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Posted: 9/13/2010 7:45:38 AM EDT
Anyone got any good loads for this ?
I want a powder/load for the 115 g lead bullet for gallery and a full power load for the 110 grain sierra fmj to get out to 200 yards with.
There,s not a lot of load info out there for the pistol powders unfortunatly.
Thanks in advance guys.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 7:55:40 AM EDT
I'd imagine it'd be fairly similar to the whisper?
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 7:57:00 AM EDT
If you e-mail Sierra, they'll send you a pdf file with pretty comprehensive data.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 8:07:09 AM EDT
Originally Posted By lynk:
I'd imagine it'd be fairly similar to the whisper?


Similar - but not the same!!

Vit N110 powder with a 110gr spire point bullet:
.30 Carbine, 18" barrel - starting 12.1 grains (1786fps), max 14.0 grains (1983fps) (Vit Data)
.300 Whisper, 10" barrel - starting 13.7 grains (1700fps), max 17.7 grains (2000fps) (Sierra Data)
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 8:13:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/13/2010 8:15:52 AM EDT by mr_purple]
Originally Posted By baldie:
Anyone got any good loads for this ?
I want a powder/load for the 115 g lead bullet for gallery and a full power load for the 110 grain sierra fmj to get out to 200 yards with.
There,s not a lot of load info out there for the pistol powders unfortunatly.
Thanks in advance guys.


110gr - 13.4gr No9 = 2150 fps (18" )

(remember the rules on reloading , start low and build up, but this is the load i use for 300yds)
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 8:31:40 AM EDT
Originally Posted By target-hunter:
Originally Posted By lynk:
I'd imagine it'd be fairly similar to the whisper?


Similar - but not the same!!

Vit N110 powder with a 110gr spire point bullet:
.30 Carbine, 18" barrel - starting 12.1 grains (1786fps), max 14.0 grains (1983fps) (Vit Data)
.300 Whisper, 10" barrel - starting 13.7 grains (1700fps), max 17.7 grains (2000fps) (Sierra Data)


Yeah, sorry, what I really meant by that is for the low pressure stuff (8-900fps lead bullet) you'd probably be safe with the same loads. I'm planning on trying 3grains of NobelSport GM3 in the Whipper with the 115gr Lead hardcast bullets, (GM3 is v. similar to Vhit N320) as a cheap gallery load Another option is 7.2grains of N110. The higher end of the pressure spectrum its obviously going to make more difference.

Trouble with getting light loads for these is that a lot of the american data is all about getting a load which will cycle the action (or even make a power factor) but (unfortunately) we don't have that issue.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 8:47:19 AM EDT
I'd wondered about GM3 in the Whisper as well. I used to use it in my 10mm with 180gr lead bullets, and figured it should be similar. If you try it, please report back! GM3 is nice & cheap as well!
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 9:56:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By mr_purple:
Originally Posted By baldie:
Anyone got any good loads for this ?
I want a powder/load for the 115 g lead bullet for gallery and a full power load for the 110 grain sierra fmj to get out to 200 yards with.
There,s not a lot of load info out there for the pistol powders unfortunatly.
Thanks in advance guys.


110gr - 13.4gr No9 = 2150 fps (18" )

(remember the rules on reloading , start low and build up, but this is the load i use for 300yds)


Who makes no.9 mr P ?

Also, who has gm3 powder these days ? weve not seen it up north since the pistol days ?

Thanks for your info.

Link Posted: 9/13/2010 10:18:40 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:21:59 AM EDT
baldie- for max performance try 123gr lapua head backed up with 12.3grns no9 = 1950 fps (18") This is very good at 200-300yds (It will feed off a standard 223 mag )
Safe reloading .
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:37:22 AM EDT
Originally Posted By baldie:
Originally Posted By mr_purple:
Originally Posted By baldie:
Anyone got any good loads for this ?
I want a powder/load for the 115 g lead bullet for gallery and a full power load for the 110 grain sierra fmj to get out to 200 yards with.
There,s not a lot of load info out there for the pistol powders unfortunatly.
Thanks in advance guys.


110gr - 13.4gr No9 = 2150 fps (18" )

(remember the rules on reloading , start low and build up, but this is the load i use for 300yds)


Who makes no.9 mr P ?

Also, who has gm3 powder these days ? weve not seen it up north since the pistol days ?

Thanks for your info.



We get it via Peter Lawman and for price I've not found anything cheaper, it's obviously not as consistent etc as some, but at about half the price of many others for my 25yrd loads it really doesn't make any disernable difference. Only think I find "wrong" with it in that application is that it's a bit dirty, nothing as bad as a .22 tho. I use 3.2 under any .357 (125,140,158 or 180gr) and 4.4 under a 240gr .44

I'll let you know how it goes in the whisper once I've got the gun
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:46:24 AM EDT
Sierra 2105 FMJ + 13,3 grain N110 in Lake City 1944 cases, OAL 42,5 mm, gives approx 1750 fps in a 1944 Inland, which makes me think that the SP bullet is a bit longer ("pointier") than the FMJ i.e. there is a bit of air above the powder. Next test lot will be with 13,8 grains. Goal is to hit 1950 fps so the sights "fits". (We shoot at 200 meters).
Soren
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 12:07:16 PM EDT
A wealth of info there guys,....thank you very much. I,ve dealt with Peter a bit, i,ll get some gm3 from him, and possibly some vhit 110 from Hannams tomorrow. Great stuff.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 4:58:52 AM EDT
Hi, I load a thousand rounds of this at a time because I have 4 M-1 Carbines that I've gotten from CMP over the years.
12 grains of Win 296 is my military dup. Please understand this little cartridge has very little room for adjustment. The only time I had a kaboom from too little powder was when I was trying to develop a sub-sonic load so Arms Tech could market an internal pest control round that would be silent from a supressed carbine. It was 10 years ago so I can't remember the particular formula, but stay within the norms and you will be good.
I also used the Sierra 130 grain S P with some success, but I had to work the bolt by hand but it was amazingly accurate.

I recommend all the powders alteady given plus H110, and 296 (which may be the same powder)
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