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Posted: 12/18/2005 8:44:13 PM EDT
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I bought a orange thing that fits around it and it locks on like a socket and you put a ratchet on it and you can get it off, I used it twice and now I'm stabbing it with a screw driver again
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Posted: 12/18/2005 8:45:55 PM EDT
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My friend told them they come out about every 5 years or so, people realize they suck and then they dont sell them for another 5 years. |
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Posted: 12/18/2005 8:59:07 PM EDT
[#3]
I have one of the Snap On Oil Filter Sockets, looks like a cup with a 3/8 ratchet opening on it
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Posted: 12/18/2005 9:11:36 PM EDT
[#4]
After using all of the methods you mentioned, I got one that is basically a heavy canvas strap and a 1/2" square rod. You just slip the strap around the filter and use a 1/2" ratchet, break over bar, etc. to turn it. It works every time on any size filter. I think I got it for my tractor's oil filter as the diesel oil filter is larger and I got tired of keeping up with all of the different sizes required for small engines, ATV's, truck, tractor, etc.
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Posted: 12/18/2005 9:14:38 PM EDT
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I have all kinds of oil filter tools , from cup type to strap
and steel band type , but the most useful are the pliers type on the majority of vehicles . Here is a Link for reference Filter Pliers . Their prices are good also , but you can probably find the locally at an autoparts store . |
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Posted: 12/18/2005 9:15:39 PM EDT
[#6]
I was looking at those Channellock ones at Harbor freight. |
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Posted: 12/18/2005 9:17:33 PM EDT
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You should only put it on tight enough that you can still remove it with your hand. If the hand is slipping, try a little sandpaper.
If the old one was installed to 300 lbs torque by the WallyWord kid, then use a strap or one of the caps. It really depends on the car, whatever fits better. |
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Posted: 12/18/2005 9:23:18 PM EDT
[#8]
They work well . They also work on the canisters used on home water filters . |
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Posted: 12/18/2005 9:25:04 PM EDT
[#9]
Chuck would bite it off...
I usually use my hand as I do my own and don't tighten them too much, but there are some nice wrenches out there. |
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Posted: 12/18/2005 9:33:26 PM EDT
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Good theory , but it doesn’t hold up in the real world . Over the years I've done tens of thousands of filter changes (Well I used too before I got employees  ) . Filters tend to tighten up with age from the heating and cooling cycles of the engine , and some swell slightly under pressure and deform to tighten them even further . Some engines are worse for it then others , but most will harder to remove then they were to tighten . Granted there are quick oil change monkeys out there who think they are installing lug nuts instead of oil filters , but you can't blame them all the time |
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Posted: 12/18/2005 9:37:33 PM EDT
[#11]
I usually use a cheapo strap wrench I found in the bargain bin at a local hardware store. Last time I used a 18" long 1/2" drill bit and my cordless drill.
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Posted: 12/19/2005 8:33:20 AM EDT
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Channel locks on occasion.
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Posted: 12/19/2005 8:40:57 AM EDT
[#13]
I screw filters on as hard as I can with my thumb and index finger, then when I take them off, I grip with my whole hand and can unscrew them even if they've tightened up. I've never had a leak or stuck filter with this method.
When I bought my jeep, the filter was on so tight that nothing worked except my neighbor's metal strap wrench. I went out and bought one of those the next day. |
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Posted: 12/19/2005 8:42:41 AM EDT
[#14]
This works wonders, more you turn, the tighter it grips
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Posted: 12/19/2005 8:59:55 AM EDT
[#15]
That wouldn't work on my stuck filter; I had to use the metal strap wrench. |
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Posted: 12/19/2005 10:52:33 AM EDT
[#16]
I use one of these, hand-tight, but it's just to pull the cap off for a drop-in filter.
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Posted: 12/19/2005 10:55:36 AM EDT
[#17]
When one gets really stuck, I hammer a phillips screw driver through it and use that as a lever.
Otherwise a band/wrench (standard old school oil wrench). |
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Posted: 12/19/2005 10:57:43 AM EDT
[#18]
I bent the living shit out of two of those. An oil filter by a full length header tends to get stuck.... |
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Posted: 12/19/2005 11:06:10 AM EDT
[#19]
same here |
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Posted: 12/19/2005 11:09:27 AM EDT
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Suck it up and use your hands. By the time you get done finding and operating your tool, I will have removed the filter, rinsed out my mouth because I forgot about gravity, and put the new one on.
