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Posted: 9/5/2021 10:37:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As with most classes the round count is a best case scenario, as in every student is spun up and a killer/shooter. Most times it’s several hundred rounds lower based off my experience. Everyone wants to be a gunfighter until it’s time to learn to be a gunfighter. You are correct. |
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Posted: 9/5/2021 10:45:16 PM EDT
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Definitely interested....coming from N dfw id have to find a room any recommendations.
And a good eye doctor I can't see my pistol sights for shit...... 
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Posted: 9/5/2021 10:46:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I honestly dont see a class needing 1200 rounds. I have taken alot of classes and never sent that many rounds downrange and some classes were 14+ hour days. Hell, I've got a 3day class coming up that just needs 500r/550p. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 1200rds of ammo is worth more than the class... ouch these days. I'm a maybe, even have Hilton points so staying in Waco wouldn't cost more on top or have to make the drive 2x a day as scooting down 35W/35 ain't no picnic I honestly dont see a class needing 1200 rounds. I have taken alot of classes and never sent that many rounds downrange and some classes were 14+ hour days. Hell, I've got a 3day class coming up that just needs 500r/550p. Can you share Details in the class? |
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Posted: 9/5/2021 11:37:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/6/2021 12:24:45 AM EDT
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Any ammo restrictions?
I think I have half a case each of M855, M193 and MK262 Mod1 left; so just need pointers on what to order. |
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Posted: 9/6/2021 8:37:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you share Details in the class? I did TNVC Nightfighter back in March. It was my anniversary present to myself.  Armed professional at Alliance PD is October 1st. |
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Posted: 9/6/2021 1:14:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I honestly dont see a class needing 1200 rounds. I have taken alot of classes and never sent that many rounds downrange and some classes were 14+ hour days. Hell, I've got a 3day class coming up that just needs 500r/550p.  Attached FileThis image was taken at 12:47pm on a Saturday at Tiger Valley's pistol 1 course. That's 1250 rounds down range. |
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Posted: 9/6/2021 1:55:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Attached FileThis image was taken at 12:47pm on a Saturday at Tiger Valley's pistol 1 course. That's 1250 rounds down range. are there shooters on the long ranges when that bay is in use? |
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Posted: 9/6/2021 5:37:33 PM EDT
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Certainly interested, but if COVID doesn’t slack (I’m in healthcare) I won’t be able to make it.
I do need such a course though. |
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Posted: 9/6/2021 6:03:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: are there shooters on the long ranges when that bay is in use? I'm not saying it can't be done. Tactical Response I believe requires 2k per day so take it for what it's worth... And no, I'm not comparing Tj to Ditch Bitch. I haven't been able to snag a Yeti class yet but got a few buddies who have. They shot I believe 400 rounds over 2 days and they said it's by far the best pistol class they have ever taken. Fundamentals and mastering the basics can be done with far less rounds and with the economy and ammo shortage, instructors relying on heavy ammo classes are I'm sure not seeing the business they once were. |
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Posted: 9/6/2021 7:59:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I for sure would be interested.  BIGGER_HAMMER 
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Posted: 9/7/2021 12:48:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/230525/7C2342DD-DACB-4AC8-8EEB-8CF1E427794B_jpe-2080537.JPG This image was taken at 12:47pm on a Saturday at Tiger Valley's pistol 1 course. That's 1250 rounds down range. Personally, I would not view that as a selling point or a metric for indicating how good a class is. (I'm not suggesting you are doing that, by the way). Even when ammo was cheaper, I still sought instruction with a quality vs. quantity mindset when it comes to round counts. If someone was paying for my ammo (job, sponsor, or other source) I can see where there is not really a downside. If there was a fantastic instructor that was planning courses around a very high round count, one could always self-limit during the exercises I suppose. |
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Posted: 9/8/2021 8:18:44 AM EDT
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I'd definitely be interested as it's been a few years since I did some actual training.
