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Posted: 2/17/2006 6:01:24 AM EDT
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You do realize that the ACLU will be all over that shit if you guys try anything right?
I'm fairly certain that camp is under surveillance. |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 6:04:28 AM EDT
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Better to be in legal trouble for tresspassing,than hearing someone trained there and struck us later!
We cannot be passive.Besides,all I am saying is we need to check it out,not destroy the camp  ....at least,not until we are sure it is a training camp
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Posted: 2/17/2006 6:20:53 AM EDT
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Tag for later. Although I'm not so keen on on anything posted to WorldNetDaily...But still...you never know
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Posted: 2/17/2006 6:29:03 AM EDT
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Well, this could make for an interesting road trip.
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Posted: 2/17/2006 6:42:49 AM EDT
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Right now,we need to gather info,maps,etc.
If anyone wants to check it out SOON,let me know.All specific discussions will be off the net I am checking this out on my own if need be,so it is not a matter of IF we get enough people,but rather it is better to have more that 1 person doing it. If nothing else,the trip will be good training in infiltration techniques,patrolling,escape and evasion (hopefully not needed  ),etc.Good stuff to know in SHTF situations.I would rather do the training than argue about what to put in a BOB 
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Posted: 2/17/2006 6:49:17 AM EDT
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Probably a good idea to delete this thread.
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Posted: 2/17/2006 6:51:58 AM EDT
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Nah,just don't discuss anything spacific.
We'll recruit here,then move off line |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 6:58:54 AM EDT
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Only address I can come up with in NY is
2732 Roods Creek Road --------- Google Earth Cords: 42-01'57.58" N 75-20'31.76" W Hancock, NY 13783 Another 755 Flintlock Drive York, SC 29745 And last but not least: Mian Mir Sharif Lahore, Pakistan All addresses are obtained off there open access to anyone web site ... http://www.holyislamville.org/ I google earthed it and it falls in the hills of the Catskill Mountains , approximatly 40 miles southeast of Binghamton, N.Y. just like the article says..google earth doesnt show a very good image of the area but it is in a valley amoung tall hills..... Looks like theres may be some legitamacy to this... |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 7:10:55 AM EDT
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Thanks for the ingo.
Anything else will be most welcome 
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Posted: 2/17/2006 7:21:59 AM EDT
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I live about about 1.5 hours from hancock and travel down that way often for work. Let me know what you need and I will see what I can do. I will be doing some logging work for the DEC down there for the next 2 weeks.
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Posted: 2/17/2006 7:47:05 AM EDT
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What County is that location?
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Posted: 2/17/2006 7:48:57 AM EDT
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Guys, don't be stupid. You can bet your ass that Homeland Security is all over that place. No need for us to get involved.
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Posted: 2/17/2006 7:49:26 AM EDT
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If I had to bet money I would say the eff bee eye is already aware of this.
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Posted: 2/17/2006 7:53:14 AM EDT
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Yeah, the entire area is in low resolution on Google Earth. While the area seems remote enough for something like this, I'm still unsure.
Any serious reconnaissance of the area would inolve being off the beaten path, and if a serious <insert word> compound be dangerous. |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 8:00:32 AM EDT
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When you google earth that Roods Road address, it is incorrect. From what I can tell it is actually more north than that address. I believe the compound is closer to Moslem Road. On google earth there appears to be a compound very close to the area of Moslem Road, and somewhere off of Roods Road.
Edit: Ok, I have pinpointed the location on Google Earth of Moselm Road and Roods Road using roadmaps available on google and other sites directly. |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 8:05:04 AM EDT
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This is great. An ARFCOM close target recce... keep me updated...
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Posted: 2/17/2006 8:05:58 AM EDT
[#17]
delaware |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 8:15:47 AM EDT
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Its a bit of a haul from Buffalo, but if anyone wants to caravan for a "camping trip" in the Catskill Forest Park region, I'm good to go.
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Posted: 2/17/2006 8:19:33 AM EDT
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For your Google Earth perusal, I believe this to be a more accurate location of the compound. Keep in mind this is preliminary and of course I'm working on information that I got from that article and other google searches.
