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Posted: 4/9/2009 11:33:14 AM EDT
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Sorry I cannot help you, I have a JK.
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Posted: 4/9/2009 12:34:48 PM EDT
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That temp sounds pretty close to normal , My TJ runs right around 205- 210 all the time .........summer or winter makes no difference.
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Posted: 4/9/2009 1:26:12 PM EDT
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Water temp sounds about right. Do yourself a favor and buy a legitimate Factory Service Manual - not a Haynes or Clymer - but the real deal manual the mechanics at the dealer would use. It will be money well spent.
I think 31's will fit on a YJ w/o any lift but I'm not positive - check one of the Jeep specific websites. Just because the tires will fit doesn't mean the axles/trans are geared properly to run those tires - especially if you have a 4 cyl engine. Brian |
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Posted: 4/9/2009 3:32:53 PM EDT
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Temp sounds fine. My YJ always ran right around 210, and would occasionally creep up a bit during the summer.
You should be able to put 31" on your stock suspension. I had 31x10.5x15 BFG AT's on the stock 7.5" Alloy wheels. It rubbed in tight turns, and would bump the fenders when off roading, but was fine otherwise, just take it easy in those situations. I eventually put a 2.5" lift on from Quadratec. Essentially a BDS setup. I want to say it cost me around 450 or so, but that was several years back, around 2K3, so I honestly don't remember the total cost. Just make sure do to your driveline measuments and shim and angle it all up right. I didn't (took the instructions at their word) and wound up toasting my x-fer case.
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Posted: 4/9/2009 9:19:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/10/2009 3:56:22 AM EDT
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You should be able to put 31" on your stock suspension. I had 31x10.5x15 BFG AT's on the stock 7.5" Alloy wheels. It rubbed in tight turns, and would bump the fenders when off roading, but was fine otherwise, just take it easy in those situations.
It really depends on how worn out the OP's springs are With my seriously de arched springs 31" tires rubbed just going to the mailbox requiring me to use a 2" extended shackle. The pic below shows my YJ halfway lifted with the rear on 2.5" springs and the front still stock on a 1" lift shackle 
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Posted: 4/10/2009 6:44:05 AM EDT
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Oh man I didn't know us losers had a group over there! I am user 'dhubing' 
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Posted: 4/10/2009 7:16:09 AM EDT
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Yeeeup, I'm the only one to have posted on the Jeepforum arfcom group. I'm glock9mm overthere too.
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Posted: 4/10/2009 12:23:43 PM EDT
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I just joined also, I'm N2MWL over there......
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Posted: 4/11/2009 2:01:38 PM EDT
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Dang, what a small world!
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Posted: 4/11/2009 5:03:37 PM EDT
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Oh man I didn't know us losers had a group over there! I am user 'dhubing' I just joined up too, i split my time between here and that site. TJRubicon06 |
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Posted: 4/11/2009 6:37:17 PM EDT
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Yeeeup, I'm the only one to have posted on the Jeepforum arfcom group. I'm glock9mm overthere too. Didn't know there was an ARFCOM group there. I do post there some. |
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Posted: 4/12/2009 9:26:45 AM EDT
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I'm over on JK-forum.com as well with my call sign (N2MWL) as my user ID also...
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Posted: 4/14/2009 7:15:25 AM EDT
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So if I lift it, do I need a longer driveshaft? Man Im confused.
