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Posted: 3/30/2017 11:11:34 PM EDT
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What were you selling?
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Posted: 3/31/2017 1:46:12 AM EDT
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What were you selling? |
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Posted: 3/31/2017 8:06:08 PM EDT
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I look at Utah Gun Exchange several times a week. I've been a member here/lurker for a decade and haven't ever been on the EE.
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Posted: 4/1/2017 9:51:58 AM EDT
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I have bought and sold many on the UGE. No problems. Utah Guns website, not so much.
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Posted: 4/1/2017 11:35:02 PM EDT
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UGE is great. Just watch out for scumbags (inspect items really well before you buy / trade).
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Posted: 4/6/2017 11:31:05 AM EDT
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I have my temporary UT Drivers License and am going nuts waiting for my official DL to arrive so I can start selling guns. Have several shotguns, a VEPR with type 2 sights setup for a can and several other things Ill be selling as soon as I have my DL. Looking forward to selling on the UGE since I prefer selling in person.
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Posted: 4/8/2017 4:09:57 AM EDT
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I have my temporary UT Drivers License and am going nuts waiting for my official DL to arrive so I can start selling guns. Have several shotguns, a VEPR with type 2 sights setup for a can and several other things Ill be selling as soon as I have my DL. Looking forward to selling on the UGE since I prefer selling in person. Let me know how close that is to the actual offers you receive once you start selling. 
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Posted: 4/8/2017 5:17:28 PM EDT
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I've sold around a dozen guns on there and all but one of them were relisted the following day at a higher price. The problem with me is that I'm an honest seller. I'll put 20,000 rounds down range in a gun, then instead of re-barreling it, I'd rather sell it and buy a new one. So I'll put my gun up for sale on UGE listing the estimated round count, list whether or not the barrel is key holing or has throat erosion, then sell it for cheap.
24 hours later, I see my gun relisted at a higher price by the same scumbag that bought it off of me, but it's now listed as having only had 200 rounds fired through it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Will you take 50% under asking price for the VEPR? What about a straight trade for a full size M&P 40 cal? The stippling was professionally done by me (not to brag). It looks like it spent 3 years in Afghanistan but I've only put Let me know how close that is to the actual offers you receive once you start selling. |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 2:05:53 AM EDT
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Will you take 50% under asking price for the VEPR? What about a straight trade for a full size M&P 40 cal? The stippling was professionally done by me (not to brag). It looks like it spent 3 years in Afghanistan but I've only put like one magazine through it. Let me know how close that is to the actual offers you receive once you start selling. None of the offers were as ridiculous as what you warned me about but I did have to very quickly start cutting people off with lines like "sorry youre 4th in line" or "youre 7th in line, I appreciate your interest but its unlikely we will get a chance to do business" kinda crap before I just took the ad down. I was hesitant to put my cell on the ad and now Im glad I didn't. But hey, both buyers came to me and paid my asking price, I'm happy. I also should admit that I have sold a LOT of guns, mags, ammo and random crap over the years. Over on Calguns, I have an ITrader (like the EE here) rating with 50 verified sales, and thats factoring in that most buyers don't leave ITrader feedback. So I'm well versed in ridiculous lowballing, snake oil salesmen, flakes, scam artists, retards forgetting their DL's (shit you not), straw man attempts, and flippers. If anything, I imagine these are all worse in CA since there are rules regulating what can come up (so the few guys with loopholes to get the hot items can and do charge double or more the regular price). And before that I lived in TX and sold plenty on Armslist. Ive never been comfortable buying used (unless its like a surplus SKS or something not normally found in stores), so 95% of the time I only sell on these sites, never buy. Cuz ya I dont trust for sale ads. EVER.
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Posted: 4/17/2017 2:19:23 AM EDT
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I've sold around a dozen guns on there and all but one of them were relisted the following day at a higher price. The problem with me is that I'm an honest seller. I'll put 20,000 rounds down range in a gun, then instead of re-barreling it, I'd rather sell it and buy a new one. So I'll put my gun up for sale on UGE listing the estimated round count, list whether or not the barrel is key holing or has throat erosion, then sell it for cheap. 24 hours later, I see my gun relisted at a higher price by the same scumbag that bought it off of me, but it's now listed as having only had 200 rounds fired through it. Every gun on UGE has had 200 rounds through it. 
