environmental impacts in the past. The methane in oceanic clathrates has been estimated at 10,000 billion tons.

55 million years ago a global warming chain reaction (probably started by volcanic activity) melted oceanic clathrates. It was one of the most rapid and extreme global warming events in geologic history.

Humans appear to be capable of emitting CO2 in quantities comparable to the volcanic activity that started these chain reactions. According to the U.S. Geological Survey, burning fossil fuels releases more than 150 times the amount of CO2 emitted by volcanoes.

Methane in the atmosphere does not remain long, persisting for about 10 years before being oxidized to CO2 (a greenhouse gas that lasts for hundreds of thousands of years). Chronic methane releases oxidizing into CO2 contribute as much to warming as does the transient methane concentrations.

To summarize, human activity is causing the Earth to warm. Bacteria converts carbon in the soil into greenhouse gasses, and enormous quantities are trapped in unstable clathrates. As the earth continues to warm, permafrost clathrates will thaw; peat and soil microbial activity will dramatically increase; and, finally, vast oceanic clathrates will melt. This global warming chain reaction has happened in the past.

Atmospheric concentrations of CO2 rose by a record amount over the past year. It is the third successive year in which they have increased sharply. Scientists are at a loss to explain why the rapid rise has taken place, but fear the trend could be the first sign of runaway global warming.

Runaway Global Warming promises to literally burn-up agricultural areas into dust worldwide by 2012, causing global famine, anarchy, diseases, and war on a global scale as military powers including the U.S., Russia, and China, fight for control of the Earth's remaining resources.

Over 4.5 billion people could die from Global Warming related causes by 2012, as planet Earth accelarates into a greed-driven horrific catastrophe.


Bibliographic reference courtesy of Brad Arnold who has an extensive resrarch background on Global Warming.


This person needs to learn to spell and how to write an organized paper before turning it in for credit.  Oh, and how to think, that'd be good as well.
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:36:26 AM EDT
[#16]
sounds to me like whoever wrote that is too much into science fiction
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:37:42 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
sounds to me like whoever wrote that is too much into science fiction


Shit, I'm into science fiction, this person is into dope.
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:38:40 AM EDT
[#18]
More space for us!
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:41:50 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Well, it's got two years to get 'er done.  I'll try to suspend my skepticism.
especially since a MASSIVE rise to science wouldnt even be noticible to the naked eye

Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:47:20 AM EDT
[#20]
The "Hydrate Hypothesis" by name may be weeks old, but the idea of a runaway cycle caused by a major release of methane from permafrost and other sources is at least a decade old.  Slapping an "official" name on something someone else thought of previously doesn't make it a new idea.

Oh, and this could be worse than Y2K.

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Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:49:56 AM EDT
[#21]
Their claims have gone from being plausible to full retard.

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Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:51:55 AM EDT
[#22]
?light a match?

Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:54:23 AM EDT
[#23]
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:54:42 AM EDT
[#24]
Article is from 2007 guys.....

Hopefully the author will be dead by 2012, so he won't have to explain himself....  Or he will claim dyslexia and he MEANT to put 2102.
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:56:09 AM EDT
[#25]
Wow, just in time for elections 2012!!!!
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:56:52 AM EDT
[#26]
IFKJC

(In for Keith_J's comments.)
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:58:55 AM EDT
[#27]




Quoted:

Zomg! This could be worse that Y2K !!!!!





Link Posted: 5/19/2010 4:59:02 AM EDT
[#28]
I'm not a scientist, or an environmentalist, but the author does have some points. It is true that permafrost holds methane. It is true that the methane is released if the permafrost thaws. As far as the rest of his shit, I doubt it.



I certainly hope there isn't another war. It's hard enough getting 7.62x51 components right now as it is!
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 5:01:27 AM EDT
[#29]
The Goreble Warming crowd just don't give up wid de BS do's they?
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 5:03:06 AM EDT
[#30]
Welcome to the golden era of Junk Science.


Link Posted: 5/19/2010 5:03:30 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:

Over 4.5 Billion people could die  by 2012


It's a start.
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 5:03:32 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/19/2010 5:04:30 AM EDT
[#33]
If I had the means of Al Gore, just for fun, I would start a serious program to convince the world of an impending zombie epidemic.  It would be far more exciting and just as realistic.
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 5:06:43 AM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
More space for us!


I have to agree with this.
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 5:08:48 AM EDT
[#35]
Peak burial plot?
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 5:09:44 AM EDT
[#36]
Sweet!
I mean Oh Noes!
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 5:10:39 AM EDT
[#37]
Just a hypothosis.  Holds no value.
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 5:11:20 AM EDT
[#38]







You're all going to die!!!!!!!!!!

Link Posted: 5/19/2010 5:14:51 AM EDT
[#39]
Four and a half billion I highly doubt
I'd say were looking at four billion four hundred and ninety nine thousand nine hundred and ninety eight to be a bit more realistic.
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 5:18:31 AM EDT
[#40]
w00t!, maybe I can finally buy those 5000 acres I want for cheap.  
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 5:20:02 AM EDT
[#41]
I for one am looking forward to it.  

Imagine, a tropical beach on Lake Ontario, NY!

Hammocks, drinks with umbrellas inserted in them, served in a coconut shell by scantilly clad chicks in hula skirts.

Bilster
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 5:23:35 AM EDT
[#42]

And in the real world............Al (Global Warming) Gore bought a big fuck off house on the beach with eleventy billion bathrooms and air conditioners.






Link Posted: 5/19/2010 5:26:42 AM EDT
[#43]
4.5 billion die, woman and children hit worst.

TXL
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 5:29:48 AM EDT
[#44]
So is the 4.5 billion pending deaths due to the Az. immigration law?
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 5:29:58 AM EDT
[#45]
that is 2/3 rds  of the worlds population.

What a bunch of morons, they needs to stop watching movies.
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 5:32:25 AM EDT
[#46]
this report first came out in 2007.  how many billions have died so far?  they better hurry...we're half way to 2012
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 5:34:50 AM EDT
[#47]
4.5 billion within then next 19 months.



More than 1/2 the worlds population.




Link Posted: 5/19/2010 5:39:48 AM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
Soooo...... Coffins/Funeral homes to be a growth market I should consider investing in?


Catapiller and other earth-moving equipment, lime manufacturers
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 5:40:06 AM EDT
[#49]
On the bright side, 4.5 billion dead is a helluva lot better than 4.5 billion undead.  
Link Posted: 5/19/2010 5:40:11 AM EDT
[#50]
People better hurry the fuck up and start dying off soon or we will never make it to 4.5 billion.  What is the current total?  Oh yeah, current total of 0.
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