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Posted: 4/14/2009 7:25:09 AM EDT
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So if I lift it, do I need a longer driveshaft? Man Im confused. maybe. You might also need to drop the transfer case. Just depends on how much and what kind of lift you get. |
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Posted: 4/14/2009 10:03:02 AM EDT
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So if I lift it, do I need a longer driveshaft? Man Im confused. Each build is different. I wound up getting a JB Custom HD T-Case with Super Short SYE kit and Tom Woods double CV drive shaft, and had to shim up the axle (I want to say 4 degrees, but can't remember now...) after my original T-Case grenaded itself after about 3 weeks on the new lift. Very slight vibration, I figured the springs would settle in, and everything would be fine. But, apparently not. So, when you do it Measure those angles!!! But, really, if you're going to do it, might as well do it right. Oh, and don't forget extended brake lines and anti-sway bar disconnects and taking out/extending the axle to frame sway bars. (YJ's really don't need them, I took mine out right off the bat.) |
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Posted: 4/14/2009 11:47:49 AM EDT
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So if I lift it, do I need a longer driveshaft? Man Im confused. maybe. You might also need to drop the transfer case. Just depends on how much and what kind of lift you get. If you have a vibe, the easiest fix is to drop the t-case. Just get some washers and longer grade 5 or 8 bolts and shim until the vibes stop. You can also get a transfer case lowering kit, but those are a lot more expensive. It really depends on how much of a lift you are going for. And then there are things like axle shift, sway bar angle, and so on. I am planning on doing a Full Traction 4" short arm with the tri link rear, and that will eliminate the rear trackbar and position the rear axle under the body again. For the front, I will eventually go woth an ORO u-turn steering set up. Right now both of my axles are off center with my 2" spring lift. I could fix that with adjustable track bars, but if Ido the lift, I will get rid of the rear, and an adjustable comes with the kit, along with a dropped pitman arm. Just make sure you use quality parts, and don't do a friggin 3" body lift. |
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Posted: 4/14/2009 11:48:40 AM EDT
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Sorry I cannot help you, I have a JK. The H2's of the Jeep world! |
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Posted: 4/14/2009 12:36:33 PM EDT
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Sorry I cannot help you, I have a JK. The H2's of the Jeep world! 
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Posted: 4/14/2009 1:11:05 PM EDT
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Sorry I cannot help you, I have a JK. The H2's of the Jeep world!
Did you know the the JK was the first series of jeeps to EVER come in 2WD only? |
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Posted: 4/14/2009 1:16:32 PM EDT
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Sorry I cannot help you, I have a JK. The H2's of the Jeep world!
Did you know the the JK was the first series of jeeps to EVER come in 2WD only? yep, the rofl was in agreement of your post. I said much the same and it never fails that someone's feelings get hurt. JK's also field a V6 mini-van engine. |
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Posted: 4/14/2009 2:22:14 PM EDT
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Did you know the the JK was the first series of jeeps to EVER come in 2WD only?
I hate to bust your bubble but you could get a JK in 4x4 from the start |
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Posted: 4/14/2009 2:49:26 PM EDT
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Did you know the the JK was the first series of jeeps to EVER come in 2WD only?
I hate to bust your bubble but you could get a JK in 4x4 from the start yeah, but 2wd was never an option until the JK line was produced. All jeep wranglers from the base model to the Rubicon were only offered in 4wd. |
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Posted: 4/14/2009 6:22:35 PM EDT
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NO you could always get all kinds of Jeep models as a 4x2 I have a 2wd MJ out back right now
Now if you're talking Wrangler and CJ specific For many years, there have been 2wd Wranglers. They are mostly used as fleet and municipal vehicles, They're rare .But there in fact are a few of em out there. Of course the right hand drive mail jeeps were almost all 2wd |
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Posted: 4/14/2009 6:58:24 PM EDT
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NO you could always get all kinds of Jeep models as a 4x2 I have a 2wd MJ out back right now Now if you're talking Wrangler and CJ specific For many years, there have been 2wd Wranglers. They are mostly used as fleet and municipal vehicles, They're rare .But there in fact are a few of em out there. Of course the right hand drive mail jeeps were almost all 2wd Not commercial vehicles. The fleet jeeps were not offered to the public by way of the factory. They were (and still are) available on the used market, but don't sell so well. Especially the funky looking ones Jeep made. I have seen some R/H postal jeeps in the TJ body style. The JK was the first of the 'factory available' 2wd in the classic CJ/Wrangler format. And it's also the first one in a 4 door. But it isn't the first extended bed version available to the public. |
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Posted: 4/17/2009 6:37:02 PM EDT
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Look at the progression:
CJ YJ TJ then the 4x2 JK, its a joke and Jeep admits it in the model code.
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Posted: 4/18/2009 7:23:26 AM EDT
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Look at the progression: CJ YJ TJ then the 4x2 JK, its a joke and Jeep admits it in the model code. I neve picked up on that. Good one! |
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Posted: 4/18/2009 11:53:25 AM EDT
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Look at the progression: CJ YJ TJ then the 4x2 JK, its a joke and Jeep admits it in the model code. get over it already... 