And "I just bought this last week and am only selling it because of health problems" |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 11:10:53 AM EDT
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the re seller assholes are EXACTLY why I wont budge from my price anymore. It happened on a USP I sold, guy put it right back up for more than I was asking for the first time. fuckem
this guy Tysonnious is one of the worst offenders. some guy sold him his FNX and Tysonnious even used the guys very pix to repost it so the guy called him out on it. |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 11:44:53 AM EDT
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the re seller assholes are EXACTLY why I wont budge from my price anymore. It happened on a USP I sold, guy put it right back up for more than I was asking for the first time. fuckem
this guy Tysonnious is one of the worst offenders. some guy sold him his FNX and Tysonnious even used the guys very pix to repost it so the guy called him out on it. Guy used my same pictures to sell the DPMS, then sent me a text asking me to remove my ad, but I edited my ad to state the exact price I sold it for and the name/number of the guy I sold it to, then left it there til it expired. |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 12:19:49 PM EDT
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... None of the offers were as ridiculous as what you warned me about but I did have to very quickly start cutting people off with lines like "sorry youre 4th in line" or "youre 7th in line, I appreciate your interest but its unlikely we will get a chance to do business" kinda crap before I just took the ad down. I was hesitant to put my cell on the ad and now Im glad I didn't. ... |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 2:43:09 PM EDT
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the re seller assholes are EXACTLY why I wont budge from my price anymore. It happened on a USP I sold, guy put it right back up for more than I was asking for the first time. fuckem
this guy Tysonnious is one of the worst offenders. some guy sold him his FNX and Tysonnious even used the guys very pix to repost it so the guy called him out on it. I sold some 22LR to a guy that needed it for the "boy scouts". Didn't run an add for it just a guy in the neighborhood. Gave him a deal on two CCI bulk packs. He had it listed online later that day for $20 more. |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 11:48:34 AM EDT
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I'm surprised the ATF hasn't talked to him yet. I work with someone who has an ex that works for the ATF out of the SLC office and part of their job was to keep track of the local classified ads. I've heard of them setting up bust for exactly this kind of stuff. I sold some 22LR to a guy that needed it for the "boy scouts". Didn't run an add for it just a guy in the neighborhood. Gave him a deal on two CCI bulk packs. He had it listed online later that day for $20 more. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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the re seller assholes are EXACTLY why I wont budge from my price anymore. It happened on a USP I sold, guy put it right back up for more than I was asking for the first time. fuckem
this guy Tysonnious is one of the worst offenders. some guy sold him his FNX and Tysonnious even used the guys very pix to repost it so the guy called him out on it. I sold some 22LR to a guy that needed it for the "boy scouts". Didn't run an add for it just a guy in the neighborhood. Gave him a deal on two CCI bulk packs. He had it listed online later that day for $20 more. |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 9:24:03 PM EDT
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Another welcher appears to have flaked out. I just love when people ask me to hold items for a couple of days until they get paid / can meet up then fall off the face of the planet. I wish there was a list of these morons so I didn't have to waste my time with them.
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Posted: 5/22/2017 12:35:29 AM EDT
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Dang, I haven't had any bad luck with UGE so far and I've got a guy driving from Logan down to meet me in Orem tomorrow to pickup my VEPR.
We chatted some and he's also ex army so I think he seems like a good dude. Throwing in a few Yugo combloc mags to offset the gas he's spending on the drive. Only had a few other sales but they've all gone smoothly too |
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Posted: 5/22/2017 12:38:11 AM EDT
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Only negative experience I have had was I got an offer for my golden tiger (8k Rds) and the guy offered me $100 below my asking price and I said yes. Half an hour later another guy offered my asking price. Felt like a dumbass but I didn't wanna flake after already committing to the first guy so I just prayed he'd cancel but he didn't lol so I sold to him.
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Posted: 5/23/2017 4:57:37 AM EDT
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Only negative experience I have had was I got an offer for my golden tiger (8k Rds) and the guy offered me $100 below my asking price and I said yes. Half an hour later another guy offered my asking price. Felt like a dumbass but I didn't wanna flake after already committing to the first guy so I just prayed he'd cancel but he didn't lol so I sold to him.  I listed a nice handguard for $150. Guy offered me $100 plus some steel case .223 and Wildcat .22lr (total value of $15 in ammo). I agreed then a couple hours later a second guy offered $150 for the rail. When I said it was pending sale he offered $160. That deal hurt, a lot.
However I've been on the other end. I was really excited to pick up a nice HK. Seller agreed to meet me the following day (I was at work). Then, when I texted him the next day to set up a time and place to meet he said he sold it to someone else. That has happened to me a few times actually. Everyone who is rude, buyers who back out, and sellers who break agreements get blocked in my phone so I know not to deal with them again. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 10:04:14 AM EDT
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Know that feel.. I listed a nice handguard for $150. Guy offered me $100 plus some steel case .223 and Wildcat .22lr (total value of $15 in ammo). I agreed then a couple hours later a second guy offered $150 for the rail. When I said it was pending sale he offered $160. That deal hurt, a lot.
