As in are the remanufactured Olympic Arms lowers that are out there still considered legal with all the "evil" AW features attached?

As many of us remember, under the old Federal AWB, it was deemed permissible by the BATF to replace & remanufacture a defective or damaged lower. In the Q&A section of an old (1990's) ATF "Yellow book", the following exchange occurs (p. 112):

"Q- Are replacement parts for grandfathered semiautomatic assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices subject to regulation under the law? A- No.  Parts may be replaced in grandfathered semiautomatic  assault weapons and grandfathered feeding devices without violating the law.  However, if the frame or a receiver for a semiautomatic assault weapon is defective, the replacement  must be made by the weapons manufacturer or importer.  The replacement must be marked with the same serial number as the original receiver, and the original receiver must be destroyed. However, a manufacturer or importer who is unable to mark the  replacement receiver with the same serial number as the original receiver may seek a marking variance in accordance with 27 CFR 178.92.  In addition, the permanent records of the manufacturer or importer should indicate that the receiver for the weapon has been replaced."

Now I know that the stated legislative intent of the NYS AWB was to mirror the federal ban, so one could reasonably surmise that the BATF's ruling on the matter would carry some weight when it comes to interpreting the NYS ban, but "reason" and NYS gun law have very little in common these days, so I have to wonder... has any state ruling been handed down on this issue?  

Quoted: It has the same serial number as the replaced/destroyed lower.  How could they prove otherwise?

In any serious probe of a receivers "pre ban" status, state authorities would call the manufacturer.  I have to believe that a complete disclousure would include the info that the receiver in question had been remanufactured on such & such a date and returned to the owner.      

Now, don't give the state dunderheads any ideas.

Amen brother!

Quoted: so I have to wonder... has any state ruling been handed down on this issue?

I've searched both court decisions and administrative opinions extensively, and have found no cases or written opinions which provide any guidance in interpreting the NYS Law. The NY Courts could well follow federal interpretation of the defunct federal ban, but are not bound to do so.  There are no definitive answers on any interpretation questions until  the NY Courts actually rule on  such questions.

Rkbar15... care to opine on the matter?

Assuming it has the same SN what ACDer and H-R said.

They hate our guns and dont want us to have them. But will let us replace or repair out existing ones. How does this make any sense?

Quoted: As in are the remanufactured Olympic Arms lowers that are out there..........

NYP - Might I inquire as to where "out there" is?

Any idea if they come with 'documentation'?

....love to have a go at one.

Jav

Quoted: Quoted: As in are the remanufactured Olympic Arms lowers that are out there.......... NYP - Might I inquire as to where "out there" is? Any idea if they come with 'documentation'? ....love to have a go at one. Jav

Oly Arms will still remanufacture any pre ban lower that you send them... all you have to do is request the service (& pay for it of course).

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: As in are the remanufactured Olympic Arms lowers that are out there.......... NYP - Might I inquire as to where "out there" is? Any idea if they come with 'documentation'? ....love to have a go at one. Jav Oly Arms will still remanufacture any pre ban lower that you send them... all you have to do is request the service (& pay for it of course).

I heard Oly no longer offers that service, even to people in banned states. You better call them to make sure, before you make plans of buying a beater preban Oly lower.

They do still offer this service,  I called and asked about it a few weeks ago.  The cost is $100.00 + shipping.  The only part I question is that if say it is an old SGW stop sign liwer,  the new reciever would have the lion emblem instead of the stop sign,  even though it would have the same serial #.  

Quoted: They do still offer this service,  I called and asked about it a few weeks ago.  The cost is $100.00 + shipping.  The only part I question is that if say it is an old SGW stop sign liwer,  the new reciever would have the lion emblem instead of the stop sign,  even though it would have the same serial #.

Based on pics of remanufactured lowers I've seen,  I'm pretty sure Oly puts the original SGW stop sign logo back on the new receiver.