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Posted: 9/8/2021 9:11:06 AM EDT
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PFC
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Posted: 9/8/2021 1:44:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: PFC huh? |
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Posted: 9/8/2021 5:20:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any ammo restrictions? I think I have half a case each of M855, M193 and MK262 Mod1 left; so just need pointers on what to order. If I remember TJ requested that no m855 on his steel targets. But I could be wrong. The subject did not come up at the last class I took there. |
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Posted: 9/8/2021 5:23:03 PM EDT
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Oh, and I am interested in going. Would bring my son also and plan to camp on site.
I have take the LVL II carbine three times, but as said before, TJ take a measure of the skill of the shooters and adjusts accordingly. |
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Posted: 9/8/2021 5:26:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: huh? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: PFC huh? hrt joined the army? I dunno either. 
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Posted: 9/8/2021 7:38:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: hrt joined the army? I dunno either. That's what I thought but didn't want to sound retarded. |
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Posted: 9/8/2021 7:40:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: hrt joined the army? I dunno either. The most experienced and educated PFC ever?
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Posted: 9/8/2021 9:20:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: huh? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: PFC huh? Pending Fiscal Calendar Pending Family Counseling Penis For Cash Pretty Fucking Committed |
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Posted: 9/8/2021 9:21:59 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pending Fiscal Calendar Pending Family Counseling Penis For Cash Pretty Fucking Committed I'm going with, Penis for cash for $500.00 Alex
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Posted: 9/8/2021 9:26:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I remember TJ requested that no m855 on his steel targets. But I could be wrong. The subject did not come up at the last class I took there. Thats what I would expect as well, no M855 to prolong the life of the targets. Just couldn't find it in writing on their site. |
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Posted: 9/8/2021 9:35:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I remember TJ requested that no m855 on his steel targets. The nerve of that guy 
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Posted: 9/8/2021 9:36:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thats what I would expect as well, no M855 to prolong the life of the targets. Just couldn't find it in writing on their site. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If I remember TJ requested that no m855 on his steel targets. But I could be wrong. The subject did not come up at the last class I took there. Thats what I would expect as well, no M855 to prolong the life of the targets. Just couldn't find it in writing on their site. No tracers as well. |
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Posted: 9/8/2021 9:39:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pending Fiscal Calendar Pending Family Counseling Penis For Cash Pretty Fucking Committed Too many possibilities....I'm cornfused.
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Posted: 9/8/2021 10:09:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Too many possibilities....I'm cornfused. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Pending Fiscal Calendar Pending Family Counseling Penis For Cash Pretty Fucking Committed Too many possibilities....I'm cornfused. Well, you foreigners aren’t as smart as us white men.
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Posted: 9/8/2021 10:53:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/8/2021 11:11:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat didn't help. I are a tard. |
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Posted: 9/8/2021 11:17:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The most experienced and educated PFC ever? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: hrt joined the army? I dunno either. The most experienced and educated PFC ever? 
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Posted: 9/8/2021 11:47:34 PM EDT
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I think this would be a great chance to get together on a real range for real training and a great time when we are done. I'll be camping in a tent. TJ has showers at the site. I can tell you that round count is optional. You'll be able to shoot as much as you like. Some of the iterations are super fun (movers) and you may want to shoot a lot then...
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Posted: 9/9/2021 6:14:20 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I honestly dont see a class needing 1200 rounds. I have taken alot of classes and never sent that many rounds downrange and some classes were 14+ hour days. Hell, I've got a 3day class coming up that just needs 500r/550p. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 1200rds of ammo is worth more than the class... ouch these days. I'm a maybe, even have Hilton points so staying in Waco wouldn't cost more on top or have to make the drive 2x a day as scooting down 35W/35 ain't no picnic I honestly dont see a class needing 1200 rounds. I have taken alot of classes and never sent that many rounds downrange and some classes were 14+ hour days. Hell, I've got a 3day class coming up that just needs 500r/550p. My thoughts entirely. 1200/200 in two days is shooting for shooting’s sake. To each their own. |
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Posted: 9/10/2021 1:19:06 PM EDT
[#33]
Interested for sure but a little too much going on right now to commit 100%.
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Posted: 9/11/2021 8:07:26 AM EDT
[#34]
I’m in. I’ve been looking to do some training there. Level 1 would be good for me as I don’t have much professional training. Let me know when things are finalized.