However I've been on the other end. I was really excited to pick up a nice HK. Seller agreed to meet me the following day (I was at work). Then, when I texted him the next day to set up a time and place to meet he said he sold it to someone else. That has happened to me a few times actually. Everyone who is rude, buyers who back out, and sellers who break agreements get blocked in my phone so I know not to deal with them again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Only negative experience I have had was I got an offer for my golden tiger (8k Rds) and the guy offered me $100 below my asking price and I said yes. Half an hour later another guy offered my asking price. Felt like a dumbass but I didn't wanna flake after already committing to the first guy so I just prayed he'd cancel but he didn't lol so I sold to him. I listed a nice handguard for $150. Guy offered me $100 plus some steel case .223 and Wildcat .22lr (total value of $15 in ammo). I agreed then a couple hours later a second guy offered $150 for the rail. When I said it was pending sale he offered $160. That deal hurt, a lot.
However I've been on the other end. I was really excited to pick up a nice HK. Seller agreed to meet me the following day (I was at work). Then, when I texted him the next day to set up a time and place to meet he said he sold it to someone else. That has happened to me a few times actually. Everyone who is rude, buyers who back out, and sellers who break agreements get blocked in my phone so I know not to deal with them again.
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Posted: 5/29/2017 10:32:51 AM EDT
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This is pretty much why I never buy stuff used. Individuals can be so fickle or dishonest and I refuse to deal with that. Id rather just pay a few bucks more and deal with an FFL. And I like having a warranty for my guns.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 2:33:48 AM EDT
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Will you take 50% under asking price for the VEPR? What about a straight trade for a full size M&P 40 cal? The stippling was professionally done by me (not to brag). It looks like it spent 3 years in Afghanistan but I've only put like one magazine through it. Let me know how close that is to the actual offers you receive once you start selling. Some of these stories I'm reading are hilarious. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 4:56:17 PM EDT
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I've been trying to sell my M&P .45 on there for about 2 weeks. Not even the scammers are interested
I haven't had one offer and for the money I'm asking I don't
think I'm out of line at all 
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Posted: 9/14/2017 7:49:40 PM EDT
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I've been trying to sell my M&P .45 on there for about 2 weeks. Not even the scammers are interested I haven't had one offer and for the money I'm asking I don't
think I'm out of line at all |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 11:07:24 AM EDT
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Your asking price is way too high. M&Ps are on sale right now and there's a rebate, so if your price is MSRP or $100 less than MSRP, you're priced too high. The rebate currently available gives the buyer extra magazines, a mag charger, cash, a couple boxes of ammo, and other stuff. |
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Posted: 9/21/2017 9:50:14 PM EDT
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I've seen new M&P deals online for $299. They can't give an M&P away right now. It's crazy what thinks are selling for, buy 1k rounds of 5.56 and get 10 P-mags, stuff like that everywhere. My ad only has 66 views. I don't really need the money, I'm just out of space and really don't want to buy another safe.
I guess I'll hang onto it for a while. |
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Posted: 10/16/2017 3:05:29 AM EDT
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Every gun on UGE has had 200 rounds through it.  it's really an interesting phenomena.
"50 seem too unbelievable? 500 too high? I mean 200 seems reasonable." |
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Posted: 10/16/2017 5:27:14 PM EDT
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Well, I didn't think I was out of line at my price, but I guess I was. My ad only has 66 views. I don't really need the money, I'm just out of space and really don't want to buy another safe.
I guess I'll hang onto it for a while. |
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Posted: 10/22/2017 9:19:14 PM EDT
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I've never had trouble selling a gun via KSL or subsequently, UGE.
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Posted: 11/25/2017 9:11:30 PM EDT
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Just happened again. I posted two pistols on UGE and sold them within five minutes.
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Posted: 11/29/2017 4:07:02 PM EDT
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Tyson bought them I'd bet
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Posted: 12/1/2017 11:59:28 AM EDT
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@magilla
Are you the owner of UGE by chance? If you are, why don't you forward the reseller info to ATF? The Utah ATF office is really cool and helpful, they even answer the phone when you call unlike their headquarters that take a 2-5 months to reply to emails. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 2:57:43 PM EDT
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@magilla Are you the owner of UGE by chance? If you are, why don't you forward the reseller info to ATF? The Utah ATF office is really cool and helpful, they even answer the phone when you call unlike their headquarters that take a 2-5 months to reply to emails. Also, we don't have objective proof of him actually doing anything wrong. He could be buying cheap, posting high and trading. Making trades is a different category with different rules. You can sell x guns in x time and not for profit (difficult to prove), but trades are different. So he could just be an asshole operating just inside the law. I'm fairly sure he's tried to low ball the shit out of me several times, but there are other guys that do it too. |
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Posted: 12/1/2017 7:53:24 PM EDT
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I suppose you're right.
