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Posted: 6/6/2002 8:41:13 AM EDT
What I mean is best(most weight)lifted for how much you weight.Mine was @around 25-28ish yrs. old.I weighed 195/200, and I could FULL-slightly below parallel squat(yeahimbragging) 480lbs.X2reps.MAX.A 450+ squat for a 200lb guy ain't small potatos in my book.My bench was alot less colorfull @ 225ish.@195/200lbs.at the same time.Right now, I'm on a maintence more than increaseing weight on the bar type of lifting/streching regiem.
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 8:47:49 AM EDT
[#1]
A few years ago I weighed 175 and could bench 250.  Now I'm older and a little lighter (160) and my bench is only 200.
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 4:49:30 PM EDT
[#2]
(These aren't true 1 rep maxes, we did 3-6 reps and calculated the 1RM. Coach figure 1RM was risky)

210-215 body weight, age: 21

bench: 390
squat: 450
hang clean: 275

Link Posted: 6/7/2002 5:33:46 AM EDT
[#3]
We haven't heard from EdAvilaSr. yet... he must not want to embaress us. [:D]

Link Posted: 6/7/2002 5:50:10 AM EDT
[#4]
Yeah EdA.....how much do your arms weight and how much can you curl[;)]
Link Posted: 6/7/2002 5:57:14 AM EDT
[#5]
Height: 6'
Body weight: 200

Squat:[:)]   505
DeadLift:[:|]475
Bench:[:(]   275

RackPull:[:D]1,115 (with wristwraps)925 (no wraps, DL grip)
 
My Bench and my Deadlift have hit a genetic wall.
I need to gain weight, if I want to get stronger.

My Squat seems to continue to go up.

Link Posted: 6/7/2002 5:59:57 AM EDT
[#6]
Hey Cincinnatus,
 
About your sig line...
I know Juvat means brave, what does the rest mean?
Link Posted: 6/7/2002 6:21:35 AM EDT
[#7]
I was told that it means "fortune favors the bold".

[img]http://www.mcbh.usmc.mil/3mar/images/new%20logo.gif[/img]

Link Posted: 6/7/2002 7:11:00 AM EDT
[#8]
Link Posted: 6/7/2002 7:14:03 AM EDT
[#9]
I always like less reps, for the squat.

135 x 5

135 x 5 (warming up)

225 x 5

315 x 3-5

405 x 2-4

495 x 1
Link Posted: 6/7/2002 8:14:40 AM EDT
[#10]
cincinnatus,
questions for ya.....
how long have you been squating(full squats?)
i have just started training my chicken legs with squats and am working on maintaining form more so than working up in weight.
i've done 6 workouts doing squats,i'm 6 ft and weigh 170 so i am lean.
looking at your sets you do less reps,how much time do you spend on doing your sets?
i go slow and take a deep breath between reps,holding on the way down and exhaling on the way up,is this correct?
my heaviest squating weight is 170 but for 10 reps full squats.
do you think i need more time on form or should i start working up in weight.
thanks
rescue93
Link Posted: 6/7/2002 9:03:03 AM EDT
[#11]
Link Posted: 6/7/2002 2:34:08 PM EDT
[#12]
I had always heard...

>10 is for mass and conditioning

10-5 is for strength and mass

<5 is for strength

our training program for football worked down in reps and up in weight as weeks went by aiming for strength testing.

In my personal experience high reps = big "pump", low reps (4 or less)= strength increase, but not much "pump"
Link Posted: 6/7/2002 4:45:10 PM EDT
[#13]
When I was in my early 20's:

Weight 183 (almost no body fat)

Bench - 360
Full Squat - 450
Deadlift - 485

I have a friend who once held a world record in the bench press. 637 lbs at a body weight of 232 lbs. Amazing.
Link Posted: 6/7/2002 5:09:01 PM EDT
[#14]
At 35, 3 years ago before suffering an A/C seperation;
Bench 325
Squat 400
deadlift ?
This was at 5-9 170 lbs. Bodyfat was around 10-11%. I've got up to 300 on bench again but usually just go for reps with about 225(6-8).
Link Posted: 6/8/2002 7:59:26 PM EDT
[#15]

At my best last year:

Weight: 225 BF:11%
Squat: 455x2
Bench: 295

Now I've trimmed down to 205lbs and am considerably weaker at squats due to the insane amount of running I'm forced to do for the Army.  I am more shredded though.

Something always comes up that I have to quit lifting for a couple weeks to several months.  Needless to say, if it was'nt for the Army I'd be huge.

Link Posted: 6/9/2002 7:46:07 PM EDT
[#16]
I am 6'6" and my best bench was 225x4 before yet another non-lifting injury sidelined me. I am tall so I have never liked squats very much, yet when I was a junoir in high school my legs where twice the size they are now. No kidding.
Link Posted: 6/10/2002 4:27:39 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
cincinnatus,
questions for ya.....
how long have you been squating(full squats?)
i have just started training my chicken legs with squats and am working on maintaining form more so than working up in weight.
i've done 6 workouts doing squats,i'm 6 ft and weigh 170 so i am lean.
looking at your sets you do less reps,how much time do you spend on doing your sets?
i go slow and take a deep breath between reps,holding on the way down and exhaling on the way up,is this correct?
my heaviest squating weight is 170 but for 10 reps full squats.
do you think i need more time on form or should i start working up in weight.
thanks
rescue93
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Form has to be right.
Legs? What are legs?

Here's my form:

1) Legs wide! Wider than your shoulders, as wide as the squat rack allows.

2) The weight should NEVER be on the neck, or even close to it. Your hands should be out, touching the plates.  This will put the weight lower on your back, forcing you to be bent over more (your back should never be upright, that means the weight's on your neck).

TO PUT THE WEIGHT ON THE RIGHT SPOT, YOU WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO STAR BY PUTTING THE WEIGHT LOWER ON THE RACK. YOU DO NOT WANT LIFT UP ON YOU TOES TO PICK UP THE WEIGHT, RATHER YOU WANT TO GET UNDER IT.

3) Head up.

All of this distributes the weight EVENLY between your back, your upper legs, and you hips.

We brought a friend, who has NEVER worked with weights, into our gym, and our program.

He worked with us once every 2 weeks, and was squatting 315 for reps, in 3 sessions.

It's about de-mystifying the weight, and reminding ourselves that the back and the mid-section is the core of our strength, [b]and giving your body the time to recover![/b]  Squats sould never be done more often then once a week, I do them once every TWO weeks.

As far as "time" doing my sets goes... I just do it.

FORM. Get wide, get low.
Link Posted: 6/10/2002 3:59:28 PM EDT
[#18]

Squats, what a great lift.

A lot of guys follow something similar to what Cincinnatus described.  It really depends on your goals. Guys that squat like that are after lifting more weights.  
If you want great looking legs, I'd suggest doing more of a bodybuilding squat.  Legs shoulder width, slow, deliberate pace, and go down to just below parallel.  This will build your "chicken legs" as you say.  The wider your feet are apart, the lesser your range of motion is, and it forces you to bend at the waist more, recruiting your back muscles more.  

To get really awesome Arnold-looking legs, work your way up to sets of 315lbsx10 doing the squats described above.  Progressive overload my friend.

Me, I do some of both.  I'll spend 3-4 weeks doing squats in the 1-3 rep range, w/ a slighlty wider stance(although not extremely wide).  I also do 10-15 rep squats w/ a slightly closer than shoulder width stance-that burns.  And, I do everything in between.

Good luck
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