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Posted: 9/6/2010 6:42:44 PM EDT
im going to buy an m4, but not sure of which ranges i can shhot it at? any ideas, thanks
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 6:47:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2010 6:48:58 PM EDT by Joethe33]
Originally Posted By tinob:
im going to buy an m4, but not sure of which ranges i can shhot it at? any ideas, thanks
M4 (NFA aka Fully Automatic) ? Or do you mean an AR-15? (Semi automatic sporting rifle.)

also, where do you live? In the Houston Area, theres quite a few. The only places you cant around me, is Marksman Indoor Range and Best Shot Range.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 8:29:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By tinob:
im going to buy an m4, but not sure of which ranges i can shhot it at? any ideas, thanks


An M4 is no different than any other semi auto .223 rifle.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 4:23:24 PM EDT
I live in dallas
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 4:39:11 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 4:47:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By r-2-k-b-a:
Originally Posted By tinob:
im going to buy an m4, but not sure of which ranges i can shhot it at? any ideas, thanks


An M4 is no different than any other semi auto .223 rifle.


Maybe semantics, but in case it isn't.

Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:33:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sweatpants:

Originally Posted By r-2-k-b-a:
Originally Posted By tinob:
im going to buy an m4, but not sure of which ranges i can shhot it at? any ideas, thanks


An M4 is no different than any other semi auto .223 rifle.


Maybe semantics, but in case it isn't.



From my understanding, a true M4 (lower & upper) is post 86 so only available to mil/leo. There are semi configurations using an M4 upper. With that said, AR15 are generic and interchangeable.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:45:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tboy:
Originally Posted By sweatpants:

Originally Posted By r-2-k-b-a:
Originally Posted By tinob:
im going to buy an m4, but not sure of which ranges i can shhot it at? any ideas, thanks


An M4 is no different than any other semi auto .223 rifle.


Maybe semantics, but in case it isn't.



From my understanding, a true M4 (lower & upper) is post 86 so only available to mil/leo. There are semi configurations using an M4 upper. With that said, AR15 are generic and interchangeable.

Not exactly, but whatever floats yer boat.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 6:04:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sweatpants:

Originally Posted By r-2-k-b-a:
Originally Posted By tinob:
im going to buy an m4, but not sure of which ranges i can shhot it at? any ideas, thanks


An M4 is no different than any other semi auto .223 rifle.


Maybe semantics, but in case it isn't.



I just call my LMT ar15/m4gery an m4, since that's what it's modeled after.

Link Posted: 9/7/2010 6:10:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sweatpants:

Originally Posted By Tboy:
Originally Posted By sweatpants:

Originally Posted By r-2-k-b-a:
Originally Posted By tinob:
im going to buy an m4, but not sure of which ranges i can shhot it at? any ideas, thanks


An M4 is no different than any other semi auto .223 rifle.


Maybe semantics, but in case it isn't.



From my understanding, a true M4 (lower & upper) is post 86 so only available to mil/leo. There are semi configurations using an M4 upper. With that said, AR15 are generic and interchangeable.

Not exactly, but whatever floats yer boat.


Can you elaborate?
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 6:17:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tboy:
Originally Posted By sweatpants:

Originally Posted By Tboy:
Originally Posted By sweatpants:

Originally Posted By r-2-k-b-a:
Originally Posted By tinob:
im going to buy an m4, but not sure of which ranges i can shhot it at? any ideas, thanks


An M4 is no different than any other semi auto .223 rifle.


Maybe semantics, but in case it isn't.



From my understanding, a true M4 (lower & upper) is post 86 so only available to mil/leo. There are semi configurations using an M4 upper. With that said, AR15 are generic and interchangeable.

Not exactly, but whatever floats yer boat.


Can you elaborate?

You can get FA guns as as a regular guy with a C3 or SOT license. And if we're going to be really specific a civilian M4 variant still lacks the 14.5" barrel, although that isn't an issue with a real deal FA M4.

At the end of the day, I'll still consider AR15s that look like M4s ... AR15s.


Link Posted: 9/7/2010 8:44:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/7/2010 8:45:36 PM EDT by Tboy]
Originally Posted By sweatpants:

Originally Posted By Tboy:
Originally Posted By sweatpants:

Originally Posted By Tboy:
Originally Posted By sweatpants:

Originally Posted By r-2-k-b-a:
Originally Posted By tinob:
im going to buy an m4, but not sure of which ranges i can shhot it at? any ideas, thanks


An M4 is no different than any other semi auto .223 rifle.


Maybe semantics, but in case it isn't.



From my understanding, a true M4 (lower & upper) is post 86 so only available to mil/leo. There are semi configurations using an M4 upper. With that said, AR15 are generic and interchangeable.

Not exactly, but whatever floats yer boat.


Can you elaborate?

You can get FA guns as as a regular guy with a C3 or SOT license. And if we're going to be really specific a civilian M4 variant still lacks the 14.5" barrel, although that isn't an issue with a real deal FA M4.

At the end of the day, I'll still consider AR15s that look like M4s ... AR15s.




You CAN NOT get transferable post 86 machine guns as an individual and since the lower designates type of AR, which M4s were made well after 86. Dealers don't count in this discussion because they must get a sample letter and hold these items as inventory. And M4's don't take clips.

Now if I could only find a smoking deal on a transferable DIAS.

ETA: In Texas, individuals get stamps, dealers get licenses.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 1:55:28 AM EDT
AR 15's don't take clips either......they use magazines.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 4:09:15 AM EDT
back on track,
call Mickey at Ammo Depot for a lease key, ~$300/year
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:09:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Tboy:
Originally Posted By sweatpants:

Originally Posted By Tboy:
Originally Posted By sweatpants:

Originally Posted By r-2-k-b-a:
Originally Posted By tinob:
im going to buy an m4, but not sure of which ranges i can shhot it at? any ideas, thanks


An M4 is no different than any other semi auto .223 rifle.


Maybe semantics, but in case it isn't.



From my understanding, a true M4 (lower & upper) is post 86 so only available to mil/leo. There are semi configurations using an M4 upper. With that said, AR15 are generic and interchangeable.

Not exactly, but whatever floats yer boat.


Can you elaborate?

True at one time, bit somewhere along the way, Colt started stamping some Semi-Auto guns "M4" (6921 as a an example). As a result, "M4" stamping no longer always mean F/A. Thus it is possible to have a M4 marked Colt, that is not F/A.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:13:24 AM EDT
Originally Posted By RenegadeX:

Originally Posted By Tboy:
Originally Posted By sweatpants:

Originally Posted By Tboy:
Originally Posted By sweatpants:

Originally Posted By r-2-k-b-a:
Originally Posted By tinob:
im going to buy an m4, but not sure of which ranges i can shhot it at? any ideas, thanks


An M4 is no different than any other semi auto .223 rifle.


Maybe semantics, but in case it isn't.



From my understanding, a true M4 (lower & upper) is post 86 so only available to mil/leo. There are semi configurations using an M4 upper. With that said, AR15 are generic and interchangeable.

Not exactly, but whatever floats yer boat.


Can you elaborate?

True at one time, bit somewhere along the way, Colt started stamping some Semi-Auto guns "M4" (6921 as a an example). As a result, "M4" stamping no longer always mean F/A. Thus it is possible to have a M4 marked Colt, that is not F/A.


Thanks for the correction, I was not aware of the change. I knew somebody would chime in with more knowledge.

And back on track, if you like to shoot, spend the extra money for a key at Mickey's. DFW crew will be shooting out there on the 26th and Mickey will allow day use for $15. Check it out but keep in mind this is a field with no facilities so prepare accordingly.
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