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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Accidental Shooting at Ray's Sporting Goods

Posted: 3/28/2006 7:53:54 AM EDT

This was in the March 27th Star Ledger.

Man shoots self in leg in accident at practice.

A man practicing his shooting at in indoor range at Ray's Sporting Goods in North Planfield accidentally shot himself in the leg yesterday, officials said. Scott Loglisci, 31, of Scoth Plains was putting his 9mm Beretta back into its hip holster when the gun fired at about 2pm, said police Chief William Parenti. The bullet pierced Loglisci's upper right theigh and came out about a half-inch down his leg. Loglisci is in stable condition at Overlook Hospital in Summit, Parenti said. Parenti said the shooter must have caught his finger in the trigger or that the holster caught the trigger as he was putting the gun away.

Posted: 3/28/2006 7:55:18 AM EDT

[#1]

What an ass

Posted: 3/28/2006 7:56:14 AM EDT

[#2]

Man, I was thinking about heading over there that day, glad I didn't. The place must've been swarming with police.

Also, I didn't know you could wear holsters on the firing line at Ray's, unless you're LE.

Posted: 3/28/2006 8:20:19 AM EDT

[#3]

And, if he was putting the gun away, why was it still loaded?

Posted: 3/28/2006 8:27:43 AM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
And, if he was putting the gun away, why was it still loaded?

When you carry, is you handgun empty? Mines not.

Posted: 3/28/2006 8:40:27 AM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
Quoted:
And, if he was putting the gun away, why was it still loaded?

When you carry, is you handgun empty? Mines not.

Here in NJ, there is almost no carrying allowed, unless you are a LEO, work for a security firm and are on duty, or very well connected. A NJ CCW is a bit of a rarity.

Posted: 3/28/2006 8:56:20 AM EDT

[#6]

True...but at the range (depending on the range) you can. At Atlantic county firearms range you can carry hot, only rule is NO ammo in the club house. As long as it is holstered you are OK. You due have to take their "holstering" class for $15 to use a holster on the range but it is WELL worth the money. I learned a lot on technique and it was only 4 hours.

Posted: 3/28/2006 8:58:48 AM EDT

[#7]

finger off the trigger, thumb on rear of slide and holster.

Posted: 3/28/2006 9:48:05 AM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
finger off the trigger, thumb on rear of slide and holster.

Good way to loose a thumb.

Posted: 3/28/2006 9:57:40 AM EDT

[#9]

Ouch! Shit happens!

Posted: 3/28/2006 11:09:32 AM EDT

[#10]

I shoot at Ray's often, and as far as I know, and have seen, there is no holster carry allowed. Perhaps the paper got the info wrong. Always seems the range officers are on the ball and watching things.

Posted: 3/28/2006 11:55:34 AM EDT

[#11]

Ouch! Well, the important thing is that the guy is OK!

Posted: 3/28/2006 12:04:48 PM EDT

[#12]

Good thing it was 'only' a 9mm
He might have blown his leg off with a 'real' cartridge!
Hope he makes a full recovery.

Posted: 3/28/2006 2:22:26 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
Good thing it was 'only' a 9mm
He might have blown his leg off with a 'real' cartridge!
Hope he makes a full recovery.

You do know a lot about "real" cartridges, Don't you?

Sorry to hear about this.

Posted: 3/29/2006 3:41:04 AM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
And, if he was putting the gun away, why was it still loaded?

And the hammer back and not on safe.........

Posted: 3/29/2006 7:27:17 AM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
Quoted:
finger off the trigger, thumb on rear of slide and holster.
Good way to loose a thumb.

Well if the finger is off the trigger, then there wouldn't be an issue. The thumb on the back of the slide insures that the weapon in properly chambered and will fire when you draw it.

Posted: 3/29/2006 7:38:27 AM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
finger off the trigger, thumb on rear of slide and holster.
Good way to loose a thumb.

Well if the finger is off the trigger, then there wouldn't be an issue. The thumb on the back of the slide insures that the weapon in properly chambered and will fire when you draw it.

Finger off trigger, thumb on rear of slide, weapon goes into holster, thumb strap accidentally goes into trigger guard (it does happen alot), weapon is fully inserted and goes off, thumb is taken off. Next?

Posted: 3/29/2006 7:49:29 AM EDT

[#17]

For handguns with external hammers, I think the practice of placing one's thumb on the hammer is a good one. If the holster does have a retention strap and gets caught in the trigger guard, "feeling" the hammer move rearward lets you know something bad will happen unless you stop what you are doing.

Posted: 3/29/2006 11:12:00 PM EDT

[#18]

Could have been a retired LEO qualifying for his carry permit hence the holstering of the gun on the range.
Ray's offers that service.

Posted: 3/30/2006 1:19:24 AM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:
Could have been a retired LEO qualifying for his carry permit hence the holstering of the gun on the range.
Ray's offers that service.

Retired at 31? I need a job like that.

Posted: 3/30/2006 4:30:41 AM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Could have been a retired LEO qualifying for his carry permit hence the holstering of the gun on the range.
Ray's offers that service.

Retired at 31? I need a job like that.

Posted: 3/30/2006 5:15:42 AM EDT

[#21]

Could be "retired". Couple years on the job, injured on duty, 66.6% for life.

Posted: 3/30/2006 6:28:09 AM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
finger off the trigger, thumb on rear of slide and holster.
Good way to loose a thumb.

Well if the finger is off the trigger, then there wouldn't be an issue. The thumb on the back of the slide insures that the weapon in properly chambered and will fire when you draw it.
Finger off trigger, thumb on rear of slide, weapon goes into holster, thumb strap accidentally goes into trigger guard (it does happen alot), weapon is fully inserted and goes off, thumb is taken off. Next?

If you say so. 35+K NYPD officers and we all have our thumbs.

Posted: 3/30/2006 6:57:36 AM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
If you say so. 35+K NYPD officers and we all have our thumbs.

Oh, I forgot you guys carried Glocks with 25 lb. trigger pulls.

Just kiddin occifer.

Posted: 3/30/2006 5:25:22 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:
Quoted:
If you say so. 35+K NYPD officers and we all have our thumbs.
Oh, I forgot you guys carried Glocks with 25 lb. trigger pulls. Just kiddin occifer.

I wish it were a joke, but it's true

They do train up to keep our thumbs on the slide while holstering to insure that the gun stays in battery, but I also realize we use safariland 295 holsters that don't have a thumb strap.

Posted: 3/31/2006 4:28:54 AM EDT

[#25]

its 73.7% now. im 37 and retired. i will be at rays on monday to requalify.

Posted: 3/31/2006 7:00:10 AM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:
its 73.7% now. im 37 and retired. i will be at rays on monday to requalify.

Retired from where?????

Posted: 3/31/2006 4:14:22 PM EDT

[#27]

retired from active law enforcement due to an on duty injury.

Posted: 4/3/2006 3:11:05 PM EDT

[#28]

it was a civilian who was not authorized to be using a holster on the range.

Posted: 4/3/2006 3:58:55 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:
it was a civilian who was not authorized to be using a holster on the range.

I figured it was a "civilian", I normally don't see too many .mil guys on the line there.

Posted: 4/5/2006 4:41:04 AM EDT

[#30]

Let me be the first to say, "that's gonna leave a mark".

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Accidental Shooting at Ray's Sporting Goods

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