The Problem With Science

General » General Discussion

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - The Problem With Science

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:03:38 PM EDT

Its largely Paid For With Gov.Money! (Our Money)

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:04:47 PM EDT

[#1]

Source?

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:05:46 PM EDT

[#2]

science bad. fire good.

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:06:37 PM EDT

[#3]

Its not only paid for by the government, its given to government run universities where liberal elites perform all of the research. Are you surprised that the only answer they ever have is to tax American industry out of business, for the good of the world. Also if their research finds there is no problem the funding stops, so there is always a crisis around the corner.

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:07:34 PM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
Source?

Do you really think private industry is paying global warming research and the like?

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:07:43 PM EDT

[#5]

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:08:17 PM EDT

[#6]

Lets go ahead an cut all science and funding, and let Russia, China, and the EU continue to fund their research, and in 30 years lets see how we compete...

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:11:23 PM EDT

[#7]

I didn't know this particular corporation, and other like it, was a government entity.

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:11:41 PM EDT

[#8]

Paid by Gov't money yet if you want to read about the results pony up a couple hundred bucks for access to the articles

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:12:32 PM EDT

[#9]

I don't know quite what to say, so I'd best not say anything.

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:12:55 PM EDT

[#10]

Its peanuts compared to the useless shit the federal government spends money on.

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:13:26 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
Its largely Paid For With Gov.Money! (Our Money)

I'm a scientist for a private company. No government money here.

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:17:15 PM EDT

[#12]

Yeah! Fuck science! And research! And universities! And education!

DOWN WITH INTELLIGENCE.

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:19:46 PM EDT

[#13]

I don't know where people come up with this stuff.

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:21:57 PM EDT

[#14]

Almost all groundbreaking science is performed by industry. From computer technology, the Genome Project (DNA mapping), medical technology, etc. all private.

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:23:24 PM EDT

[#15]

Science existed long before our government became the bloated excess it is today.

Science exists in the minds of those seeking truth.

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:26:52 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
Science existed long before our government became the bloated excess it is today.

Science exists in the minds of those seeking truth.

like Al Gore

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:29:59 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Science existed long before our government became the bloated excess it is today.

Science exists in the minds of those seeking truth.

like Al Gore

He has not studied science.

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:30:28 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Science existed long before our government became the bloated excess it is today.

Science exists in the minds of those seeking truth.

like Al Gore

Not a scientist

Just a putz who would preach the danger of Co2 emissions from lepracaun farts if he could make money doing it.

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:30:51 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:

Its largely Paid For With Gov.Money! (Our Money)

Largely? I don't know about that. I always though private investment was much higher.

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:31:02 PM EDT

[#20]

Obviously the .gov isn't spending enough or you would have learned from your science class in school to present evidence when you make a claim.

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:40:34 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
Obviously the .gov isn't spending enough or you would have learned from your science class in school to present evidence when you make a claim.

Yup!

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:45:50 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Its largely Paid For With Gov.Money! (Our Money)

Largely? I don't know about that. I always though private investment was much higher.

Depends on the issue!

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:46:05 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
Almost all groundbreaking science is performed by industry. From computer technology, the Genome Project (DNA mapping), medical technology, etc. all private.

Your mainly right... but just a note. The Humane Genome Project had TONS of public funding.

http://genome.gov/10001772

The .gov can (and should, in my view) fund some basic science that cannot be effectively funded privately. See: NASA.

Basic technology advanacements are a matter of national security (economic and military), in my view.

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:49:12 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Almost all groundbreaking science is performed by industry. From computer technology, the Genome Project (DNA mapping), medical technology, etc. all private.

Your mainly right... but just a note. The Humane Genome Project had TONS of public funding.

http://genome.gov/10001772

The .gov can (and should, in my view) fund some basic science that cannot be effectively funded privately. See: NASA.

Basic technology advanacements are a matter of national security (economic and military), in my view.

I can Agree on That.

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:49:59 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Its largely Paid For With Gov.Money! (Our Money)

Largely? I don't know about that. I always though private investment was much higher.