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Posted: 12/3/2017 12:36:04 AM EDT
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I'm going to be honest, I'm not sure its the best idea for everyone that uses that site. He probably needs to be caught, but, having a pile of extra scrutiny onto UGE users probably isn't going to work out for those of us that are not using it outside of the law. Not trying to be all tinfoil hat, but I'm guessing they already are surfing the site and probably already have him marked out. At the federal level I'd guess they want a bigger bust out of him, NFA violation or something. Also, we don't have objective proof of him actually doing anything wrong. He could be buying cheap, posting high and trading. Making trades is a different category with different rules. You can sell x guns in x time and not for profit (difficult to prove), but trades are different. So he could just be an asshole operating just inside the law. I'm fairly sure he's tried to low ball the shit out of me several times, but there are other guys that do it too. If anyone needs to get snatched up by the ATF, it's that guy who would post the WTB ad for a Sig Xi pistol every day. Most annoying person on the site, though I haven't seen him post in a few weeks. I hope Mr. Sig seeker isn't a member here. I'll feel kinda bad if so...
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Posted: 12/3/2017 12:44:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agree on all points. And yes, he has offered to "buy" my stuff too. If anyone needs to get snatched up by the ATF, it's that guy who would post the WTB ad for a Sig Xi pistol every day. ]Most annoying person on the site, though I haven't seen him post in a few weeks. I hope Mr. Sig seeker isn't a member here. I'll feel kinda bad if so... |
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Posted: 12/3/2017 3:30:15 AM EDT
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You guys are on there a lot, I take it. I only go there to sell stuff and I only browse ads to see how much other people are selling stuff for to get an idea of what to list mine for.
Do you guys buy a lot of crap there? I don't typically buy anything used because I find that new items tend to be cheaper with a better value. |
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Posted: 12/3/2017 9:29:30 AM EDT
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You guys are on there a lot, I take it. I only go there to sell stuff and I only browse ads to see how much other people are selling stuff for to get an idea of what to list mine for. Do you guys buy a lot of crap there? I don't typically buy anything used because I find that new items tend to be cheaper with a better value. I tend to have a lot of 5-ish minute chunks throughout the day, waiting for inspectors or sitting on a call with a supplier. Its about as probuctive as Facebook, but with the potential for deals. Now I'm keeping an eye out for a cheap B&T TP9, an M1 carbine for my dad or a cheap 104 or 106. They will pop up eventually, and I'll call and make a deal when they do. |
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Posted: 12/3/2017 6:19:28 PM EDT
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^ What he said. It's fun to see what people are selling and I like looking at guns.
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Posted: 12/4/2017 9:39:21 AM EDT
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@magilla Are you the owner of UGE by chance? If you are, why don't you forward the reseller info to ATF? The Utah ATF office is really cool and helpful, they even answer the phone when you call unlike their headquarters that take a 2-5 months to reply to emails.
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Posted: 12/8/2017 1:55:24 PM EDT
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Things are getting serious on UGE.
Wasn't me...I learned the difference between your and you're in first grade.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/8/2017 2:39:07 PM EDT
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LOL that's funny you're right ya know.
 guy must be digging a big whole. I lol'd when I saw that blew coffee all over my monitor
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Posted: 12/8/2017 2:51:00 PM EDT
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Oh, Damn...
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Posted: 12/8/2017 4:11:54 PM EDT
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That guy that got busted was the owner of HKParts.net . Good guy, not sure why he decided to be a dumbass and start selling guns without an FFL though.
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Posted: 12/9/2017 10:09:56 PM EDT
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That guy that got busted was the owner of HKParts.net . Good guy, not sure why he decided to be a dumbass and start selling guns without an FFL though. I personally think they just didn't like Adam and he should have been left alone. |
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Posted: 12/10/2017 2:24:52 AM EDT
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He did a couple back alley deals in parking lots FTF without an FFL. He didn't used to be that way, he used to avoid FTFs altogether, I know because I tried going to his house to pick up an HK91 bolt carrier once and he said no to that and made me pay shipping.
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Posted: 12/18/2017 9:43:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/19/2017 6:00:51 AM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/234446/Screenshot_20171218-184121-394767.JPG What happened here, this dude is mad about something...  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/19/2017 12:51:06 PM EDT
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damn that site brings out the crazies for sure
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Posted: 12/19/2017 10:33:08 PM EDT
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You'd like to think that gun owners would be a cut above the rest. My experience with UGE does not support that view though. Tons of crazies, scammers, welshing scumbags.
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