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Quoted: Sorry to take you from your busy day persecution the Christian majority on this site but recently I saw a post where one of you (and now I can't find it anywhere) mentioned that your religion is more about works than creeds. Mention was made on the many different forms and how many argue that Judaism doesn't have a creed like many religions.
That being the case is it possible to be an atheist and be a religious Jew? Our first commandment is that you recognize that their is a G-d, so no. Though if you are following his laws then surely he would reveal himself to you and clear your head of doubt.
If I don't believe in God, but I attempt to live by God's law, what happens to me when I die? See above.
p.s. post title and first sentence is a joke, this forum needs to lighten up
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Cut it out or we'll make you an offer you can't refuse. Yes, we have a sense of humor.
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I knew yall had a sense of humor, It was directed towards any hyperactive mods :)
I'm contrasting your answer with the one Scuba_Ed gave and am still unclear.
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'sorry Dino---lot's of time-latent messages, I believe we lost our "thread"...what point you mentioned that you have a Jewish question for?
Ed
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Specifically, if, as an atheist, I live an ethical life in all other ways (with allowances for human failing) and attempt to live by the Law that is still viewed as valid, would I have a place in the world to come?
Think of it as Pascal's Wager from a Jewish perspective.
From a Christian perspective, Pascal's wager is foolish as the primary concentration is on belief. If you don't believe, you burn. Your characterization of Judaism as an ethical belief system got me curious.
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Hi Dino--from the Jewish perspective, there's been much written of the "world to come". That said, uhh, no-one (OKAY--This is from a Jewish perspective!) has ever come back to us. Golly, if we knew it would be a great party w/ food and leisure--what Jew wouldn't want that!) :-)
Back to being serious, the honest answer from the preponderance of the Jewish community is based--and I don't mean this as disrespective--upon rationality. Judaism has often been referred to as legalistic.
Quite often, though, the legalism is a form of humanism.
We’re all human, with our foibles, and our noble aspirations. Most often, all of us simply want to arise from bed in the morning, go to work and do our best, then to return home…to love and compassion.
A cycle.
Every day.
Were we to treat our fellows with the same courage and love with which we approach our families and our obligations to both—and then to have said to us that because we didn’t believe in one way or another—that our lives, and those we hold dear, are in peril because of that g-d, or ideology we don’t espouse?
Some texts will espouse that it’s one way or the highway. Were someone to tell me that, based upon what I know what a good life means…I would take the highway.
Several years ago, in Fairfax County, my rabbi attended a conference of religious leaders within the county. The question asked by my rabbi was whose religion would accept me in whatever the “world to come” is—and the only positive response came from a Buddhist leader.
You tell, me, then…where’s the love?
Who's inclusive?
That is often the most telling.
B'Shalom,
Ed