I have camping gear (10x14 canvas tent) or always have a grip of hotel points due to work. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 2:58:06 AM EDT
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Hmm! Just seen this thread. I went out to TV with some friends summer before last for some run and fun stuff. Loved the tower, especially with select-fire. There was this Marine with a legit M203 who missed the tank target (he had only one shot 40mm blue chalk round). This same Marine went up/down the tower stairs with his gas mask on, it was a HOT day. I wore shorts and scraped my knees all up (that didn't stop me).
Fun times! I might be interested depending on the dates. I'll need to count my boolits first. |
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Posted: 9/15/2021 7:57:04 AM EDT
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Interested, but sourcing ammo....
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Posted: 9/15/2021 9:46:50 AM EDT
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https://www.targetsportsusa.com/ggg-223-remington-ammo-55-grain-fmj-ggg223-p-111864.aspx
If you are a club member its $551 I know that is a lot of money. Just trying to be helpful not suggesting its cheap. |
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Posted: 9/15/2021 9:49:45 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/15/2021 9:52:12 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/15/2021 9:59:30 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/15/2021 12:37:17 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OK so we have one drunk person in.....  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And sorry, not sorry for responding to Lug's blast text. You're welcome for my response. He's not drunk, the rest of us are too sober. I'm tentatively in for this. That means I have 5 months to lose the cereal gut, and to see if I get a new job after my impending job termination. |
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Posted: 9/15/2021 2:03:41 PM EDT
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Any gear recommendations? Or is a pistol belt with a mag pouch sufficient?
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Posted: 9/15/2021 2:20:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any gear recommendations? Or is a pistol belt with a mag pouch sufficient? Answer forthcoming from somebody at some point. I want to have some sort of useful gear when I go. I have been to a class before and my setup just didn't support what the class was about. |
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Posted: 9/15/2021 4:25:53 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any gear recommendations? Or is a pistol belt with a mag pouch sufficient? I use a war belt. It makes my belly look sexy Anything that will carry mags will work. Chest rig, plate carrier, war belt, mag pouches on a regular belt, pretty much anything. |
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Posted: 9/15/2021 4:44:10 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He's not drunk, the rest of us are too sober. I'm tentatively in for this. That means I have 5 months to lose the cereal gut, and to see if I get a new job after my impending job termination. Me and you have butted heads in the past but if you ever need work, look me up. I might can help you out at least temporarily. |
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Posted: 9/15/2021 5:54:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Me and you have butted heads in the past but if you ever need work, look me up. I might can help you out at least temporarily. Quote HistoryQuoted: Me and you have butted heads in the past but if you ever need work, look me up. I might can help you out at least temporarily.  Quoted: Any gear recommendations? Or is a pistol belt with a mag pouch sufficient? If you want to wear a chest rig with doodads go for it. Dump pouches are like 9 vs 45, but I've found them to be useful for additional mags and other crap you feel like rucking around 
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Posted: 9/15/2021 7:17:49 PM EDT
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Hmmm. Didn't think about a dump pouch...
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Posted: 9/15/2021 7:22:48 PM EDT
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Generally, you’ll need a good belt and holster and a way to cary 1-2 pistol mags and 1-3 rifle mags as most importantly a good rifle sling. But their is not much point in buying tons of gear to only use once or twice. You can get by with carrying mags in your pockets if that’s how you’ll be carrying them in a fight.
If I can make it I’ll bring a extra duty belt, pouches and chest rig. I’ll camp out in my hot tent that I used to survive snowpocalypse.  
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Posted: 9/15/2021 7:51:32 PM EDT
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Everyone pretty much covered it. A good sling, belt of some kind with a holster/pouch to carry mags. Sunscreen and weather appropriate clothing. Classes are a great way to sort out your gear. You will figure out what does and doesn’t work well. I run a battle belt and chest rig. Keeping things simple and streamlined is a big help.
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Posted: 9/15/2021 8:00:44 PM EDT
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bring magazine loaders, gloves, knee pads, elbow pads, notepad and pen, way to mark and distinguish your magazines, rifle and pistol cleaning gear, batteries and spares for all your electronics, backup rifle and pistol if so inclined...
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