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Posted: 3/22/2002 12:51:07 PM EDT
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Quoted: the link worked for me.. [url]http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/politics/2909641.htm[/url] errrrr....maybe not..now that I posted it its not working [whacko] |
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Posted: 3/22/2002 12:54:02 PM EDT
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Hold on. If you buy a gun for somebody else here in Virginia...YOU GOT BIG PROBLEMS!!!
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Posted: 3/22/2002 12:58:40 PM EDT
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C'mon, Sarah. Prove that you have guts and come do it here in Kalif. After all, we got all the guns law here that you ever wanted. I triple monkey dare you, b**ch!
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Posted: 3/22/2002 12:59:51 PM EDT
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F#$KING B#$CH!!!!!!!!!!!!
[pissed][pissed][pissed][pissed][pissed][pissed] [soapbox][soapbox][soapbox][soapbox][soapbox] themao [chainsawkill] |
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Posted: 3/22/2002 1:11:23 PM EDT
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Has anyone notified the BATF about this straw purchase. I mean we'd only be doing our civic duty to keep the streets free of illegally purchased firearms. You know, with the easy availability of firearms and the proliferation of firearms ownership among children it would be the right thing to do according to Sarah.
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Posted: 3/22/2002 1:25:47 PM EDT
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You know, this means she lied on the 4473. It's a straw purchase, plain and simple. But, because she's one of them, she won't even be questioned, much less jailed unless we raise a big howl. Even then, it's going to take a lot.
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Posted: 3/22/2002 1:29:40 PM EDT
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Posted on Thu, Mar. 21, 2002
Gun control advocate may have violated gun laws By TIMOTHY J. BURGER New York Daily News WASHINGTON - Gun-control advocate Sarah Brady bought her son a powerful rifle for Christmas in 2000 - and may have skirted Delaware state background-check requirements, the New York Daily News has learned. Brady reveals in a new memoir that she bought James Brady Jr. a Remington .30-06, complete with scope and safety lock, at a Lewes, Del., gun shop. "I can't describe how I felt when I picked up that rifle, loaded it into my little car and drove home," she writes. "It seemed so incredibly strange: Sarah Brady, of all people, packing heat." Brady became a household name as a crusader for stricter gun-control laws after her husband, James, then the White House press secretary, was seriously wounded in a 1981 assassination attempt on then-President Ronald Reagan. Brady writes in "A Good Fight" that the unnamed gun shop ran federal Brady Law and Delaware state background checks with great fanfare. The book suggests that she did not have her son checked, as required by Delaware state law. "(W)hen the owner called in the checks, it seemed to me he spoke unnecessarily loudly, repeating and spelling my name over and over on the phone," Brady writes. Amy Stillwell, a spokeswoman for The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said the federal Brady Law does not require background checks for intrafamily gun gifts. Stillwell said she did not know whether her son was checked under the state law. The Delaware Department of Justice says the state does not have an exemption for family gifts. "Scott is not a convicted felon, and he is not prohibited from owning a gun," Stillwell said. "Scott Brady could walk into a store and buy a - he is not a prohibited purchaser." Delaware Justice Department spokeswoman Lori Sitler said the purchase could be illegal under state law if Brady did not also say who she was buying the gun for and submit his "name, rank and serial number" for a full check. "You can't purchase a gun for someone else," Sitler said yesterday. "That would be a 'straw purchase.' You've got a problem right there." Anti-gun control advocates were surprised to hear of Brady's foray into their world. "We hope that it's innocuous and there's been no laws violated," said James Jay Baker, chief lobbyist for the National Rifle Association. "It's obviously interesting that Sarah would be purchasing firearms of any kind for anybody, given her championing of restrictive guns laws for everyone." |
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Posted: 3/22/2002 2:16:10 PM EDT
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Correct me if I'm wrong, guys, but what she did was not a straw purchase. Once I buy a firearm, am I not free to give or sell it to another individual so long as I do not suspect him/her to be a felon, etc? She bought a gun for her kid, which many of us have done ourselves.
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Posted: 3/22/2002 2:27:45 PM EDT
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Quoted: Correct me if I'm wrong, guys, but what she did was not a straw purchase. Once I buy a firearm, am I not free to give or sell it to another individual so long as I do not suspect him/her to be a felon, etc? She bought a gun for her kid, which many of us have done ourselves. Well according to what Osprey posted The book suggests that she did not have her son checked, as required by Delaware state law. That is not true in Delaware |
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Posted: 3/22/2002 3:41:08 PM EDT
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It's going to take those with knowledge of Maryland firearms laws to figure out if there has been a crime committed.
