Quoted: Quoted: My daughter would definitely be interested in going. She's a pretty damn good shot. A lot better than her mom. I don't have kids, but I will help where I can. Since you have kids, would you like to start a new thread on this? -E.

I really don't have time to organize this thing. I would really like to but I'm afraid that if I started I wouldn't be able to do everything in a timely manner. With real work and running another business my time is limited and I'm lucky to be able to get them out to the range every once in a while.

I'd be willing to help out with whatever I could since I do have a free day every now and then.

Michael

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: When did this happen, and was there an incident that prompted it?  How was this announced? Extremely high winds. Announced by Ralph, Saturday. <snip> However, the owner, Ralph, mentioned Saturday that Bump Firing WILL have to stop. Ok, I am not arguing.  And I agree that bump firing is dangerous.  However, what does bump firing have to do with high winds?

 Wind definitely affects the flight of bullet.  Wind, with velocity of 100 mph, can carry your round off another 2.0 inches at 50 yards (zero at 20 yards).  So bump-firing can cause the shift another 5 to 10 inches or so. ....

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I got out there this afternoon after the kids got out of school. I didn't get to do any shooting though, it was all her. www.thetacticalsolution.com/hostedpictures/baby01.jpg www.thetacticalsolution.com/hostedpictures/baby02.jpg www.thetacticalsolution.com/hostedpictures/baby03.jpg www.thetacticalsolution.com/hostedpictures/baby04.jpg That's awesome! And from what I hear, this is exactly what the owner likes to see on his range! Does she ever get to shoot some of your "good stuff" ? Not yet. She started shooting my 10/22 when she was 3, with me holding and aiming it and her in my lap pulling the trigger. When she turned 8 she got her own gun which she is shown shooting and she also shoots my Walther P22. Her 6 year old brother comes with us sometimes but he doesn't like shooting rifles too much he prefers handguns because he says he "groups better".

 SHe's waaaaayyyyyy ahead on me then......I first picked up 10/22 was couple years ago.

Quoted: well, now that some idiot has revealed the power line issue (could it be there was a reason for not posting it???), I guess I will tell ya before someone starts making up rumors of what happened...

I've always found that the truth is the best defense against rumors.  Anytime an issue is covered up, it quickly blows out of proportion.

After inspection of the power line that caused a HUGE fire, there were *at least* 3 nicks in it according to Ralph, and it is believed that bump firing could be the #1 cause of those nicks,

Not to split too many hairs, but I would say the #1 cause is a bullet strike.  To assume that it came from bump-firing might be a little more than logic could dictate.

which weakened the line. The winds were VERY (that's not yelling, its just bold caps to emphasize) strong Saturday, and it is believed, coincidentally, that the line snapped due to a possbile weaknesses.

Again, not really being a smartass, but yeah, lines that are weakend snap.  If it had nicks in it, it was a matter of time until it came down.  I am sure a close inspection could reveal if it was broken as a result of an old impact, or a recent 'dead center' strike.

It was obviously a freak accident--

Freak accident?  A line that is downrange of a firing line, that gets shot multiple times is not a 'freak accident' when it finally succumbs.  It is called negligence.  

I don't think anyone who was out there intentionally tried to shoot the line.

That should be easy enough to prove.  If someone raised a rifle/pistol above the berm, the Range Safety Officer should have noticed

I have some theories on what else could have caused it, but who knows... maybe ricochets after hitting the burm could have possibly nicked or cut the line. GPSR and other places do not allow FMJ because they say it will bounce/roll up. (this makes sense too)

All bullet bounce and roll if they strike a surface at the proper angle.  Rocks can skip a pond if tossed correctly.  

or maybe previous shooters to the range may have took shots at birds on the wire, causing nicks to weaken the line. etc.

Maybe.

But, determining that bump firing is the cause is a stretch, if you ask me.  The people on site when the fire broke out were helping put out the fire, right?  They didn't just grab their gear and beat feet like a guilty party?

A charged powerline is bad ju-ju, but I would think that the people on site should have been able to knock down a grassfire pretty quickly.  Especially if they saw the event unfold.

TRG

Are they  going to bill Ralph for the damage to the line?  

Quoted: Quoted: Are they  going to bill Ralph for the damage to the line?   Any outside line repair is considered mtce work that comes with the rediculous bill we pay each month just as it would with your outside phone or cable service.

Accidentally cut a phone line and see if they come fix it for free....