Depends on the issue!

Science is huge. Were you referring to a specific discipline?

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:55:01 PM EDT

[#26]

Science is a bunch of complicated gobbledygook. I, for one, would prefer to scrape the dirt with my fingers for food, worship the sun, and die of old age at 35.

Posted: 3/8/2010 4:58:19 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
Paid by Gov't money yet if you want to read about the results pony up a couple hundred bucks for access to the articles

???

It doesn't cost anything to go to a public library. And many journals are online with free access (like Journal of Biological Chemistry, for example).

Posted: 3/8/2010 5:00:15 PM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:
Science existed long before our government became the bloated excess it is today.

Science exists in the minds of those seeking truth.

Shut up, shut up! Science is all a liberal conspiracy to advance socialism and the global warming cult! Jesus says to ignore your observations.

Posted: 3/8/2010 5:02:07 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Its largely Paid For With Gov.Money! (Our Money)

I'm a scientist for a private company. No government money here.

SO,........ How old is the earth?

Posted: 3/8/2010 5:03:37 PM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Science existed long before our government became the bloated excess it is today.

Science exists in the minds of those seeking truth.

like Al Gore

He has not studied science.

BUT, he has thousands of scientists agreeing with him.,....SO.....

Posted: 3/8/2010 5:49:59 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Science existed long before our government became the bloated excess it is today.

Science exists in the minds of those seeking truth.

like Al Gore

He has not studied science.

BUT, he has thousands of scientists agreeing with him.,....SO.....

And what has happened? Can they prove anything? All they have is a weak hypothesis.

Posted: 3/8/2010 5:59:19 PM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:

Science is a bunch of complicated gobbledygook. I, for one, would prefer to scrape the dirt with my fingers for food, worship the sun, and die of old age at 35.

As long as there is daily prayer and those uppity women know their place, I'm all for it!

Posted: 3/8/2010 6:03:55 PM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:
Science is a bunch of complicated gobbledygook. I, for one, would prefer to scrape the dirt with my fingers for food, worship the sun, and die of old age at 35.

Dibs on your guns and ammo

Posted: 3/8/2010 6:06:23 PM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:
Yeah! Fuck science! And research! And universities! And education!

DOWN WITH INTELLIGENCE.

op is already working on it.

Posted: 3/8/2010 6:07:03 PM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:
Its peanuts compared to the useless shit the federal government spends money on.

This. By a factor of thousands to one.

Posted: 3/8/2010 6:08:12 PM EDT

[#36]

For those anti-scientists on here, there's a thread going on in the pit.

Posted: 3/8/2010 6:46:54 PM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:
Almost all groundbreaking science is performed by industry. From computer technology, the Genome Project (DNA mapping), medical technology, etc. all private.

Depends on your definition of groundbreaking. If you mean applied research translating discoveries into marketable products, then yes. That's what industry does. If you mean fundamental, basic, how does it work research, then no. How many Nobel and Lasker Prizes have gone to people for work they did in an industrial setting? The groundbreaking work is done in academics. Industry then develops the application.

Recombinant DNA technology? Wasn't discovered in industry.

Cholesterol biosynthesis? Wasn't discovered in industry, but all the big drug companies make a statin.

Invention of the cardiopulmonary bypass machine? Not industry.

Hemodialysis? Not industry.

The basic science that the government is funding now is what will lead to the medical breakthroughs 10-20 years from now. In addition, most of the high powered researchers in big pharma started in academics.

Posted: 3/8/2010 7:53:23 PM EDT

[#38]

sounds like you flunked physics and still hold a grudge

Posted: 3/9/2010 4:28:16 PM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:
Its largely Paid For With Gov.Money! (Our Money)

Science and technology is what makes nations powerful. If the U.S.A. wants to stay the world leader it must stay ahead of every other nation technologically. Just because math is hard and physics doesn't make any sense to you does not mean that it is useless or a waste of money.

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - The Problem With Science

General » General Discussion

Warning

Confirm Action

About AR15.COM

Stay Connected

Newsletter

Contact Us