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Posted: 3/28/2006 7:53:54 AM EDT
This was in the March 27th Star Ledger.

Man shoots self in leg in accident at practice.

A man practicing his shooting at in indoor range at Ray's Sporting Goods in North Planfield accidentally shot himself in the leg yesterday, officials said. Scott Loglisci, 31, of Scoth Plains was putting his 9mm Beretta back into its hip holster when the gun fired at about 2pm, said police Chief William Parenti. The bullet pierced Loglisci's upper right theigh and came out about a half-inch down his leg. Loglisci is in stable condition at Overlook Hospital in Summit, Parenti said. Parenti said the shooter must have caught his finger in the trigger or that the holster caught the trigger as he was putting the gun away.


Link Posted: 3/28/2006 7:55:18 AM EDT
What an ass
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 7:56:14 AM EDT
Man, I was thinking about heading over there that day, glad I didn't. The place must've been swarming with police.

Also, I didn't know you could wear holsters on the firing line at Ray's, unless you're LE.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 8:20:19 AM EDT
And, if he was putting the gun away, why was it still loaded?
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 8:27:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Fishpaw:
And, if he was putting the gun away, why was it still loaded?



When you carry, is you handgun empty? Mines not.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 8:40:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By IRWFO:

Originally Posted By Fishpaw:
And, if he was putting the gun away, why was it still loaded?



When you carry, is you handgun empty? Mines not.



Here in NJ, there is almost no carrying allowed, unless you are a LEO, work for a security firm and are on duty, or very well connected. A NJ CCW is a bit of a rarity.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 8:56:20 AM EDT
True...but at the range (depending on the range) you can. At Atlantic county firearms range you can carry hot, only rule is NO ammo in the club house. As long as it is holstered you are OK. You due have to take their "holstering" class for $15 to use a holster on the range but it is WELL worth the money. I learned a lot on technique and it was only 4 hours.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 8:58:48 AM EDT
finger off the trigger, thumb on rear of slide and holster.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 9:48:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BeachPatrol:
finger off the trigger, thumb on rear of slide and holster.

Good way to loose a thumb.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 9:57:40 AM EDT
Ouch! Shit happens! gd
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 11:09:32 AM EDT
I shoot at Ray's often, and as far as I know, and have seen, there is no holster carry allowed. Perhaps the paper got the info wrong. Always seems the range officers are on the ball and watching things.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 11:55:34 AM EDT
Ouch! Well, the important thing is that the guy is OK!
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 12:04:48 PM EDT
Good thing it was 'only' a 9mm
He might have blown his leg off with a 'real' cartridge!
Hope he makes a full recovery.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 2:22:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/28/2006 2:23:02 PM EDT by bear3351]

Originally Posted By njJoniGuy:
Good thing it was 'only' a 9mm
He might have blown his leg off with a 'real' cartridge!
Hope he makes a full recovery.




You do know a lot about "real" cartridges, Don't you?


Sorry to hear about this.
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 3:41:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Fishpaw:
And, if he was putting the gun away, why was it still loaded?



And the hammer back and not on safe.........
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 7:27:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PK90:

Originally Posted By BeachPatrol:
finger off the trigger, thumb on rear of slide and holster.

Good way to loose a thumb.



Well if the finger is off the trigger, then there wouldn't be an issue. The thumb on the back of the slide insures that the weapon in properly chambered and will fire when you draw it.
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 7:38:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Vinnie:

Originally Posted By PK90:

Originally Posted By BeachPatrol:
finger off the trigger, thumb on rear of slide and holster.

Good way to loose a thumb.



Well if the finger is off the trigger, then there wouldn't be an issue. The thumb on the back of the slide insures that the weapon in properly chambered and will fire when you draw it.

Finger off trigger, thumb on rear of slide, weapon goes into holster, thumb strap accidentally goes into trigger guard (it does happen alot), weapon is fully inserted and goes off, thumb is taken off. Next?
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 7:49:29 AM EDT
For handguns with external hammers, I think the practice of placing one's thumb on the hammer is a good one. If the holster does have a retention strap and gets caught in the trigger guard, "feeling" the hammer move rearward lets you know something bad will happen unless you stop what you are doing.
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 11:12:00 PM EDT
Could have been a retired LEO qualifying for his carry permit hence the holstering of the gun on the range.
Ray's offers that service.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 1:19:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By J_M_C:
Could have been a retired LEO qualifying for his carry permit hence the holstering of the gun on the range.
Ray's offers that service.



Retired at 31? I need a job like that.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 4:30:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By LUGERMAN:

Originally Posted By J_M_C:
Could have been a retired LEO qualifying for his carry permit hence the holstering of the gun on the range.
Ray's offers that service.



Retired at 31? I need a job like that.



Link Posted: 3/30/2006 5:15:42 AM EDT
Could be "retired". Couple years on the job, injured on duty, 66.6% for life.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 6:28:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PK90:

Originally Posted By Vinnie:

Originally Posted By PK90:

Originally Posted By BeachPatrol:
finger off the trigger, thumb on rear of slide and holster.

Good way to loose a thumb.



Well if the finger is off the trigger, then there wouldn't be an issue. The thumb on the back of the slide insures that the weapon in properly chambered and will fire when you draw it.

Finger off trigger, thumb on rear of slide, weapon goes into holster, thumb strap accidentally goes into trigger guard (it does happen alot), weapon is fully inserted and goes off, thumb is taken off. Next?



If you say so. 35+K NYPD officers and we all have our thumbs.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 6:57:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Vinnie:
If you say so. 35+K NYPD officers and we all have our thumbs.

Oh, I forgot you guys carried Glocks with 25 lb. trigger pulls. Just kiddin occifer.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 5:25:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PK90:

Originally Posted By Vinnie:
If you say so. 35+K NYPD officers and we all have our thumbs.

Oh, I forgot you guys carried Glocks with 25 lb. trigger pulls. Just kiddin occifer.



I wish it were a joke, but it's true

They do train up to keep our thumbs on the slide while holstering to insure that the gun stays in battery, but I also realize we use safariland 295 holsters that don't have a thumb strap.
Link Posted: 3/31/2006 4:28:54 AM EDT
its 73.7% now. im 37 and retired. i will be at rays on monday to requalify.
Link Posted: 3/31/2006 7:00:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By imhardkore:
its 73.7% now. im 37 and retired. i will be at rays on monday to requalify.

Retired from where?????
Link Posted: 3/31/2006 4:14:22 PM EDT
retired from active law enforcement due to an on duty injury.
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 3:11:05 PM EDT
it was a civilian who was not authorized to be using a holster on the range.
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 3:58:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By imhardkore:
it was a civilian who was not authorized to be using a holster on the range.




I figured it was a "civilian", I normally don't see too many .mil guys on the line there.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 4:41:04 AM EDT
Let me be the first to say, "that's gonna leave a mark".
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