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Posted: 2/27/2006 3:46:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/27/2006 3:46:42 PM EDT by Aimless]
Wondering. Is it legal to deer hunt with an AR in Michigan? Wasn't sure of any caliber or mag capacity restrictions.
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 3:45:11 PM EDT
I don't know about your state's legality on the particular gun but are your deer that small that a .223 will knock them down? You'd have to place your shot perfectly so you don't wound the critter.
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 3:49:32 PM EDT
If the 223 will knock a human down, it will knock a deer down.
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 3:53:06 PM EDT
The Smallest cartridge you can hunt deer with in Michigan is a .243
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 3:56:25 PM EDT
Well, that answers that question. Thanks guys.
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 4:48:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/27/2006 4:52:00 PM EDT by bump0x]

Originally Posted By ballisticbill:
The Smallest cartridge you can hunt deer with in Michigan is a .243



source?

ETA: Only reference I saw on te DNR website was this....


Q. What caliber or gauge of firearm (rifle, shotgun, pistol) can I use to hunt deer north of the “Rifle-Shotgun Line”?

Any caliber or gauge is legal north of the “Rifle-Shotgun Line” except a .22 caliber rimfire or smaller caliber rimfire rifle or pistol. All centerfire rifles and handguns and all shotguns are legal in this area regardless of caliber or gauge.



DNR FAQ
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 5:00:58 PM EDT
Wow, that is great. Now, should I call the DNR to see if there's a magazine capacity restriction?
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 5:11:22 PM EDT
Yes, it is a centerfire round.
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 5:43:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RobbieB:
Wow, that is great. Now, should I call the DNR to see if there's a magazine capacity restriction?

Yes there is, 5 rounds. And, that dude's link is right too. You can hunt deer with a 223. You just need to be smart about it. Use the right ammo. I know a guy that hunts Elk with a 22-250. His theory is why shoot a bazooka when a pill will do the job. He says that in his experience, on such a big animal, they will think they were bit by a bug, and bleed to death without knowing what hit them by the time they walk 30 yards. Where as a 375 H&H for example will scare the shit out of them and then you get the adrenalin rush problems. Makes sense to me. Would I try it? Probably not.

Rob
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 7:22:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/28/2006 5:38:32 AM EDT by steelhead]
RobbieB, I just got done asking the Michigan DNR the same question. They informed me that any center fire cartridge is acceptable regardless of caliber. The key word is center fire, of course you have to be in the rifle zone. If you don't believe me, ask for yourself.
midnr.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/MiDNR.cfg/php/enduser/std_alp.php
Craig
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 2:11:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/28/2006 2:12:23 AM EDT by RobbieB]
Oh, I'm not doubting you on that, I just thank you all for helping figure it out. Great bunch of guys here!

Now I have 9 months to find a 5 round magazine. lol
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 3:39:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RobbieB:
If the 223 will knock a human down, it will knock a deer down.



white tail is alot tuffer, than most people. if you dont find a mag, let me know. i have a pile.
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 5:37:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/28/2006 5:38:16 AM EDT by steelhead]
RobbieB, Same here, I have a couple Colt five rounders I could let go too.
Craig
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 8:56:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RobbieB:
Wow, that is great. Now, should I call the DNR to see if there's a magazine capacity restriction?



There is a magazine restriction - 5 rounds in Mag and 1 in barrel.
If you will be hunting with an AR please use good ammo and pick your shot carefully.
I assume you will be hunting in the rifle zone?
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 12:33:31 PM EDT
You can also "plug" your 30 rounders to only accept 5 rnds. I did this just recently to 4 of my 30's, so they would be legal for varmints and small game. I searched and what i found said that as long as the mag has to be "disassembled" for the plug to be removed it would be ok.
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 2:35:25 PM EDT
We use the Partition bullet with Varget. Good accuracy and a decent hole.

The AR with a modern military scope (Trijcon or Holo) is perfect for woods shots.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 6:13:36 AM EDT
RB, check johnmasen,com for the 5 rounders. about $16 +s/h


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