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Posted: 4/18/2009 2:02:11 PM EDT
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Look at the progression: CJ YJ TJ then the 4x2 JK, its a joke and Jeep admits it in the model code. get over it already...
Get over what? The fact that Jeep made a POS 4x2 for the mall crawling soccer mom? |
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Posted: 4/18/2009 5:39:51 PM EDT
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Look at the progression: CJ YJ TJ then the 4x2 JK, its a joke and Jeep admits it in the model code. get over it already...
Get over what? The fact that Jeep made a POS 4x2 for the mall crawling soccer mom? and what other MORE hardcore manufacturer offers SUV's with solid front axles in the US............................ that's what I thought |
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Posted: 4/18/2009 7:33:01 PM EDT
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Look at the progression: CJ YJ TJ then the 4x2 JK, its a joke and Jeep admits it in the model code. get over it already...
Get over what? The fact that Jeep made a POS 4x2 for the mall crawling soccer mom? and what other MORE hardcore manufacturer offers SUV's with solid front axles in the US............................ that's what I thought So? Doesn't change the fact that Jeep did a 4x2. And I own a TJ, so it isn't 'jeep bashing'. Whoever designed the body was smoking crack. A slightly wider wheel base was good, but the '07 and up just look off. Worse than the YJ. At least you could fab up a round headlight grill for the YJ. And the body was pure jeep. Not so with the JK. |
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Posted: 4/18/2009 8:17:37 PM EDT
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Look at the progression: CJ YJ TJ then the 4x2 JK, its a joke and Jeep admits it in the model code. get over it already...
Get over what? The fact that Jeep made a POS 4x2 for the mall crawling soccer mom? and what other MORE hardcore manufacturer offers SUV's with solid front axles in the US............................ that's what I thought So? Doesn't change the fact that Jeep did a 4x2. And I own a TJ, so it isn't 'jeep bashing'. Whoever designed the body was smoking crack. A slightly wider wheel base was good, but the '07 and up just look off. Worse than the YJ. At least you could fab up a round headlight grill for the YJ. And the body was pure jeep. Not so with the JK. HEY them's fighting words But that's OK because coil springs are for pussies anyhow, Just remember the TJ has more in common with the JK than the YJ does. The more I see of 2dr JK's the more I like em. I try to not be some close minded Luddite, I'm sure Jeepers said the exact same things when the TJ came out. Just be happy there is a new wrangler for new jeepers to enjoy that's not a Unibody crossover. If you want to bash a Jeep bash the patriot or compass. |
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Posted: 4/18/2009 8:29:10 PM EDT
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Look at the progression: CJ YJ TJ then the 4x2 JK, its a joke and Jeep admits it in the model code. get over it already...
Get over what? The fact that Jeep made a POS 4x2 for the mall crawling soccer mom? and what other MORE hardcore manufacturer offers SUV's with solid front axles in the US............................ that's what I thought So? Doesn't change the fact that Jeep did a 4x2. And I own a TJ, so it isn't 'jeep bashing'. Whoever designed the body was smoking crack. A slightly wider wheel base was good, but the '07 and up just look off. Worse than the YJ. At least you could fab up a round headlight grill for the YJ. And the body was pure jeep. Not so with the JK. HEY them's fighting words But that's OK because coil springs are for pussies anyhow, Just remember the TJ has more in common with the JK than the YJ does. The more I see of 2dr JK's the more I like em. I try to not be some close minded Luddite, I'm sure Jeepers said the exact same things when the TJ came out. Just be happy there is a new wrangler for new jeepers to enjoy that's not a Unibody crossover. If you want to bash a Jeep bash the patriot or compass. Chrysler fucked up putting square headlights on a jeep. They did strengthen the frame, but other than that, they left it on those crappy leaf springs!!! But I'd love to own a CJ-7 or 8. Maybe even a 5. But not a YJ! Yech, |
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Posted: 4/18/2009 8:37:36 PM EDT
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Chrysler fucked up putting square headlights on a jeep.
LOLOLOLOL Shows what you know Chrysler didn't even own Jeep when the YJ came out. I know you, your the type fellow that no matter what you own by vurtiue of you owning it becomes automatically the best EVER. 
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Posted: 4/18/2009 8:55:02 PM EDT
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Chrysler fucked up putting square headlights on a jeep.