Google Earth Lat/Long: 42 03'51.92" N, 75 20'36.59" W You'll see that this places you directly on a a light colored splotch which may be a clearing with buildings, and near another area (North West just a teeny bit from the main area) which appears to be a darker colored area (may possibly be a big dirt clearing or something? Firing range?) Google Earth measure calls this area about .11 +/- .01 across in various directions...In other words, about .11 square miles....11 square miles is about 70 acres...70 acres is the purported size of the compound in the article! That triangle of what appears to be roads to the East of the area in question is Roods Road and Moslem Road.  Google Map of Hancock, NY, zoom in near the water to see Moslem and Rood Road |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 8:20:58 AM EDT
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I live right around the corner from hancock. Just say go and I'm there.
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Posted: 2/17/2006 8:36:28 AM EDT
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I found another satellite imagery service (Microsoft is apparently giving it a try) image that agrees with my thoughts. The pictures are actually better than Google Earth.
 local.live.com/default.aspx?cp=42.058457|-75.337571&style=h&lvl=15&v=1 This actually shows a main compound area and two smaller ancillary compound areas. Rood Road is marked, and Moslem Road is the unmarked road headed SE in the bottom right corner of the map. The road IS marked, but not when the image is centered like this. |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 9:06:13 AM EDT
[#22]
Looks like a great place for a pig roast. Say the word and the "caja china" is mobile.
We park out in front of the place and have a bash!! |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 9:26:30 AM EDT
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 Roasted pig,Cuban style  Maybe we can make this a Spring picnic.Accessible from PA,NYC and western NY Can test night vision equipment,etc  I say we plan this for Spring,which is around the corner.Find a nearby camping site,range,etc and as a site seeing trip,we check the neighbors out. I'll bring the beer! 
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Posted: 2/17/2006 9:44:19 AM EDT
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Ed,
I can swing by the county office building and get tax maps and owner info if you want. I am in the timber industry and can probably get permission from the surronding land owners to walk thier property and scope it out and do some recon work for you. If anyone with a pistol permit want to join me, feel free. |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 9:54:23 AM EDT
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That would ROCK! Don't go by yourself. Let me know when you are ready and I will join you! |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 9:56:45 AM EDT
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Let me suggest any additional future plans not be on a publicly viewed site and taken to Emails or IM. All they have to do is see this thread and realize people are coming under the guise of timber loggers.
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Posted: 2/17/2006 9:58:46 AM EDT
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I'm up for a pig roast. And lots of bacon for breakfast, of course. Would this be a good trip to lug the long range photography gear along? I'd love to do some wildlife photography up there, spring should be good for the nuthatches and the 1200mm stabilized lens lets me get good pictures of the skittish little creatures. Since I can't bring handguns or post-ban lowers to NY from NJ, I might as well bring optics to share. Nice stabilized binoculars for spotting too. Somewhere I've got a statewide collection of topo maps that are overlaid with known roads and trails, forget the publisher but I picked them up a while ago while scouting for places to buy land for a winter cabin.
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Posted: 2/17/2006 10:05:18 AM EDT
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Yes! You can bring your post-ban rifle to NY,just don't bring a no-ban upper on a post-ban lower...in case they check it. |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 11:12:03 AM EDT
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Hmmm. Good thing we know a lawyer. We may want to leave him home on this excursion-so he can bail us out
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Posted: 2/17/2006 11:16:21 AM EDT
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Sounds like its turning into a real sneak-n-peak operation. Tell you what, I'll stay in the rear with the beer and the gear! Just call me the camp bitch.
I cut-pasted an article from 2002 from The New York post about this place. Its been 'discovered' a long time ago by the media, DHS, FBI, etc. Take a look at the link to the other thread in General. |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 11:33:26 AM EDT
[#31]
wish i was home- i'm right by there.... and i'd def love to come, have some friends who may be interested though- i'll give a heads up....