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Posted: 12/19/2005 1:16:00 PM EDT
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I use my hand. Before you put on a new filter, apply some oil to the rubber seal, just dip your finger in some and wipe it around the seal. This way it won't seize itself up after time, thus it'll be alot easier to remove.
I've stabbed a long screwdriver through as a lever...but that's only when I first get the car. Every oil change I do after that, I use my hand. You never know how long people have left that filter on when you get a used car. Often times they are stuck on pretty tight. Tighten with your hand. There is no reason it hase to be SUPER tight. Mine have always been a piece of cake to remove, and they don't leak either. |
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Posted: 12/19/2005 1:28:55 PM EDT
[#22]
+1 |
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Posted: 12/19/2005 1:33:05 PM EDT
[#23]
I do the same thing, lube the seal and the threads before install, and I only put it on hand tight, but I have never been able to remove a filter by hand. I actually like poking a hole in the filter because it lets me drain it in a controlled manner tan loosening up have oil dump suddenly and run down into my armpit. |
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Posted: 12/19/2005 1:37:10 PM EDT
[#24]
Gravity sucks.
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Posted: 12/19/2005 1:37:20 PM EDT
[#25]
Buy a K&N filter that has the nut pattern pressed into the shell. 3/4 or 1" is the size IIRC
Otherwise I have one of the wrenches that look like a handcuff with teeth |
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Posted: 12/19/2005 1:50:15 PM EDT
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With all due respect, EAT YOUR WHEATIES!!!  j/k I use the Fram filters that have to rubber grip thing on the end. Makes it easy to get a grip on it. I never get totally under the car when I remove mine. In fact, I don't even have to raise the vehicle. (92 lumina 3.1) I just reach my arm under. My head is usually under the front bumper. Of course, YMMV as different motors will have it in a different spot. I can do it so that I dont get ANY oil on me. The only time I get oil on my fingers is when I remove the drain plug. |
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Posted: 12/19/2005 2:01:21 PM EDT
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if you can fit under a Chevy Lumina without jacking it up, I am not the one needing to eat wheaties..
 I use the same filters. I have a habit of over-tightening, but after having a filter spin off once on a friend's rig, I feel it is better to err on the side of caution. I still ain't ever been able to yank a filter by hand though. I worked a a grease monkey for a couple years too. |
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Posted: 12/20/2005 5:50:46 AM EDT
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I generally use my forearm strength.
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Posted: 12/20/2005 8:02:35 AM EDT
[#29]
wrong. chuck would kick it with the side of his foot, making it spin off |
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Posted: 12/20/2005 10:40:08 AM EDT
[#30]
I recently got a set similar to these - Before that I used channel locks. That stupid foam steel strap wrench did not work. |
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Posted: 12/20/2005 1:31:33 PM EDT
[#31]
I have had good luck with the pliers type, I have a couple of sets and they are great. I prefer to take them off by hand but that isn't always possible. I have never had good luck with the strap type. I have in the past (and likely will again) used the screwdriver through it technique as well.
Just like any other auto service or repair it is all about knowing how to use the correct tool. |
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Posted: 12/20/2005 4:16:11 PM EDT
[#32]
The filter pliers are the ones I use most often and they work better than all my other filter removal tools combined, but in extreme cases I use a 3-Jaw Oil Filter Socket that goes on a 3/8" drive ratchet. That one only comes out for the impossible suckers and hasn't failed me yet, but it's a bit of a pain to use on daily basis. I use this one and an older model with longer, round fingers, but I prefer the new one. 
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Posted: 12/20/2005 8:15:45 PM EDT
[#33]
If it's tight, I begin to start thinking about where I left my strap wrench. After about 20 seconds of deep thought, I hammer a screwdriver in the sumbitch and remind myself not to put it on so damn tight next time.
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Posted: 12/20/2005 8:38:19 PM EDT
[#34]
The Pathfinder - by hand. The angle is just right to get leverage on it.
The truck - 36mm wrench to get the cap off the cannister. Gotta love that Powerstroke. The Porsche - I need a cap-type wrench. Can't get my hand in there with any sort of leverage. |
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