LOLOLOLOL Shows what you know Chrysler didn't even own Jeep when the YJ came out. I know you, your the type fellow that no matter what you own by vurtiue of you owning it becomes automatically the best EVER. http://interloper.org/images/2002/stfu.jpg Nope. I don't have a '69 SS Nova, a '72 Yenko Nova, a '63 Stingray, or a Lambo. Of course, if you have round headlight envy, it's okay. There are support groups for that too!! ETA: I think i found the perfect Jeep for you: 
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Posted: 4/18/2009 9:14:31 PM EDT
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Nope. I don't have a '69 SS Nova, a '72 Yenko Nova, a '63 Stingray, or a Lambo. Would you like a cookie? What's the matter did the pwnage get to much so you had to show off...as if that matters to this thread at all. By the way when was the YJ introduced? and when did Chrysler buy AMC? 
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Posted: 4/18/2009 11:43:26 PM EDT
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Nope. I don't have a '69 SS Nova, a '72 Yenko Nova, a '63 Stingray, or a Lambo. Would you like a cookie? What's the matter did the pwnage get to much so you had to show off...as if that matters to this thread at all. By the way when was the YJ introduced? and when did Chrysler buy AMC? http://pixiestixkidspix.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/cookie-bite-web.jpg '87 on both counts, if you believe everything the wiki says. I was into muscle cars as a 17 y/o kid. I did have a 69 SS Nova at the time: 396, 4 speed Muncie M-21 (unfortunately not the 22, also known as the Rockcrusher!) posi rear. The only problem was the gearing. When my father special ordered in in '68 he went with a higher gear ratio. It was a 3.07:1 IIRC. He also did not opt for the factory gauge console. Stupid me wrecked it twice in HS. 
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Posted: 4/19/2009 12:27:42 AM EDT
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Nope. I don't have a '69 SS Nova, a '72 Yenko Nova, a '63 Stingray, or a Lambo. Would you like a cookie? What's the matter did the pwnage get to much so you had to show off...as if that matters to this thread at all. By the way when was the YJ introduced? and when did Chrysler buy AMC? http://pixiestixkidspix.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/cookie-bite-web.jpg if you believe everything the wiki says. I was into muscle cars as a 17 y/o kid. I did have a 69 SS Nova at the time: 396, 4 speed Muncie M-21 (unfortunately not the 22, also known as the Rockcrusher!) posi rear. The only problem was the gearing. When my father special ordered in in '68 he went with a higher gear ratio. It was a 3.07:1 IIRC. He also did not opt for the factory gauge console. Stupid me wrecked it twice in HS.
Dude you don't have to try to prove your manhood to me, I don't care how small a pecker you're trying to make up for. WTF does this have to do with anything in this thread '87 on both counts,
I don't need no stinkin wiki So if the YJ hit showrooms in late 86 and Chrysler bought AMC in 87 then who designed this model with it's really cool and unique square headlamps? |
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Posted: 4/19/2009 11:19:26 AM EDT
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Why is it that guys like you always think that having a performance car has anything to do with dick size?
Oh.. I remember...... projection. Because you lack the equipment to please your hand, much less a woman, every guy who has had something better in life must have a small pecker too. That's okay 'lil fella..... I'll toss my GF a little harder fuck for ya. kockus to his buddy:
My boyfriend told me to give him 6 inches and make it hurt, so I fucked him 3 times and donkey punched him. |
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Posted: 4/19/2009 2:01:19 PM EDT
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Why is it that guys like you always think that having a performance car has anything to do with dick size?
you're the dipshit who felt the need to mention it out of the wide blue in a frickin Jeep thread for no apparent reason whatsoever not me
"OK so I don't know shit about Jeeps" ...."But I own a Lambo and worked on a Nova"
WTF I mean really W.T.F. I just think it's really hilarious and kinda sad that boy you just thought I'd be blown away by the fact you own a Lambo and simply couldn't comprehend that for the purposes of this thread I could care less. So then you start some rambling diatribe about a fuckin Nova in a vain effort to soothe you bruised manhood in front of the entire internet In your case if the shoe fits.....well you know BTW What manufacturer designed the first wrangler yj? |
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Posted: 4/19/2009 2:16:30 PM EDT
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Why is it that guys like you always think that having a performance car has anything to do with dick size?