What should be the screaming outrage here is that Mrs. "do-it-for-the-children-and-ban-guns" Brady went out and bought her child a .30-06 (with a scope no less). The gun-grabbers use the terms "deer rifle" or "military sniper weapon with cop-killer bullets" to describe the same weapon, depending on what suits them at the time. (Funny it was a "deer rifle) in this case, hmmm? This should be the focus: [b]Sarah Brady bought her son a gun.[/b] You'd have to be deaf, blind and have your head 6 feet up your A$$ not see the steaming pile of hypocrisy surrounding that FACT. This is something that can't be twisted or spun by the media or HCI/Million Morons or whatever they call themseves this week. An the NRA just sealed it's fate with me as well. "Interesting"... "INTERESTING". It's the biggest page 1 headline opportunity to take an OFFENSIVE position with these bastards and the largest representative of gun owners wimps out. Utter and complete bullshit! |
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Posted: 3/22/2002 4:18:16 PM EDT
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I hate to be contrary ( actually I love it), but I'm not sure if I should revile her for hypocracy or Applaud another gun owner.
I'm really not versed in Del. Law. In Ohio what she did would be perfectly legal. The fact is however that Mrs. Brady, while repulsive to some in her radical extremist views, is in fact a victim here. She was caught in the trap of ultra complex and hard to understand State laws that purport to protect the populace but in fact can turn reasonable actions into a criminal act. I would also note that the gun control crowd usually harps on handguns and Sport Utility rifles. She therefore stood within the party line. Not hypocritical at all. She can now say, " See, I have no problem with sporting guns, I even own one". The problem then becomes one of defining a sporting gun, which seems to be revised at whim every new administration. |
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Posted: 3/22/2002 4:53:48 PM EDT
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I don't really think that could be considered a straw purchase since it is a gift for a person that could otherwise legally purchase the firearm for themself.
However, it sounds like there is a good chance that she broke the state law. In order to show that the law is unbiased this should be persued to the fullest extent by the state. Then again, it may be in her best interest to go to prison anyway since many states are no longer allowing smoking in prison. [:)] |
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Posted: 3/22/2002 5:29:39 PM EDT
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shotar: Nice point about the "sporting gun" angle.
Hmmm... I wonder if hunts with it? Could sic PETA on their arse [}:D] After giving it some thought (dangerous, I know) I can see the "sporting vs. deranged killer handgun/SUR" distinction being used as justification/rationalization for the purchase. I'd really like to know how old the son is and to get his views. Is he a "I just want my deer rifle" type or did ownership of his first firearm open the door to more critical thinking on the whole subject? |
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Posted: 3/22/2002 6:15:39 PM EDT
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[url]www.miami.com/mld/miami/news/politics/2909641.htm[/url]
The question that needs to be answered is does her son live with her? If so the purchase is probably legal. If he doesn't live with her its a straw and sarah should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. I have bought my daughter 2 firearms. Both .22's. Only difference is she lives with me. Its her's but it stays locked up in my safe until she's old enough by law to have it. This is gonna be interesting. Rick |
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Posted: 3/22/2002 6:20:46 PM EDT
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My question is why did she buy a gun for her son?
And is a 4473, a public document?, I believe it is. Waterdog |
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Posted: 3/22/2002 6:27:05 PM EDT
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It doesn't matter how old her kid is or if he lives with her.
In Deleware, apparently it's illegal to purchase a gun for somebody in any circumstance. In that Miami article they specificly say that family gifts are illegal too. mmmmm....hypocrisy tastes like chicken. |
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Posted: 3/22/2002 7:44:34 PM EDT
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LET'S TRY TO TAKE SOME ACTION ON THIS GUY/GALS/GUNOWNERS!!!!
Here is the link to the story: [url]http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/politics/2909641.htm[/url] Here is contact information for the Delaware Dept. of Justice Office of Attorney General Get in touch with them and ask them when they plan on prosecuting Sarah Brady for circumventing the Delaware background check law pertaining to gun purchases. She apparently (wrote about it, hasnt denied it) bought the gun for her son without expressing this on the 4473 form!!! This is apparently in direct violation of Deleware state law!! Calling would be preferable, use those unused long distance cell phone minutes!! haha Website: [url]http://www.state.de.us/attgen/index.htm[/url] Delaware State Attorney General: Name: M. Jane Brady Email: [email protected] Cheif Deputy Attorney General: Name:Ferris Wharton (there are many articles on the 'net showing this guy prosecuting state criminal cases, might be a good one to try calling) Wilmington Office: Criminal Division: (302)577-8500 Dover Office Criminal Division: (302)739-4211 Georgetown Office (302)856-5353 The Brady Campaign: Contact Info: (Call them and ask them why Sarah Brady (their leader) is buying a "SNIPER RIFLE" for her son illegally???? [url]http://www.gunlawsuits.org/about/contact/[/url] CHECK OUT THIS LINK!!! This is part of the Brady Campaign action alert, a quote from this page: " Because of a loophole in the law, more than half of all firearm sales in Delaware take place without a background check" OH THE IRONY! Guess that's why she bought the gun in Delaware, huh??? [url]http://www.bradycampaign.org/legislation/state/viewstate.asp?state=de[/url] Call/Email the NRA and tell them to turn the heat up on Sarah Brady in order to show what hypocrites the gun control crowd is!!!! PHONE: (703) 267-1000 Email: [email protected] TRY TO MAKE SOME CALLS/EMAILS ON MONDAY, turn up the heat on Sarah Brady, who thinks guns are only for the elite/powerful and can't even bother with following the laws she intends to put on you, the gunowner!!! |
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