-Roth |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 11:49:01 AM EDT
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This has been posted many times before from such completely unreliable sources as Worldnetdaily. One of the other stories had "angry townsfolk" rallying to attack the compound, Worldnetdaily basically has no real reporters, 99% of their reporting is pulled off the net without fact verification, if it is anti-muslim anti-aclu, "they're out to get the evangelicals" etc it'll get published-it's wet dream stuff for tinfoil hat extreme rightwingers.
Even a blind squirrel sometimes finds an acorn, but I'd want to see something more reliable before I would waste the gas money. edit-All right, I'll make a few phone calls next week, but I'm not going to post anything about it in any event. edit2-now if someone else is driving and buying dinner, that'd be a different story... 
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Posted: 2/17/2006 11:57:12 AM EDT
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Squirrels,nuts,penguins......same difference!
Anyway,what about a camping trip there in the Spring with those who can make it from NY,NJ,PA and any other place that wants to go. Then, a couple of us go and check the story out with the neighbors.If any truth we take a closer look. Case closed! Why don't you tell the guys in the other thread what you know about this "intelligence" net nuts.Who cares if they call you an apologist? SP10 and I have called you worse!
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Posted: 2/17/2006 11:59:56 AM EDT
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I was just outside, and it's cold out, but call me if you need to get bailed out or something.
As much as I dread throwing any gas on this fire, there are supposedly pictures of this place, I've seen them posted here before. |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 12:01:27 PM EDT
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Posts from the FreeRepublic, regarding this place.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/619941/posts/ Left link cold FWIW. |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 12:02:02 PM EDT
[#36]
Not now.In the S-P-R-I-N-G! 
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Posted: 2/17/2006 12:07:39 PM EDT
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There's a new york post article in the other thread that's a little more coherent than the first post. I'm guessing you can't get anywhere near it without tresspassing and even if you do you'll see some muslims walking around some shitty mobile homes out in the boonies. I guess we could put sp10 in a ghillie suit with a string tied to his ankle and send him crawling in.... |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 12:12:21 PM EDT
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Heres a pdf report:
www.homelandsecurityus.com/ulFuqra.pdf cold link |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 12:43:55 PM EDT
[#39]
Camping trip sounds good in the spring of course
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Posted: 2/17/2006 12:57:50 PM EDT
[#40]
Roasted pig? ? ?
I am in!
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Posted: 2/17/2006 1:11:11 PM EDT
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Hi John! Are you saying this is BS/hysteria or woth looking into? |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 1:26:58 PM EDT
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Definitely worth looking into Ed - all the ties this 'org' has with both Pakistan and around the US, I'm certainly curious.
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Posted: 2/17/2006 1:39:34 PM EDT
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This did make my local paper last year.
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Posted: 2/17/2006 1:39:41 PM EDT
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Swell. I think a |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 2:12:27 PM EDT
[#45]
IM or call me EdSr.
Aimless - What is your retainer? |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 2:46:55 PM EDT
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If you do a google on the group that runs the compound, you will find links to a bunch of info on them as well as some blog entries. Found out they have compounds in some other states as well, closest being VA and the NY compound. Definitely peaks your curiosity.
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Posted: 2/17/2006 2:47:27 PM EDT
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This report is pretty friggin disturbing. Their head honcho was the one who set up Daniel Pearl, and that alone earns him a one way trip to meet Allah in my book. Think he'd accept a bunch of 55 grain engraved invitations from the crew here? |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 3:26:37 PM EDT
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Ed, I think this is a great idea. Alot less invasive (sp?) then what I was planning  . I would love to have a campout, pig roast, and meet everyone. If there is no truth to this story than aleast we will have a fun camping trip to remember. pete |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 4:27:31 PM EDT
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I have Delorme Topo maps on CD rom for that area and a digital video camera that could be handy. I’m in for a camping trip and some “hiking” if we do it in the spring. A good place to meet is the Roscoe diner in Roscoe about 25 mile east of Hancock on RT 17, good food. Looking at the map this camp is closer to Deposit than Hancock. Rich V |
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Posted: 2/17/2006 4:30:07 PM EDT
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Tagged, and IM sent for spring camping fun!
 Oh, and that report from 'homeland security US' (whoever they are) is disturbing.  But it's always the one you don't see that gets ya...  |
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