you're the dipshit who felt the need to mention it out of the wide blue in a frickin Jeep thread for no apparent reason whatsoever not me
"OK so I don't know shit about Jeeps" ...."But I own a Lambo and worked on a Nova"
WTF I mean really W.T.F. I just think it's really hilarious and kinda sad that boy you just thought I'd be blown away by the fact you own a Lambo and simply couldn't comprehend that for the purposes of this thread I could care less. Then you start some rambling diatribe about a fuckin Nova. In your case if the shoe fits.....well you know BTW What manufacturer designed the first wrangler yj? I did mention that I had a '69 Nova, as in 1986, that is what I was driving, and where my interests in cars was. What I remember from that time was Chrysler buying Jeep at the time the YJ was released. Never gave it a thought, as I thought the YJ was (and still is) ugly as hell with the square headlights. Never gave them a second glance. And to be honest, it doesn't matter to me one bit that AMC designed the square headlight retard jeep. Chrysler was more than happy to keep it going. Of course, they were also happy with the K car, the LeBaron, and other fugly cars until someone with some brains decided to do the Prowler and the Viper. Now they have some decent cars, but the JK is still butt ugly, just like the YJ. Her is a nice example of the YJ at it best 
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Posted: 4/19/2009 6:01:54 PM EDT
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Sorry I cannot help you, I have a JK. 
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Posted: 4/20/2009 4:29:27 PM EDT
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Look at the progression: CJ YJ TJ then the 4x2 JK, its a joke and Jeep admits it in the model code. get over it already...
I am over it, I bought a TJ the second i heard about the upcomming JK. But i do have some JK in my jeep now so i guess i can really talk. 
Those are JK front turn signals in my grill. The tube fenders are primed and waiting for next weekend, so i needed turn signals, the JK's plug right into the stock wiring and push fit in after using a 3 1/4 holesaw. |
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Posted: 4/20/2009 5:27:59 PM EDT
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Look at the progression: CJ YJ TJ then the 4x2 JK, its a joke and Jeep admits it in the model code. get over it already...
I am over it, I bought a TJ the second i heard about the upcomming JK. But i do have some JK in my jeep now so i guess i can really talk. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/VelociRaptor350/img_1816.jpg Those are JK front turn signals in my grill. The tube fenders are primed and waiting for next weekend, so i needed turn signals, the JK's plug right into the stock wiring and push fit in after using a 3 1/4 holesaw. What kind of mirrors are those? Running with the doors off? You running 33's? What rear diff you do you have? |
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Posted: 4/20/2009 6:23:54 PM EDT
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I'm late to the party, but keep this thing on track and keep it civil, folks.
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Posted: 4/21/2009 2:57:37 AM EDT
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Mirrors are from JeepIt. Doors were off for that day, i put everything back on at the end of the weekend( i have to, fucking thieves). Its a Rubi so D44 front and rear. Tires are 285/75R16 Mickey Thompson MTZ's.
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Posted: 4/21/2009 11:09:12 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2009 4:16:37 PM EDT
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2.5 if you go tube fender. Hell ive seen 37's on 3.75 total.
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Posted: 4/21/2009 4:38:54 PM EDT
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Look at the progression: CJ YJ TJ then the 4x2 JK, its a joke and Jeep admits it in the model code. How many inches of lift does it take to fit 35's on a tj? Without tube fenders, a minimum of 4 inches of lift. If you throw on a 1 inch body lift on top of the 4" lift, you should be set, but if you don't do a body lift, you might end up smacking your fenders,and especially your rear wheel well. It really depends on how much work you want to put into modifying your jeep. AVE makes the Hi Line kit that you theoretically could probably stuff 40 under with a 4"lift Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 4/21/2009 7:08:02 PM EDT
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Look at the progression: CJ YJ TJ then the 4x2 JK, its a joke and Jeep admits it in the model code. How many inches of lift does it take to fit 35's on a tj? Without tube fenders, a minimum of 4 inches of lift. If you throw on a 1 inch body lift on top of the 4" lift, you should be set, but if you don't do a body lift, you might end up smacking your fenders,and especially your rear wheel well. It really depends on how much work you want to put into modifying your jeep. AVE makes the Hi Line kit that you theoretically could probably stuff 40 under with a 4"lift Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile So 5 inches of lift total to fit 35's vs the 3.5 needed on the JK to do it. |
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